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[Nocturnowl]

All this design talk reminds me, I don't get why all the new pokemon hate is often focused on inanimate object based pokemon like Garbodor, Vanilluxe and KlinkKlank for being uninspired yet stuff like another 6 monkeys in one generation on top of the previous 7 or 8 monkeys slides past unnoticed, because they're monkeys I guess?

I'll take the bag masked garbage monster and the blizzard twin scoop in an icicle cone over some of the more repeated ideas, seeing Forretress brought up reminds that aren't it and Wormadam both supposed to be Bagworms? no one remembers Wormadam enough to raise a fuss I guess.

 

[NeonZ]

If there was a way to sell every single 3DS in existence at any price then it would be a rainbow game.

I think an actual 3d Pokemon game that dumped to top down view and actually showed the Pokemon world directly for the first time to players would have a much bigger impact than just a better resolution version of the old lands with more 3d models. Add the standard 100+ Pokemon for a new generation and I think that could do very well, much better than attempting a "semi-remake" with a graphical style that likely won't stand out much from the predecessors to mainstream audiences like the Rainbow rumor suggests.

 

[injurai]

If there was a way to sell every single 3DS in existence at any price then it would be a rainbow game.

It's the killer game that the system needs.

However 4 regions is far to ambitious to make an actually good and focused game. It would need to be an mmo or something. People wouldn't buy a new game for a Decade after Rainbow launches.

 

[Boss Doggie]

Are there more Pokemon redesigned to look like they are from different gens? I only know of this:

Why do I get the feeling the person who did this was someone who is a major Gen 1 fan?

 

[Berordn]

I wouldn't call Druddigon plain.

Well, it's jagged because it's got rough skin. It's supposed to look painful to touch. Outside of that, Dragonite is a more complex design than it is.

 

[Sigismundo]

As far as I'm concerned there are good Pokémon and shitty Pokémon in every generation and that is all that matters.

 

[Boss Doggie]

Druddigon sucks because it's a "common dragon". It's no Axew.

 

[Mariolee]

Rainbow makes zero sense. It's a collection of fanboy wishes, not a coherent or sustainable game design.

The chances of this getting leaked is minuscule, anyway.

Screw coherent game design! Coherency isn't what dreams are made of!

 

[injurai]

Screw coherent game design! Coherency isn't what dreams are made of!

i can't argue with that...

 

[Mariolee]

My pipe dream is that every Nintendo developer (First and Second Parties) would design their own Pokemon and they would be part of Gen VI.

 

[Conor 419]

I think an actual 3d Pokemon game that dumped to top down view and introduced another set of 100+ Pokemon would do better than this Rainbow rehash idea...

Like fuck.

Rainbow with unrestricted exploration, online servers and a focus on events and competitions would rock the Pokécommunity so hard.

It's the killer game that the system needs.

However 4 regions is far to ambitious to make an actually good and focused game. It would need to be an mmo or something. People wouldn't buy a new game for a Decade after Rainbow launches.

Unless the game becomes a platform which explands between now and the end of time.

 

[B-Dubs]

Screw coherent game design! Coherency isn't what dreams are made of!

This guy knows what's up!

 

[CorvoSol]

no gen looks that bad...

I dunno, that Gen 4 Mewtwo accurately sums up how I feel about Gen 4's Legendaries.

Like, I don't think designs have gotten worse with each Gen, as Gen 5 has some real cool ones (Vanilluxe, or Darminitan), but Gen 4 was a bad Gen for designs, man. The protagonist dressed like a doofus, and the best Pokemon to come out of that gen was hippopotas.


Gen 4 was a nose dive after 3 and 5 is a show of good faith.

 

[Mariolee]

Like fuck.

Rainbow with unrestricted exploration, online servers and a focus on events and competitions would rock the Pokécommunity so hard.

Exactly. But how would they top it? It's like if Apple released the greatest iPhone they could ever make, what would they do next year? It would be a terribly unstable and irresponsible move business-wise.

But fuck it I want it so badly.

 

[Sandfox]

Gamefreak only making one version would be kinda dumb because they would just be losing money.

 

[Conor 419]

Exactly. But how would they top it? It's like if Apple released the greatest iPhone they could ever make, what would they do next year? It would be a terribly unstable and irresponsible move business-wise.

But fuck it I want it so badly.

Like I said y0, expansions, microtransactions n' shit.

 

[MasterSheen]

So, assuming it is gen 6 for 3DS, do you guys think it will keep sprites, or go 3D?

