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[darkwing]

"Confirmation" is when become official. Now is just rumor.

there will never be an "official" confirmation after sometime the game releases on the xbone because of the NDA, how are you going to drive the console sales when people know the game will still be coming out several months after

 

[allan-bh]

Nice spin, seems appropriate. Still haven't answered my question, though.

Spin? Is just a fact. And I like shinobi, but the info is just rumor.

 

[Leafhopper]

OK so we can agree that it's not really the same situation, then, right?

Right.

 

[omonimo]

Reactions of angry videogames fanboys online doesn't equal reality.

Tell us more please about the reality. MS will be loved for this move in the 'reality', right?

 

[LiK]

That's confirmation!?

Wasn't he banned for spewing nonsense and fud about ms?

He's still here and mods changed thread title to reflect his comment

 

[Syrus]

Gahahhababa. This thread is fantastic! Stay classy GAF

 

[BONDO]

As an owner of both consoles this is pretty pathetic.
I would have picked it up on PS4...also considering how fast a definitive edition came out i may actually hold off for that now.

 

[ProvenDeadly]

Someone enlighten me on how this affects MS image. It clearly hurts CD, but MS did what any company would do.

 

[HighResTomato]

Nice spin, seems appropriate. Still haven't answered my question, though.

That's not a spin. Confirmation IS when either MS or SE provide an official response.

 

[SummitAve]

Apparently I've seriously underestimated the hunger for a tomb raider game.

 

[Cave Johnson]

So this is what MS meant by the "power of the cloud". Clouding potential platforms from playing the game. Dammit!!

 

[spannicus]

I bought TRE in PS4, but if it was going up against Uncharted next holiday, it would get a pass from me until 2016 anyway so I hardly feel burned by this as a PS4 only owner. This is probably in SE's best interest anyway. Seriously, what PS4 owners would pick TR over Uncharted? If they got a lot of money from MS, good for them, but I think their best bet on PS4 was to get out of U4's way anyway.

Sounds reasonable.

 

[diaspora]

Lead Game Designer on Uncharted 4

I dislike the exclusivity of this game, but that's a dumbass tweet. We'll never see Uncharted running on an R9 290 either, but so what?

 

[MonsterHunter]

Betrayalton

 

[And_Gignac]

Hurt the growth? They just fucked this franchise. They cut the audience down to a third of what it might have been.

Is a timed exclusive isn't? People will just buy it once it hits pc and ps4. Unless the game/franchise gets tainted by the ongoing backlash.

 

[LNBL]

Lead Game Designer on Uncharted 4

Never? I think that was based on information he saw in the conference. But the power of PS4 made me laugh, i'll enjoy the story just as much on XB1.

 

[Pillville]

I understand being upset at CD

But I don't at MS


MS wants to beat Sony, sorry that they are not considering Playstation fans when they spend money.

MS literally spent money just to take a game away from Playstation.
I can see spending money on an exclusive, but this is spending just to prevent versions from releasing.

 

[jbttwin]

Lead Game Designer on Uncharted 4

Preach!

 

[A_Gorilla]

In fact they did...

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/06/microsoft-defends-the-xbox-ones-licensing-used-game-policies/

I recall similar sentiments regarding windows 8 as well...

 

[Chobel]

Phil Spencer about this deal

Speaking to CVG at Gamescom, Phil Spencer said the partnership will allow developer Crystal Dynamics to achieve its ambitions for the title, while Microsoft has secured a high profile game that fits well within its 2015 line-up.

LOL!!!

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/473920/tomb-raider-exclusivity-a-win-win-says-xbox-boss/

 

[PsihoPerihelion]

Gee whiz, unless Squenix doesn't want to fund this or something, I see no reason at all to make this game exclusive to one platform. Everyone calling them scared of Uncharted, c'mon. TR lifetime sales are superior to any of the UC titles. This is bullshit.

CBOAT

He said "timedd," not timed. I on t think it conts as exlusiv

Yep, this has done more harm than good, and the game isn't even out for over a year, so the negativity will continue.

Someone really needs to tell them this is not how you do it. They NEED to start investing in some of their own studios and create NEW, original franchises that we all can enjoy. So that you get the impression that MS is bringing something to the gaming landscape that isn't Halo, Forza, Fable and Gears.

They haven't done it in 2 generations, so why now? Every single time Xbox announces a new studio, something weird happens. Black Tusk? Oh, they are doing Gears now. Where the hell is Lift London and BigPark? I was 360 only last gen and I learned my lesson big time.

What brand was it always associated with? Which brand has received all other big name TR titles? This is pathetic.

I never associated the brand with PS. To each is own and relax, dude. You seem to be swimming on a sea of salt or something.

 

[Hyun Sai]

Key word is think. Which maybe the case but not enough to keep changing the thread title to make it seem other wise.

Yeah, that is the problem. With the current thread title, it appears as "official" when it is only speculation. Not sure if I'm ok with that especially on Neogaf. A (rumor) would be enough.

