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[gamz]

Are XB Mini and Slim the same thing?

Yes

 

[rokkerkory]

Maybe MS will show x1.5 at the european show?

Since neo will not be at E3, makes no sense for MS to talk about it as well.

 

[dead monkey uk]

Are XB Mini and Slim the same thing?

No,

XB Mini sounds like it will be similar to Apple TV it will have limited game support but likely run apps.

XB Slim is a Xbox One around 40-50% smaller than the current Xbox One.

There is also a third device, a streaming stick similar to Roku

 

[WadeitOut]

Easy.

"All of what you see here today will be available on the Xbox Platform in the near future."

Yeah this is verbatim of what Ryan Mc said on Podcast Unlocked. I don't buy it. They know everyone knows their console can't push VR. They won't want to deal with all of this negative speculation for months.

 

[flkraven]

Ok sure, but why buy the Scorpio when the eventual Neo + will be more powerful? But wait! Why buy the Neo + when the MS Cancer will be more powerful? But wait!

This is becoming a vicious cycle.

Not really the same thing. This is basically the perfect excuse for PS4 owners to add an Xbox to their homes. Since the neo is a relatively small leap vs the PS4 in comparison to the rumored Scorpio specs, may as well diversify your household consoles.

 

[dead monkey uk]

Are XB Mini and Slim the same thing?

Yea.

Yes

Maybe I am wrong, but I thought the Mini is the Apple TV like box, see my post above

 

[wachie]

Maybe MS will show x1.5 at the european show?

Since neo will not be at E3, makes no sense for MS to talk about it as well.

Perfect time for Microsoft to get ahead of Sony.

 

[gamz]

No,

XB Mini sounds like it will be similar to Apple TV it will have limited game support but likely run apps.

XB Slim is a Xbox One around 40-50% smaller than the current Xbox One.

There is also a third device, a streaming stick similar to Roku

Going by the podcast the mini and slim are the same device.

 

[Somnia]

Yeah this is verbatim of what Ryan Mc said on Podcast Unlocked. I don't buy it. They know everyone knows their console can't push VR. They won't want to deal with all of this negative speculation for months.

Or how about

"Available soon with the power of Windows 10 and the Xbox Platform"

lol, saying Windows 10 hoping it'll throw people off since Xbox is on Win10

 

[VincentMatts]

Perfect time for Microsoft to get ahead of Sony.

Sony realized they didnt have enough flops and pulled out.

 

[wachie]

Maybe I am wrong, but I thought the Mini is the Apple TV like box, see my post above

Rumored devices are

Xbox Slim (mini, non-fat whatever)
Xbox Stick
Xbox Set-top box
Xbox Scorpio (6 TFlops)

 

[ekim]

There will be no streaming devices at E3.

 

[dead monkey uk]

Going by the podcast the mini and slim are the same device.

Ok, must have misunderstood. There are going to be three new devices this year though (four if you include next years Scorpio)

 

[Mixolydian]

There will be no streaming devices at E3.

If they are real, what's the point of holding them back?

The Scorpio I get, but these?

 

[InsaneTiger]

Not really the same thing. This is basically the perfect excuse for PS4 owners to add an Xbox to their homes. Since the neo is a relatively small leap vs the PS4 in comparison to the rumored Scorpio specs, may as well diversify your household consoles.

Or not. We still lack concrete details and rumored specs can change. We might know more next week.

EDIT: I am trying to say that although we have details from fairly reliable sources we still don't have true confirmation from Sony or MS on the specs.

 

[Footos22]

I guess I just don't understand this mentality. If you jumped to PS4 from 360, one of the primary reasons had to have been that it was the more powerful next gen system. Now there is potential that Scorpio is the more powerful system. Several people were 'arsed' to switch systems this gen.

Likewise, why buy a NEO if the PS4 basically plays all the same games? Wouldn't it make sense to buy the new, more-powerfull Xbox and get access to the exclusives you missed out on? You'd also have access to all your backwards compatible 360 games.

Whynotboth.gif

 

[gamz]

Ok, must have misunderstood. There are going to be three new devices this year though (four if you include next years Scorpio)

He touched on

Mini - Slim
Xbox Stick
Scorps

 

[ekim]

If they are real, what's the point of holding them back?

The Scorpio I get, but these?

I honestly don't think they are real. maybe they were real some time.

 

[Sydle]

Or how about

"Available soon with the power of Windows 10 and the Xbox Platform"

lol, saying Windows 10 hoping it'll throw people off since Xbox is on Win10

It's probably going to be more along the lines of Spencer acknowledging the advances being made in the PC space, specifying things like 4K and VR, and mentioning how he looks forward to bringing those things to the Xbox platform in 2017.

He'll use the word journey at least once.

 

[dead monkey uk]

Rumored devices are

Xbox Slim (mini, non-fat whatever)
Xbox Stick
Xbox Set-top box
Xbox Scorpio (6 TFlops)

Ok thanks thought the Xbox Set-top box was the mini.

Anyone else think the Xbox brand could be getting diluted with the expanded product line.

 

[gamz]

If they are real, what's the point of holding them back?

The Scorpio I get, but these?

Time? That's a lot of hardware and games to cover in 90 min.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

There will be no streaming devices at E3.

Whew... I was worried about this.

 

[dead monkey uk]

There will be no streaming devices at E3.

If they are real, what's the point of holding them back?

The Scorpio I get, but these?

I would not be surprised if the streaming devices are announced in the E3 pre-show or even just a blog post and announcement video.

 

[Mixolydian]

I would not be surprised if the streaming devices are announced in the E3 pre-show or even just a blog post and announcement video.

Yeah. This I would understand. IMO, this makes more sense than coupling it with a Scorpio announcement (doubt they'd want anything taking time or spotlight from that), or having their own separate reveal.