 

[Kiryu]

 

[Conor 419]

So, assuming it is gen 6 for 3DS, do you guys think it will keep sprites, or go 3D?

I'd prefer they kept sprites tbf...

 

[Ashodin]

There are over 20 new Pokemon, and two will be revealed tomorrow. One is an evolution of an older Pokemon Eevee, called Draconeon.

HOLY SHIT IF TRUE

I will fucking explode in my pants

 

[Carpe Libertatem]

I dunno, that Gen 4 Mewtwo accurately sums up how I feel about Gen 4's Legendaries.

Like, I don't think designs have gotten worse with each Gen, as Gen 5 has some real cool ones (Vanilluxe, or Darminitan), but Gen 4 was a bad Gen for designs, man. The protagonist dressed like a doofus, and the best Pokemon to come out of that gen was hippopotas.


Gen 4 was a nose dive after 3 and 5 is a show of good faith.

There are so many Pokemon in Gen IV that I forget exist. A lot of this probably comes from the fact that Diamond and Pearl are the worst games in the series (Platinum is great though). Even the evolutions of old Pokemon are pretty awful - Rhyperior, Magmorter, etc

 

[NeonZ]

Like fuck.
Rainbow with unrestricted exploration, online servers and a focus on events and competitions would rock the Pokécommunity so hard.

Nothing like that was mentioned by the rumor though. It sounds like it'd be a standard Pokemon game, but with more extra continents and leagues. Really, the rumor suggests that they won't even be adding many new Pokemon compared to past gens nor changing the overworld gameplay, I don't see how it suggests they'd revamp things at all in that direction if they're being so conservative on the "known" aspects according to the rumor. With the way it also avoids overlapping B&W, it sounds more like what we'd see replacing the remakes after Black & White 2 replaced the standard third game than an actual start for a new generation, aside from the new graphical style which sounds as conservative as it could be after switching to 3d models.

FireRed & Greenleaf didn't make the franchise explode to new heights and were beaten by the standard new games sales-wise. I don't see this "Rainbow" doing it either if it turns out to be real. It sounds like one of the worst possible directions they could take the franchise, especially as the first game of a new generation. I don't see how they'd even be able to explore this rumored generation further after that title. It's a dead end. They wouldn't be able to push a remake after it, and a third (second?) title would be just that. With the small amount of new Pokemon, they'd need to push towards next next gen very quickly. It's just a bad move all around.

 

[CorvoSol]

Wouldn't a Dragon Type Eevee be useless, though? I mean, the Fire Type has been useless for over a decade now.

 

[ScraftyDevil]

If--no,when--I wake up tomorrow to find out that this Rainbow poppycock is nothing but malarky, I shall salt my morning homefries with the tears of this board.

 

[Sigismundo]

So, assuming it is gen 6 for 3DS, do you guys think it will keep sprites, or go 3D?

Either extremely high-quality 2D sprites/animation (aka not what we got with Gen 5) or 3D.

 

[JordanN]

So, assuming it is gen 6 for 3DS, do you guys think it will keep sprites, or go 3D?

As I said in the previous thread, Gamefreak has been embracing polygons more and more each game.

So I think all signs point to sprites being on the way out next gen.

 

[Ashodin]

Wouldn't a Dragon Type Eevee be useless, though? I mean, the Fire Type has been useless for over a decade now.

I don't care, I would hug it and love it forever.

 

[Anuxinamoon]

Zombiepocalypse gen VI confirmed!

 

[PK Gaming]

Wouldn't a Dragon Type Eevee be useless, though? I mean, the Fire Type has been useless for over a decade now.

not necessarily

it heavily depends on its stats + moves + ability

 

[injurai]

I dunno, that Gen 4 Mewtwo accurately sums up how I feel about Gen 4's Legendaries.

Like, I don't think designs have gotten worse with each Gen, as Gen 5 has some real cool ones (Vanilluxe, or Darminitan), but Gen 4 was a bad Gen for designs, man. The protagonist dressed like a doofus, and the best Pokemon to come out of that gen was hippopotas.


Gen 4 was a nose dive after 3 and 5 is a show of good faith.

There are indeed bad designs but those where like throwing a fancy car into a body shop to get chrome and flames slapped on it. Different level of integrity of design.

 

[Pachimari]

Are you guys talking about 3D models and objects with the same camera perspective as the past games in the series or a full-fledged 3D adventure like Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D when you say 3D?

 

[Sandfox]

Wouldn't a Dragon Type Eevee be useless, though? I mean, the Fire Type has been useless for over a decade now.

Dragon type is the only one missing from the pattern they were going for.

