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Ready at Dawn (TO 1886) self-publishing its games, hires Paul Sams (Blizzard) as CEO
- Thread starter shinobi602
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You mean buys them? Seems like they want to be independent from the interview.
jmaine_ph
Member
I know that. Which means they can give it to anyone to make a sequel including RAD.
Interfectum
Member
Bigger news here is Paul Sams left Blizzard.
...what?
Nightengale
Member
Weesuriya seems really attached to the Order IP, so much so that I'm wondering if one of those two IPs is the equivalent of Dark Souls to Demon's Souls, but for The Order instead.
SerTapTap
Member
This is...odd. not entirely sure if it's a positive development or not, a bit antsy on the "transmedia" idea. Worked for .Hack, but generally you want a good start in one media form before you try and branch out. Also, not sure how they're planning to make something on par with The Order without a publisher. No way they could have done that without Sony/similar funding it.
1.21Gigawatts
Banned
Thing is that The Order felt like it turned out exactly like the developers wanted.
Their vision just wasn't fun.
Its a shame.
I thought a prequel in Egypt under the British Empire could have been something. Fighting mummies, seeing pyramids.
Cardon
Member
This sums up my thoughts on the matter as well. Enjoyed The Order myself despite the issues it had, and it's clear that RAD has tons of talent that just needs to be tapped further.
Ultimately, I just hope that this newest direction RAD is taking doesn't end up similar to that of Lightbox Interactive (Warhawk peeps/Starhawk dev team) in that they do one project and kinda fade away after that.
Nightengale
Member
I agree.
But a good developer can admit they're wrong, and fix it instead of bulldozing through their 'vision.'
It's normally Sony going after Microsoft's rejects, not the other way around.
So, you realize a poor game that looks really pretty but was highly flawed in almost every other way. Then you announce you are going to self publish your own games now. I am not sure if I am supposed to be impressed or...? Sounds like Sony said to go kick rocks. The Order was so bad they are trying to give away collectors editions of the game with PS4s at amazon.
Would have more impact if they had a game to announce or anything to wash the taste of their last game out of ours mouths.
Would have more impact if they had a game to announce or anything to wash the taste of their last game out of ours mouths.
If it happens it isn't coming from RaD.
It's true. I was looking forward to that The Order live action mini-series I was always daydreaming about.
What type of thing? I don't think the developers mind too much seeing as how they have SO MANY of them. Sony is definitely the ones who had final call on The Order 2.
Ehhhhh. No? Does MGSV count?
I think Sony is the one in control here. And decided not to continue business with RAD.
The Order 1886 will be a good $3 pickup in the bargain bin at the end of the generation.
That would require big budget investment.
They should hope that Amazon snaps them up and adds them to their army of game developers.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
More likely, being a expensive flop that it was, it'll probably just sit in obscurity forever like Lair
pls no
lol what type of thing?
I made a separate thread about the platform thing here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1059049
Ah, okay. I wasn't bothered either way, it was just out of interest whether it could've been a motive.
so...The Order will stay PS4 exclusive, right? But their next projects will be published directly, without the need to get Sony behind, so they would probably be multiplatform, right? What that unannonced platform could be? I can't believe that RaD was able to get access to NX Nintendo assest so early, so maybe the Google platform?
StoppedInTracks
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SerTapTap
Member
I don't really see why. If the order was a failure and they don't want to make any more...owning the studio would do 'em no good. They'd own the engine which is pretty nice, but that's about it. If they want to make a second Order they own the IP and can still contract RAD if they want to and RAD agrees.
And if they want to make The Order 2 and RAD doesn't want to, I'm sure they can find someone else to. Guerilla Cambridge maybe?
Android TV is announced. I kind of assume they mean "platform we're not announcing yet" rather than "platform that is not announced at all"
Back in July 2014 Ready at Dawn said..
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/the-order-1886-dev-says-ps4-the-only-console-that-/1100-6421270/
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/the-order-1886-dev-says-ps4-the-only-console-that-/1100-6421270/
1.21Gigawatts
Banned
"Transmedia IP" doesn't sound like they're admitting they're wrong.
RPGCrazied
Member
Really, when did this happen? First Greg Street, then Rob Pardo and now Paul Sams? Dark times at Blizzard I guess.
graywolf323
Member
wouldn't be the first time they've done so, hopefully it works out better for them this time
Doug Heffernan
Member
Why would they? They already lost out on Sunset Overdrive because of their IP ownership policy, now it appears they've lost out on Ready At Dawn's next IP.
But hey, if that's their policy and it's still working for them, then more power to them. Some developers do like it when the publisher owns and handles the IP (Platinum being the best example of this). But it seems more often then not, devs want to control the IP they've poured hours of hard work into, can you blame them?
wapplew
Member
Warcraft 4 dream is dead...
3rdamention
Member
Didn't really think of that. The Order could potentially be interesting if they got somebody who develops games to work on it.
I'm sure Cambridge is doing something with Killzone
I think you are reading too much into it.
Interfectum
Member
I guess it just happened now. He hasn't even updated his Twitter account yet (Leader of Blizzard Entertainment's global business and operations).
Nightengale
Member
Er... the reading between the lines here is that Sony chose to not pursue an Order sequel, and by extension, any new project from RAD.
Didn't Sunset Overdrive bomb? And they still have Insomniac working on Ratchet so *shrugs*.
Not sure why everyone is jumping to the TO:1886 sequel being canceled based on this news. That's quite a leap.
RaD was never part of Sony WWS and could have self published (or chose different publishers) for anything/whatever they wanted. They're in a position now to do that. That's literally all I'm getting out of this article.
The parallel here is Insomniac.
RaD was never part of Sony WWS and could have self published (or chose different publishers) for anything/whatever they wanted. They're in a position now to do that. That's literally all I'm getting out of this article.
The parallel here is Insomniac.
uncleniccius
Member
It wasn't amazing, but the setting and story of The Order were super interesting
Aceofspades
Banned
Hope the best for RAD, I have enjoyed the order alot, it seems like people wanted it to be something else.
Im waiting to anything they put on PS4.
Im waiting to anything they put on PS4.
SerTapTap
Member
You're making it sound like publishing deals that don't require IP ownership are a lot more common than they really are. Xbone bought-exclusives are really the only major examples I can think of here, outside of much smaller projects like Sony's Pubfund. Most publishers still want IP ownership and I'm not really all that convinced that MS's strategy is a particularly great idea for either party either.
Hell even Bloodstained's IP is owned by a publisher. No one likes to talk about that.