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Project Cafe Rumor Cafe [Weinerpoop Post 7513]
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Testicular Sound Express
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what does that have to do with this year :|. They are announcing a new console this year and this is what Microsoft presented? This was a big faux pas imo.dwu8991 said:
herzogzwei1989
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Got to keep my hype levels in check for Nintendo's conference, but cannot help but think Iwata and Reggie will drop some bombs tomorrow.
AbsoluteZero
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I've entered that phase where I'm excited to see new hardware from Nintendo but I'm not looking forward to the Wii being replaced.
Dark Schala
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0.5/10 for effort. At least there weren't any spelling or capitalization errors.dwu8991 said:
My gut feeling now is we will see a rebranding again of Nintendo tomorrow. A move away from motion controls, but not sure how far back to conventional gaming it will go. I think more of a half and half mix, but there will be a new interface effectively to replace the accessibility of motion controls. Built from touch most likely from the rumours.
Wii will stay branded as the motion control platform. You will have backwards compatibility with it, and some Cafe games may support the wiimote as an option. But the focus will be something new.
The over-riding message that came out of Microsoft's conference is that motion controls are already played-out, that nearly everything that can be done has been done, and Nintendo are probably more aware of that than anyone.
Wii will stay branded as the motion control platform. You will have backwards compatibility with it, and some Cafe games may support the wiimote as an option. But the focus will be something new.
The over-riding message that came out of Microsoft's conference is that motion controls are already played-out, that nearly everything that can be done has been done, and Nintendo are probably more aware of that than anyone.
I haven't played the with Sony's Move, but I think that something like the Wiimote with substantially better tech (both on the side of the console and controller) could have tons of untapped potential.DECK'ARD said:
Kinect as the way it's being used looks like a dead end street, though.
I would like to see if augmented reality could revolutionize games like D&D, but that would require a setup unlike anything going on with Kinect.
canadian crowe
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DECK'ARD said:
That sounds perfect. The best thing for me would basically be a Gamecube 2. I'm a single console gamer, and I would love graphics comparable to the other systems and enough third party mutliplatform games to not feel shafted.
canadian crowe
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Trurl said:
True. I think that they build up their brand again with the Wii, and they could have a successful traditional console this time around.
The tech is really holding them back though. It was a great idea to make the Wii standard def, but it was short sighted.
There is no reason why they can't market to the hardcore and casual crowds. Nintendo has brand recognition that both casuals and hardcore gamers like.
StickSoldier
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Microsoft's conference was so damn boring. It's like all they know how to create are shooting games. I'm just ready for Nintendo's conference.
Try and keep the console cycle going by redefining the core experience every 5 or 6 years...DECK'ARD said:
Very curious to see this thing and hear what they have to say about it. I'll miss the pointer something fierce if it's gone, but a touch-pad will work pretty-well as a supplementary controller for a console.
Trurl said:
That's why I think the touchscreen element is going to end up being a lot more key to things than say talk of streaming and whatnot. I think the interface the Cafe is going to have is going to be the bit that replaces motion controls. The bit that makes it accessible and fresh.
With Nintendo it's hard to predict, because the way they apply technology is always the key bit. Like with StreetPass and PlayCoins etc. But I think we're going to see something a bit more unique than emulating the DS.
Off top of my head, things like flinging something from controller to television with a swipe, or even from one controller to another if you chose players according to how you were sitting. Passing something to the player's controller next to you, who then did something with it. That would be quite a nice social aspect, and playing on board game mentality etc.
StickSoldier said:
Yeah, one Nintnedo's advantages is that they have a variety of first party games of various genres.
Even though Super Mario Bros, Mario Kart, and Paper Mario all star Mario, they are different games from different genres. I'd prefer a variety of games starring the same character than a single type of game starring a variety of characters.
Dreamwriter
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That was all due to management, however. N64 was cartridge based, Gamecube came a year late letting PS2 get a head start (and btw, I don't consider 2 systems in a row a trend).Trurl said:
CoffeeJanitor
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Kinect isn't exactly the best option for motion control in games. There's a reason Nintendo didn't go in that direction.DECK'ARD said:
BlackNMild2k1
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J-Rock said:
The problem I see is that if you take the Blue Ocean and mix it with the Red Ocean, don't you end up with a Brown Ocean?
Is that why Nintendo will deliver us the Weinerpoop?
Dreamwriter
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I doubt they'll do a price drop before finding out what Zelda and the e-Store do for sales.Trurl said:
Deadly Joker
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After Microsoft's abortion this afternoon, I can't wait to see what Nintendo has in store.
Nintendo. Believe.
Nintendo. Believe.
GreenMonkey
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dwu8991 said:
Based on the beta, I'll be playing nothing else every night when I'm not working with my buddies, for months. Since we still play Gears 1 a few times a week...
One shiny sequel doesn't matter that much, though. Get real.
CoffeeJanitor said:
Well yeah, Kinect was fatally flawed from conception just like EyeToy because of the control options you are losing in the process. But it's not just Kinect that's already played-out, it's the whole sight of people flailing around which has been what has defined this generation for the last 5 years. Everyone's too over-familiar with it now, and what to expect from the experience. It's questionable how much mileage is left in it, even in more fully featured implementations like WM+ and Move.
If you are trying to keep a console fresh, at a time when they are under increasing pressure from portable entertainment, I think Nintendo are going to try and put a new spin on what console gaming is again.
And the Wii which is synonymous with motion gaming will still be around, and backwards compatibility will keep that aspect as well as any Cafe games which want to support it.
Cafe will still leverage the social aspect, which is what defines Nintendo's consoles, but do so in a new way and have a new interface to appeal to people all over again. That would be my betting now anyway.
Father_Brain
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DECK'ARD said:
Kinect's current sales do little to support the notion that motion control is a fad that's run its course.
Chet Rippo
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NSQuote said:Iwata is Moses?
CoffeeJanitor
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I agree they'll take a different direction because of MS/Sony's new focus on motion, although I don't see Nintendo abandoning them. The Wii caused a paradigm shift in the market, specifically because of it's controls.DECK'ARD said:
Because of this, I can't see any reason why Motion Controls wouldn't become a standard with all forthcoming controllers. In the same way that the dpad, shoulder buttons, analog, rumble etc. have been implemented in all of Nintendo's latest controllers, i think motion controls will be included with the Cafe controller. I'm not sure how, but they will certainly be included.
Not to mention the inclusion of motion controls on i-devices. They are simply to be expected now, just as those other controller conventions are.
Mr. B Natural
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Oprah did it first with bees.Medalion said:
Always-honest
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oh i hope so!!!! Why, did anyone say that it wasn't?NSQuote said:
Cow Mengde
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NSQuote said:
Actually, how about Pikimin 3 coming to BOTH Cafe and Wii? Nothing wrong with sharing a little Pikimin love across Nintendo's own consoles.
CoffeeJanitor said:
Gyros and stuff will be bolted in, but I think full-on motion controls will be left to backwards compatibility with the wiimote.
If this controller is going to be what it's rumoured to be, it will be because it supplies a new interface/way of playing and it's that which will define the system. They could bundle in a wiimote as well, but I don't see them splitting the angle of the system like that.
I think it's how they will use touch that is going to be interesting, and maybe how the controllers are used in relation to each other will be as important as how they are used in relation to the system.
How Nintendo apply technology is always the most interesting aspect, rather than the technology itself. Certainly going to be the most interesting console unveiling in a long, long time anyway.
canadian crowe
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I'm far too hyped. In my head I've already bought the console, and am playing a new Metroid Prime. I've also thrown all my old consoles and my 360 in the garbage, because I won't need anything else.
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