it's cause there is NO information really
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Pokemon Ultra Moon and Ultra Sun for Nintendo 3DS
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it's cause there is NO information really
Seriously, we barely know a damn thing about this right now. It's a bit annoying.
That Damn Kid
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Trojita
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It doesn't seem like Nintendo/GF put in a tiny bit of effort either.
Nintendo fans idea of what constitutes a major release is dramatically lower than anyone else. I would assume you'd call Arms a major release? Let's see how that does.
What exactly do you think Nintendo has learned out of interest?
Well with 3DS it's fine now so we're good
No, I mean proper battle and trade connectivity, not Bank
Because that seems to be online only.
RavageDark
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The problem is, Nintendo is having problems with keeping with the demand for the Switch, to the point that they're competing with Apple for parts.
I'm thinking that TPC/Gamefreak decided to hold off on putting a Pokémon game on the Switch until is at the point where they put the game out and sell an optimal amount of units.
That's my guess anyway.
HawthorneKitty
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coulda put the trailer and the new forms tho
Lionel Richie
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Game Freak is not Nintendo though.
Suzushiiro
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The main difference here is that unlike every single previous Nintendo handheld the Switch has no backwards compatibility. Pokemon's tradition of taking its sweet time moving up to the next generation made sense when the new hardware could play the new release anyway, but when your new platform has no BC and you're in a world where most major releases during a generational transition are cross-gen people are going to be a little harder on the decision to continue to release main-line games of major franchises as last-gen exclusives.
This seems more like a third version rather than a sequel. So I very much doubt the story will be entirely new.
Subtervotion
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I'm guessing this will split the user base? Sun/moon won't be compatible (battles trade) with us/um. Dumb if true.
I don't get it.
Nintendo clearly states "we will continue supporting 3DS through 2017 and beyond"
Nintendo clearly states "we will treat Switch as a successor to WiiU not the 3DS"
but people prefer to trust leakers or to ignore what they say.
why? Neogaf, why do you set yourselves up for disappointment so hard?
Nintendo clearly states "we will continue supporting 3DS through 2017 and beyond"
Nintendo clearly states "we will treat Switch as a successor to WiiU not the 3DS"
but people prefer to trust leakers or to ignore what they say.
why? Neogaf, why do you set yourselves up for disappointment so hard?
The Broken Ska Record
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Where did they say that?
Quoting this just in case ARMs pulls a Splatoon and blows everyone's expectations out of the water
Also, yes, I'd consider it a major release seen as how they've advertised it pretty heavily from that first January conference. I'm not personally interested in it enough to buy, but it is certainly a major release. Not a tentpole title like Zelda, Mario, or Pokemon, however. Those are in leagues of their own.
It wasn't said anywhere, but now that it's mentioned, they had better not split the base like they did with OR/AS and X/Y's new Megas. If you can't use the new forms from Ultra in Standard S/M that will be utterly ridiculous.
Maintenance
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People are so salty right now you could turn the Alola Sea into the Dead Sea.
Subtervotion
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X Y didn't work with ORAS. It looks like they are adding forms and new items. I don't expect them to update sm.
What a bunch of clowns dude, 65 mil? If they had just launched it on the Wii and DS think of the gangbusters they would have made. What a poor business decision smh.
Vital Tundra
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I think people are a bit justified in being a bit negative about this game. From how they put it, it sounds like what Platinum or Emerald was except instead of a 2 year difference it's a year, and now the games are completely 3D which means the amount of different and new content can't be nearly as much as past "3rd" versions. And despite the fact that the 3DS install base is so large, the people who have Switches and plan to get one are looking forward to a mainline Pokemon game regardless. Honestly just a missed opportunity for no Switch version.
Nah. B2W2 was compatible with B1W1. Same with Platinum and DP.
WildEagle18
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So people can say "nintendo is dumb hurr". The trend showed that the 3rd version is kept within the system of whatever generation was release at. People getting mad now are just people that couldn't keep their expectations at bay and rode a baseless hype by EG and now fling shit at GF & Nintendo.
This is true, and it does make the whole thing feel a bit weird to me. I've always played these late releases on the new hardware (which I always get day one) through backwards compatibility, and yeah, while I'm by no means getting rid of my 3DS I've started to view it as one of my "retro" consoles due to the Switch so I've moved on a bit.
I fully prepared myself for a 3DS exclusive release so it's not that big of a deal to me really, but this current situation does feel a little different from stuff like Black and White 2.
