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Resident Evil 2 Remake Confirmed [WE DO IT!]
- Thread starter Broken Joystick
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This is a good point actually and if they set up a new team for this and gain the proper experience with REmake 2, they could basically be making classic (much cheaper to make) style REs and the post-RE4 style action games side by side.
The classic style may not sell as much as the action games but is a guaranteed million seller nonetheless.
For me, it felt like a step backwards compared to 3. No dodge (for better or worse; I liked it), ammo crafting, Nemesis-style encounters. The dual-wielding didn't do anything for me at all. Also, I didn't like the detached Rockfort Island setting; I find RE at its best when it takes place in more familiar, domestic locales. I always prefer running through Raccoon City or the Spencer Mansion as opposed to the labs/industrial rooms you usually wind up in at the end of the games.
Still a competent game, just my least favorite of the old-style REs sans Zero, which I've yet to play.
Totally agree.
BotchPoppaPump
Member
supernormal
Member
Well that's definitely one of the big reasons I didn't like it. The environments were a huge step down.
It's where the series started to jump the shark.
Kung fu, computer controlled hunters, cross dressing antagonists, Steve hulk (and the hammy love story), giant zombie tenticles, sentient bioweapons.
Personally I liked it when it was less out there and a little more grounded in believability (simple animalistic and viral bioweapons)
Also why I wasn't a fan of RE0s plot.
Links_fantasy
Junior Member
This is my favorite RE and I hope a remake sets the standard and allows Capcom to go back to the survival Horror tone that the series was renowned for.
Neff
Member
The larger the budget, the more hours of entertainment publishers insist on offering players. This was pretty much the universal mantra of games development last gen.
Shmuppers
Member
Enemy designs
badcrumble
Member
Extremely poor game design compared to 2 and 3, extraordinarily awful gimmicky boss fights, uninteresting environments/enemies, story jumping the shark once and for all
Aggelos
Member
Ya man, the original Biohazard 2 & 3 OSTs were lacking the power of a real-actual orchestra. But when this baby came out, it made justice to them.
http://vgmdb.net/album/1226
After that one, I was hoping the Capcom would do a follow-up with Biohazard Code Veronica music, and they did it unofficially (Biohazard Orchestral Album Part 2 never came out).
http://vgmdb.net/album/16040
http://vgmdb.net/album/12454
JimmyJones
Banned
Apart from all this, it was still old school tank controls resident evil that we love.
I never thought about this... Oh shit.
JimmyJones
Banned
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Caffeine
Member
yup the environments sucked.
Bigtime. Was never a fan of CV.
Red Blaster
Member
again
sources
you literally made a post about how no one knows what remake's production budget was but you could somehow infer that it was more expensive than usual for an 8-10 hour game
What if Nemesis had been a side game and Code Veronica had been 3 as originally intended? I feel like that would have altered some of that idea of what typical RE would be, since you'd have 1 2 3 and 4 as these very different locations and tones and each one would feel very distinct. I dunno, just a random thought.
Remakes of 3 and CV would be great, though.
Hopefully a CV remake would have really creative art design to bring it up to the standards of the other remakes.
Neff
Member
again
nobody knows
It's literal speculation from a decade of community discussion based on the two-year development cycle, the size of the team, vague comments from Capcom, the fact that prerendered games are generally costlier than the norm due to lack of recycled assets, the fact that Mikami made the decision to make a much longer, asset-friendly successor with RE4, and Capcom's disappointment with REmake's sales.
Or you can play the game and realise very quickly that it wasn't cheap, unless you have unrealistic expectations of games development.
A lot of people felt it was the point where the storyline started to veer into anime territory (I'd give that award to RE0 myself, but anyway), the backtracking could really screw you over if you didn't take the right items with you, it's generally slower-paced and fetch-y than the PSX games, and you could break your save at a couple of points if you were low on resources. It also aged visually very quickly imo. While it was stunning on Dreamcast, it wasn't much of a looker when put next to DMC or MGS2.
All of that said, it's still a great game imo, and I think it has some of the best environment design in the series.
I knew the Chris segment was coming, but I did and still do think the way the explosions/ice melting changes the geography of the Island/Arctic base for each scenario is genius. I wish they'd do something like that in RE again.
Death Metalist
Member
I didn't expect many people hating on CV. It's clearly not up to par with the first 3 but I'd still rather play it than RE4 because it has that classic gameplay. I loved it but not as much as the first 3 of course and the environments range from good to great,I felt it was quite varied.
What I enjoyed most about it is that just when you thought you finished the game,
I replayed it months ago on 360 and dug my time with it. Only thing I hated was Wesker because this is where he started turning super Saiyan. The soundtrack is great as well. Bosses are average though.
What I enjoyed most about it is that just when you thought you finished the game,
it's actually the second half starting with Chris and while you go through familiar environments, it's still different because of the changes done by the explosion which is funny because all that explosion and most of the things were still intact, lol.
ArkkAngel007
Member
I know this will likely come off as nitpicky to a lot of folks, but I hated the direction it went with the story. Nemesis with his rocket launcher was one thing since that was in-line with the goals of Umbrella and the development of their B.O.W. programs. Alexia
chucking balls of fire
telepathic communication with other T-Veronica subjects
Other than that, it's been too long to remember from a gameplay/design standpoint on where it fell short. It's not a game I dislike, but it's below the first 3 and some of the modern installments.
tintin1029
Member
I hope we get Paul Mercier Leon (RE4/DC) and not Matthew Mercer Leon (RE6)
RE 6 Leon is still cool, he's just not nearly as cool as "No Thanks Bro" Leon
RE 6 Leon is still cool, he's just not nearly as cool as "No Thanks Bro" Leon
Christopher
Member
Can't they remake 3 as well while their at it since it uses 40% same assets?
