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Polygon: Xbox Scorpio will be a ~6 TFLOP system (v PS4K's 4.14), unveil soon, Fall 17
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Depends. Hardware like the type described isn't going to be cheap, and Microsoft seem kinda done with just brute-force sinking money into things to win the market.
vpance
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The differences will diminish as consoles get more powerful. It'll come down to res basically.
Sounds pretty fucked up for sure. And it is definitely in line with Phil stating that if they made a jump, it would not be a half-step upgrade, but all the way. Xbox One would be left in the dust by this thing, even while getting the same games.
somecrazymember
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So flops are how the kids are gonna compare the consoles. I miss the bits days
SinCityAssassin
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Either they provide a supplementary device to upgrade the NX like the recent patents show or NX is absolutely a platform that involves iterative upgrades.
Yes. It sounds like from Kotaku and Brad Sams, this hardware won't be announced publicly until early next year.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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No shit. But people thought it was PR talk or him talking about the name lol
so neo in 17 and ps5 in 18 ? are you kidding ?
Arkam
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Totally. Price is ALWAYS king. If MS can do it at the same or lower price than PS4K then it is much more competitive. And that could be exactly why it is coming later. You cannot get more for less. Cost, Quality and time.... to gain in one you must sacrifice another.
I just can't wrap my head around the release date of this thing.
Sony are going to launch the NEO this Fall or early 2017.
That gives the NEO anywhere from 8-12 months on the market completely unchallenged.
MS are ceding way too much market-share to the NEO before launching their own iterative console.
Sony are going to launch the NEO this Fall or early 2017.
That gives the NEO anywhere from 8-12 months on the market completely unchallenged.
MS are ceding way too much market-share to the NEO before launching their own iterative console.
mckmas8808
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It's almost the worst idea I've EVER heard when it comes to a console creator. Only the name "Wii U" has been worst.
Yea they are probably just baiting Sony with this news. Make them panic so they scrap their plans for the Neo and upgrade the 4tflops to 8tflops thinking they upped one over MS again.. But then the twist is that the Scorpio is actually 10tflops. MS edges them out and Phil Spencer gets the last laugh.
paragonpro
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Haha same thought. Ill probably buy whichever one comes first, than wait a year or so to buy the other like I did this gen
Rellik
Member
Probably in an even worse position than they are right now with the Wii U.
Mother of God.
What an entertaining day I swear. It will be incredible to see how they tiptoe around these specs/dates at E3. They have to be very careful what they say and not say so as to not tank Xbox One S sales AND at the same time not create any confusion about Xbox Scorpio.
Maybe a $249 w/ Gears 4 and Cuphead or something similar will keep the XBO S from tanking sales wise.
Neo is this fall, two years past the iteration and five years past the PS4 is exactly right for their next console. 4K and VR will demand it by then.
Coulomb_Barrier
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Probably will be $499. They'll market it as half sort of Windows 10 box (like the Steambox machines), half console.
But if all the games are on PC, WHAT'S THE POINT OF IT!?!?
But if all the games are on PC, WHAT'S THE POINT OF IT!?!?
thehillissilent
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I think Nintendo is setting up NX to be an iterative platform as well. I just hope that their NX portable (downclocked Maxwell/Pascal based Nvidia Tegra)is powerful enough to run XB1 graphics at 960x 540p (Vita resolution).
Maybe they want to see how Sony will fare first? This whole mid gen refresh is new business that might backfire badly. Might as well let the market leader take the first punches.
Why not, sounds like a good plan.
maverick40
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Mass Effect
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lol welp. this is going to be a crazy couple of months.
Yeah, I don't give a shit how powerful it is. I am not buying a new Xbox or PS4 next year. I have not even had Xbox One and PS4 for two years yet.
And that stranglehold would have happened regardless with no updated consoles.
With NEO seemingly launching this year you get people like me jumping at it early. I think MS allowing the NEO to be on the market for a full year does them no favors. You allow that narrative to build and Sony gets people to buy into their ecosystem.
I would assume Scorpio launches around the same time a new Halo does correct? That'll help sales but the PS4 at that point would likely have a 2-1 lead WW.
Seems it bit random number that someone threw off the top of his/her head.
So, how powerful is this?
Oh I don't know. 5-6 TF!
Is there a big difference between targeting 5 TF versus targeting 6 TF. Moreover, wouldn't they go for better price to power ratio compare to PS4K rather than just pure power.
Yup, It's not going to help sales that much if they are leaving the market unchallenged for a year especially if they announce it this summer and wait another year.
Bots are better than you
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Well, they could use the time they've gained in reducing their presence at E³ to keep an eye on how this whole mess of PS4K/Xbox2/Xbox Stream/Xbox TV/whatever plays out and decide wether to potentially update the specs of the console variant to reach a certain range of power similar or slightly below PS4K or to speed up the plans for those rumored SCDs big time.
I'm only half-kidding ... they really should keep an eye on this.
E: If they really plan on having an iterative system through the SCDs as well ... for the LOVE OF GOD please price the darned thing accordingly.
vpance
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Well what can they do if they're already behind? Making it more powerful and announcing it at E3 is their best shot at this point.
CalamityPixel
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I hope it is more powerful, I need the salt!!111
Being serious, it will be interesting to see how developers handle the situation. If true it would be a major powergap between the big threes consoles
Uuuuuuh, you do know that that doesn't make sense.
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Off topic but what the hell happened to Geiss? He looks unwell.
Well as somebody who is dead against mid-gen updates, I can get behind this just to see the salty tears.
thehillissilent
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Panajev2001a
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I think he is showing off his Swift generics skills.
RiccochetJ
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Not everyone has or wants to build a gaming PC.
Netherscourge
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6 TFlops puts you in 4K, 60FPS+ territory.
Impeccable
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Pretty sad to be honest.
This power war is just further pushing me back to PC. So, thanks Sony and MS!
Thinking 'Damn, we should have focused on replacing the 3DS first like every sane individual suggested we do. Whoops! Here, look at these scrolling shoulder buttons! They will revolutionise gaming!'
facetheslayer92
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I wish there were more people like you
Nintendo should just combine with Microsoft. Continue with their handheld, which works solo as well as with the XBox as a controller and add on, and games for both.
How could it not be good for both?
Darth Smurf X
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But what about Kinect? Will that also be 6x more powerful? 12x? 193x?