Why wouldn't one consider ARMS to be a major release? They're certainly treating it as such.
Okami Haundo
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I'm really curious to see what all they changed with the "Ultra" versions of each game. We saw some details in the trailer and their Facebook post mentions an "alternate" story. Do we think we'll get more details during the Treehouse livestream at E3?
many sins would be forgiven if they just righted this one wrong
The Broken Ska Record
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Oh yeah. I got caught up in all of the hype, I forgot they mentioned new Pokémon.
Jubenhimer
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Port or not, Nintendo is marketing Pokken Tournament DX as a major release. ARMS is already getting positive buzz, and there's Mario Odyssey, Fire Emblem Warriors, and Xenoblade 2. All within the first year of the Switch. This isn't like the Wii U, which launched with rehashed Wii concepts followed by 6 month droughts of nothing. There's plenty of games to play.
As for what Nintendo learned from the Wii U, well you can check out the dedicated thread on that someone linked to earlier, since there's no point in repeating myself and derailing this thread even further.
Maintenance
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Pretty sure that's the plan.
Did people really expect the first "real" Pokemon game on the Switch to be a port?
Why would you even want that really...it just be held back by the 3DS anyway.
This is a bummer for sure but long term it will be better for the first Pokemon game on switch to be a whole new gen and with all the bells and whistles that come from it.
i hope people learn from this and stop taking rumors at face value. Peeps have been blown out by "leaks" far too much and yet every time its the same song and dance of too high expectations and buttmad.
Why would you even want that really...it just be held back by the 3DS anyway.
This is a bummer for sure but long term it will be better for the first Pokemon game on switch to be a whole new gen and with all the bells and whistles that come from it.
i hope people learn from this and stop taking rumors at face value. Peeps have been blown out by "leaks" far too much and yet every time its the same song and dance of too high expectations and buttmad.
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Shrike Alvaron
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This is what you all get for being so deep down the Stars rumor hole you forgot what the word rumor meant and took it as FACT that Stars was a thing. I mean, seriously, seeing merchandise that just happened to have stars on it as a sign that a new Stars game was coming? Do you realize how nutty that was for someone looking in from the outside?
I'm curious to know more about what these new games actually added. Unlike for some apparently just because the Switch is out doesn't mean my 3DS is an unplayable POS so if the changes are interesting enough to warrant a second buy bring it on I say.
I'm curious to know more about what these new games actually added. Unlike for some apparently just because the Switch is out doesn't mean my 3DS is an unplayable POS so if the changes are interesting enough to warrant a second buy bring it on I say.
you know that there is about 300/802 pokemon in sun and moon, expect at least half of the ones missing in these new titles!
SM lacked 6 mon trainers alot for example, so I could see them ramping up the difficulty a bit more!
I'm very happy it's for the 3ds, no rush to pay more for pokemon online then there already is due to bank.
That said, how early was the cross platform mystery dungeon titles releasing, wasnt the blue version for gba and the red for ds?
Why do people keep bringing this up? Clearly people don't care as much as you think they would, they just wanted a Pokemon game for the Switch, and it'd still look better than past entries regardless. 8th gen or a game built from the ground up for the Switch could come later.
I never got the impression that Pokemon fans were that pressed over how the games look. Like obviously yea, people want a console entry and such, but I highly doubt people would prefer waiting for 8th gen as opposed to just getting a game for it now.
Finale Fireworker
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I wish they'd at least given more information. Hopefully they'll start and will drip-feed information like they did with the original SuMo prerelease.
Boss Doggie
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this is "oh please, the switch survived the fall because of air resistance, throw the switch in vacuum" neogaf
Astral Dog
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3DS IS A BEAST!!!!
come on guys don't be fooled so easily
LOL there goes any possible interest I could have had in these games.
Don't count on a Battle Frontier either.
Hmmm. I'll buy it but that's super duper lame. Those new features better be Emerald tier for me to spend any time with the game. Otherwise I'll play through the campaign go 'yeah alola is still neat' and be done.
Neoleo2143
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I mean I'm not particularly concerned about the feature set. I've yet to be let down by a third version pokemon game and they're some of my favorite RPGs ever. Platinum and Emerald are excellent.
War Raichu
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Therein lies my problem with these games. If they were proper sequels or the fabled Diamond/Pearl remakes, I wouldn't mind them being on 3DS. It'd suck, but at least it'd feel different.
It's just lazy as fuck, and the fact that it's coming out a year after the originals just burns even more.
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