TheGreatDirector
Banned
They'll probably wait to see the sales of this before moving forward with anymore remakes. Most likely they will though.
Listening to REmake's 1 OST, it was very different from the original (But also seems like the benchmark that future RE titles followed).
Despite RE2 having one of the more memorable OSTs, are they going to take the REmake approach and trying to make these tracks super creepy? I'd imagine we'll get an orchestra for, at least 2-3 songs but for those not so broad moments, how different is it going to be? How similar is it going to be to RE2? Hell, could the direction be similar to REmake 1's approach?
Shit, we don't even know what the art direction is going to be. Will they go for the Spencer approach for the entire precinct or maybe try to go for a sterile look like it was in 1.5? RE0 only gave us a hint of that with the lab.
And me too. The higher ups have made terrible mistakes, but the development teams are very talented, and also i'll have to say that lately the company is taking the right direction.
Also, good work to anyone who was vocal about REmake 2. We certainly did it.
Chromium.Wings
Member
I don't get where this claim comes from. RE3 has literally only eleven shared rooms with RE2, and that's about it for overlap. I don't know if any zombie models overlap, I don't think any do. Only the grenade launcher overlaps for weapons. Only one key item overlaps (STARS key), and ammo boxes share assets. And that's it.
IAmRandom31
Banned
Hopefully they turn it into a FPS. That whole third person shooter stuff is so tired and archaic.
But FPS, those never get old. Not enough of em if you ask me!
But in all seriousness, cool to hear. RE2 was definitely the best of the bunch besides RE4 Mercenary mode ... which wasn't survival horror at all just an awesome and fun mode.
But FPS, those never get old. Not enough of em if you ask me!
But in all seriousness, cool to hear. RE2 was definitely the best of the bunch besides RE4 Mercenary mode ... which wasn't survival horror at all just an awesome and fun mode.
MrCunningham
Member
Yeah, put me in with the CV crowd. I enjoyed it as well on the Dreamcast. I honestly enjoyed playing the game in FP view mode.
Heh, maybe they could make it like Code Veronica? Polygon environments with fixed camera angles, then add a first person mode as a secondary feature.
TheSpaceBetween
Member
Nope we need RE2 voice actor Leon, and Dicaprio haircut and all.
ArchedThunder
Banned
Oh boy!
Neff
Member
RE3 and RE2 don't share even close to 40% assets. It's probably not even 10%.
Lee Chaolan
Member
Outbreak remake next, please.
Mainly because it would work so well with PSN and Xbox Live now, and a lot of people missed it on the PS2 with no hard drive, and lack of good online.
It's a fun game with it's own neat story, even if it's not really canon. Great characters, and a ton of fun online.
Mainly because it would work so well with PSN and Xbox Live now, and a lot of people missed it on the PS2 with no hard drive, and lack of good online.
It's a fun game with it's own neat story, even if it's not really canon. Great characters, and a ton of fun online.
Steve... and the constant backtracking was awful even for a Resident Evil game.
Nonetheless, it was my first survival horror game on my Dreamcast, so I look upon it fondly with nostalgia.
badcrumble
Member
CV was never intended to be RE3. Ask News Bot.
Shadowplay1979
Member
spoiler alert: will get canceled 6 months into development..but dont worry we will eventually get Resident Evil Legacy containing all 6 games
JimmyRustler
Member
What? Back in 2000 the backgrounds were amazing.... They haven't hold up well obviously.... But back in the days... The game looked great. I was raging crazy when they announced it for Dreamcast only.
Caffeine
Member
kinda funny nemesis was supposed to be a spin off but was reworked into a main game, but code veronica was originally just a exclusive dreamcast venture (side game) which yes later was ported to many platforms.
http://www.vg247.com/2012/03/15/resident-evil-3-nemesis-began-life-as-a-spin-off/
JimmyRustler
Member
I don't get why everyone is drooling for Kamiya to come back when it's known that he doesn't like horror games and didn't even like making RE2. Also it was greatly thanks to Mikami that it even ended up being like it was. Mikamis absence is a big loss, but then again his name alone doesn't warrant quality as we've seen with TEW.
The team only has to focus on the series strengths and this well turn out well.
MrCunningham
Member
Well the game was partially developed by Sega themselves. Which is why it was a Dreamcast exclusive. But the environments did look nice for a DC game and it was rendered at 480p. The pre-rendered BG's in the PS1 game were something like 320x240.
RE2's environments are very closed-in and small, so it wold be easy to make some really high detail real time environments. Though pre-rendered enviroments at 2k, 3k or 4k would be amazing too.
Sevket-Erhat
Member
Agreed. If Mikami was great why The Evil Within sucked?
Dark_castle
Junior Member
Can a mod step in and edit the 'do' to 'did' in the thread title?
DodgyTaZombie
Member
Because Bethesda basically twisted his arm into making a game he didn't really wanna make probably has something to do with it.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
I loved Evil Within. It's a big love it/hate it game.
It's intentional, in the announcement video for REmake 2 that's in the OP (and on the official RE YouTube channel) the guy announcing the game is wearing a T-Shirt that reads, "WE DO IT!".
It's intentional, in the announcement video for REmake 2 that's in the OP (and on the official RE YouTube channel) the guy announcing the game is wearing a T-Shirt that reads, "WE DO IT!".
Phoenix Fang
Banned
Except it doesn't but God Hand on the other hand, good Lord that's an abomination.
It was an oops moment. Every great director is allowed to have at least one oops moment, right?
PensivePen
Member
Watch the video.