 

[valeo]

Will just be another Pokemon game. Nothing innovative or new looks like happening.

 

[Berordn]

Wouldn't a Dragon Type Eevee be useless, though? I mean, the Fire Type has been useless for over a decade now.

I'm not really sure if you're making a joke here or not, but monotype Dragon, while not spectacular, isn't really bad. There's a lot of decent choices for both physical and special moves too.

I'm just curious if it'd be allowed to learn other elemental-ish moves like Flamethrower and Thunderbolt since the alternate Eevees exist.

 

[Tagg9]

Are you guys talking about 3D models and objects with the same camera perspective as the past games in the series or a full-fledged 3D adventure like Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D when you say 3D?

Nah, think LttP with 3D models.

 

[Randdalf]

As I said in the previous thread, Gamefreak has been embracing polygons more and more each game.

So I think all signs point to sprites being on the way out next gen.

I think the sprites will play a part somewhere, but not in battles. Or the battle models will greatly resemble the sprites but still be full 3D.

 

[injurai]

Wouldn't a Dragon Type Eevee be useless, though? I mean, the Fire Type has been useless for over a decade now.

I just want that sands of time Eevolution.

 

[Darryl]

Are you guys talking about 3D models and objects with the same camera perspective as the past games in the series or a full-fledged 3D adventure like Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D when you say 3D?

same camera perspective

 

[NeonZ]

Are you guys talking about 3D models and objects with the same camera perspective as the past games in the series or a full-fledged 3D adventure like Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D when you say 3D?

I'm hoping for something like Ocarina of Time, but the Rainbow rumor people are talking about suggests the same old camera perspective.

 

[Gospel]

Are you guys talking about 3D models and objects with the same camera perspective as the past games in the series or a full-fledged 3D adventure like Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D when you say 3D?

The latter. Would be awesome

 

[kittens]

Are you guys talking about 3D models and objects with the same camera perspective as the past games in the series or a full-fledged 3D adventure like Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D when you say 3D?

Full fledged. That's what I want. If it's still going to be top-down, I just want sprites.

 

[DragonKnight]

If--no,when--I wake up tomorrow to find out that this Rainbow poppycock is nothing but malarky, I shall salt my morning homefries with the tears of this board.

I like you.

 

[Smiley90]

I don't think the world in 3d is close, but battles should be doable. Same perspective, 3d attacks will look gorgeous.

 

[CorvoSol]

There are so many Pokemon in Gen IV that I forget exist. A lot of this probably comes from the fact that Diamond and Pearl are the worst games in the series (Platinum is great though). Even the evolutions of old Pokemon are pretty awful - Rhyperior, Magmorter, etc

I don't want to say worst, but the designs really nosedived in 4 for me. I mean, the hell is Dialga even supposed to BE?

I don't care, I would hug it and love it forever.

I'd be cool with one, too, just that everything I once thought was great in Pokemon has been turned on its head by competitive Pokemon battles.

There are indeed bad designs but those where like throwing a fancy car into a body shop to get chrome and flames slapped on it. Different level of integrity of design.

Well, I mean, some Pokemon in Gen 4 could've looked nice under their too many trappings. Like Giratina. It was an interesting Pokemon that had too much going on. And Formes drove me bonkers.

Dragon type is the only one missing from the pattern they were going for.

Aren't they still missing Steel, Rock, Ground, Flying and Bug, though?

I'm not really sure if you're making a joke here or not, but monotype Dragon, while not spectacular, isn't really bad. There's a lot of decent choices for both physical and special moves too.

I'm just curious if it'd be allowed to learn other elemental-ish moves like Flamethrower and Thunderbolt since the alternate Eevees exist.

I guess I'm just to used to dragons getting saddled with flying type.

 

[Hot Coldman]

I want some Dragon Quest VIII type shit.

 

[hiryu64]

GUYS

GUYS

POKEMON PINBALL 3

Spoiler

D

BELIEVE

 

[stktt]

I don't think the world in 3d is close, but battles should be doable. Same perspective, 3d attacks will look gorgeous.

The world is already mostly 3D.

 

[Anuxinamoon]

I'd love a world explore like ni no kuni's done their overworld. I run around that and go, "this could be pokemans!"

That would be the next logical step in 3d, have the camera perspective the same just bring it to life with a non tiled based level design.

 

[zroid]

GUYS

GUYS

POKEMON PINBALL 3

Spoiler

D

BELIEVE

I've said it before, but I would be completely okay with being the "big announcement"

 

[Santiako]

If this is gen 6, what are the chances of getting a Fire/Fighting starter again?