These next 3 days are going to be a slow crawl.

 

[dead monkey uk]

Yeah. This I would understand. IMO, this makes more sense than coupling it with a Scorpio announcement (doubt they'd want anything taking time or spotlight from that), or having their own separate reveal.

These next 3 days are going to be a slow crawl.

I do not think MS will mention the Scorpio this E3, they will announce the Xbox Slim. I just do not see them doing both.

But I am unsure how they will do a VR demo without mentioning the Scorpio. Maybe just an announcement of a partnership with Oculus going forward.

 

[rokkerkory]

I don't think MS will show X1 because they don't have yet a form factor to hold up.

Since it's 1 to 1.5 years away, makes sense to show it next year.

 

[Shaunboy97]

since I wanted to make that joke

You're not really in a position to joke LOL

 

[CCIE]

If the mini has a 4K drive at a decent price as rumored I might be interested. Just for the movies, don't care about 4K for games at this time

 

[WadeitOut]

If the mini has a 4K drive at a decent price as rumored I might be interested. Just for the movies, don't care about 4K for games at this time

The only UHD player on the market is $400. No chance it has a UHD blu Ray drive.

It will probably have 4K playback though.

 

[c0de]

The only UHD player on the market is $400. No chance it has a UHD blu Ray drive.

It will probably have 4K playback though.

So you think the price is so high because of the drive?

 

[ekim]

The only UHD player on the market is $400. No chance it has a UHD blu Ray drive.

It will probably have 4K playback though.

lol

 

[Mixolydian]

The only UHD player on the market is $400. No chance it has a UHD blu Ray drive.

It will probably have 4K playback though.

Or the price is that high because it's the only one on the market. I imagine that any component put into a console (like GPU's) have a lowered cost when purchased in bulk for consoles.

I don't believe your example precludes a drive from being included.

 

[VincentMatts]

Well if Neo wont be there, then revealing Scorpio would be pointless. If im MS, i reveal nothing. No info, no specs, nothing.

 

[WadeitOut]

lol

God dammit.

And no I didn't think the Samsung UHD player cost $400 because of the actual materials. But it's an indicator of where the market is or isn't at the moment.

 

[WadeitOut]

Or the price is that high because it's the only one on the market. I imagine that any component put into a console (like GPU's) have a lowered cost when purchased in bulk for consoles.

I don't believe your example precludes a drive from being included.

Right. But I don't even think internal UHD drives are even on the market yet. Unless this SKU isn't coming out until 2017 it just seems unlikely to me. Especially if this is meant to stay relatively cheap in comparison to the Scorpio.

 

[Samurai G0SU]

If the slim comes out without hdmi in, it'll be less attractive as i use my xbox to switch between cbl/apps/gaming without needing to fiddle with input sources on my avr.

please don't do this. i want to play 4k uhd, 4k content capable apps and use hdmi in for my cbl box.

my 4k tv is ready! more time with my p series is making me love it more and i cant wait to see it at it's full potental.

 

[c0de]

Right. But I don't even think internal UHD drives are even on the market yet. Unless this SKU isn't coming out until 2017 it just seems unlikely to me. Especially if this is meant to stay relatively cheap in comparison to the Scorpio.

apparently there are uhd drives, the player exists. also the specs are not that far away from a usual bd drive so I don't think it's a huge manufacturing problem. and when ordering a huge amount, price should also not be a big factor.

 

[BleedOrange]

Any word on the rumor that the slim would be a slight upgrade from base XB1? In the area of 2TF?

 

[icespide]

You're not really in a position to joke LOL

huh? what does PSVR have to do with me? do you think I work for Sony or something?

 

[Bsigg12]

Any word on the rumor that the slim would be a slight upgrade from base XB1? In the area of 2TF?

It wasn't a rumor, I was just wanting to speculate earlier to see if it would be feasible at all.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Not sure. I just saw him take a grenade right in front of me.

Yea.

Yes

I am definitely interested in a Mini for a Halo/Gears/Forza digital box.

 

[Juanfp]

There is a chance that this new consoles will have a FreeSync/G-Sync type solution?

 

[darkinstinct]

There is a chance that this new consoles will have a FreeSync/G-Sync type solution?

Are there TVs that use that?

 

[jimbobsmells]

Rumored devices are

Xbox Slim (mini, non-fat whatever)
Xbox Stick
Xbox Set-top box
Xbox Scorpio (6 TFlops)

Needs more devices. Because all that's not confusing at all.

 

[MilkyJoe]

Needs more devices. Because all that's not confusing at all.

Not sure if serious.

 

[Ushay]

Needs more devices. Because all that's not confusing at all.

Because MS have never had confusing conferences lol!

Edit above. Yup that's sarcasm indeed.

 

[MilkyJoe]

Because MS have never had confusing conferences lol!

Edit above. Yup that's sarcasm indeed.

I mean how simple do you have to be to be confused by that?

 

[CrazE]

I want to let you down slowly Ford.
It aint going to be there.

Get back from E3 to see Ford banned and you wrong. Interesting!

 

[El_Chino]

Oh boy.

 

[gamz]

This will pump you up!!

http://gamingbolt.com/xbox-one-scorpio-is-us-returning-to-our-roots-says-microsofts-aaron-greenberg

Xbox One Scorpio Is Us Returning To Our Roots

“We’re building a beast,” he said.“It’s gonna be the most powerful console ever made, and as a guy who was here when we built the original Xbox, that being such a powerful box, and we pioneered with Xbox Live, and some of those innovative games, it really feels like we’re getting back to our roots. And I think the team here, we’re all gamers and we love what we do, and I’ve never seen the morale this high. People are fired up about what we’re delivering this year for our fans, and the vision of what we’re doing with Project Scorpio. It’s a pretty special time.”