 

[DidntKnowJack]

Each console has their exclusives, there is nothing special here. So what if it's an exclusive you wanted that won't be available on your console. Am I supposed to cry and cause an uproar every time Sony announces an exclusive game on their console? This is getting beyond pathetic! Maybe I should go and complain that they are taking people's rights away by releasing Bloodborne only on PS4. All of those people who played Dark Souls on PC are being denied their rights!

The only exclusive games Sony announces are titles they're working on themselves. Or at least contributing to. All MS is doing is throwing money around. They aren't creating dick.

 

[Jhn]

I personally want to thank Microsoft. They've helped pass the time until the next conference begins.

You and me both. This drama has just made the time fly.

 

[bananafactory]

Each console has their exclusives, there is nothing special here. So what if it's an exclusive you wanted that won't be available on your console. Am I supposed to cry and cause an uproar every time Sony announces an exclusive game on their console? This is getting beyond pathetic! Maybe I should go and complain that they are taking people's rights away by releasing Bloodborne only on PS4. All of those people who played Dark Souls on PC are being denied their rights!

This is different because Bloodborne is a new IP that's being worked on by one of Sony's first party studios (Japan Studio) in collaboration with FROM.

Tomb Raider is an existing IP by a third party that released a previous iteration on all platforms, then suddenly and inexplicably locked itself to one system.

 

[Rozart]

Game Informer's Andy McNamara seems to be getting reports that it's timed as well

Much Ado About Nothing: The Story Of The Rise Of The Tomb Raider (Exclusive to XBox, Holiday 2015)

Well well well.

76 pages is" only a handful"?

Eh, sure the fans were upset (and if you think the outrage is just limited to GAF you're sadly mistaken). But people were also trying to get to the bottom of the matter-- how exclusive was this game's exclusive.i.e. Timed?, Forever?, Mass Effect-esque exclusive? Then, you have CD's tumblr post, followed by Geoff's questions to Xbox, a CD developer's tweet (that wasn't about Robin Williams death), cboat, shinobi etc.

 

[Necromanti]

Each console has their exclusives, there is nothing special here. So what if it's an exclusive you wanted that won't be available on your console. Am I supposed to cry and cause an uproar every time Sony announces an exclusive game on their console? This is getting beyond pathetic! Maybe I should go and complain that they are taking people's rights away by releasing Bloodborne only on PS4. All of those people who played Dark Souls on PC are being denied their rights!

Bloodborne is being published by Sony, so that's kind of a dumb analogy.

 

[Mahonay]

Microsoft would not benefit because according to your post, PS4 owners will be playing U4 at that time anyway (inferred, won't buy Rise). Why would MS moneyhat for a game PS4 owner's won't buy?

Makes no sense

It's a holiday release when people are buying new consoles. They are trying to sell XB1's with this.

We're not the audience which they're targeting with a move like this. It's your average consumer that walks into a store and sees Tomb Raider on one console and not the the other.

 

[Carnby]

in your opinion. The last Tomb Raider was one of the better games I have played in the last few years. Thankfully I own an xbox one and ps4. This will be a must own game for me

I haven't noticed any "i will buy an Xbox One to play Tomb Raider 2" comments. That was my point.

 

[icespide]

apparently the writer of the game is getting harassed on twitter now

 

[sirap]

Jesus. I hope we get a pc version sometime down the road. TR looked fantastic at 1440p.

Still, even if it only comes out on the bone then I'll atleast have an excuse to plug it in 😛

 

[Maintenance]

That's not a spin. Confirmation IS when either MS or SE provide an official response.

If I ask you something and you answer something else, to me that is a spin. He said he didn't trust CBOAT. I asked if he trusted shinobi, who had another source. He didn't answer until the second post. Spin.

 

[ProvenDeadly]

MS literally spent money just to take a game away from Playstation.
I can see spending money on an exclusive, but this is spending just to prevent versions from releasing.

So Sony has never done a similar thing?

 

[bishoptl]

That's confirmation!?

Wasn't he banned for spewing nonsense and fud about ms?

CBOAT received a 3 day ban for doubling down on Titanfall resolution claims which were proved wrong on release. Looked at in context of his overall track record, his accuracy is fine. Most of the people squawking for his head post E3 couldn't be more transparent if they tried.

As far as this timed exclusivity goes, the writing is on the wall. If Geoff Keighley can't get a straight answer, Andy McNamara from Game Informer says it's timed, along with shinobi and cboat?

cmonson.gif

 

[A_Gorilla]

What if the tradeoff is FFXV being timed for PS4?
I'd like to know more about this closed door deal.

Considering the state that SE is at this point, I have no expectation of FF XV being any better than FFXIII

 

[Sayad]

Reactions of angry videogames fanboys online doesn't equal reality.

Check the names, those are journalists. If that made it into a BBC's article, then it's far beyond angry gamers on an internet forum.

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

apparently the writer of the game is getting harassed on twitter now

How stupid. Got a link?

 

[apollo1444]

so is it timed? or full bought-xclusive

 

[Dirk Benedict]

I'd give away RoTR to Microsoft for good if it meant FFXV was actually, you know, coming out.

Fair enough. At least they showed something which looked like progression in their development cycle. How long has this game been worked on? Close to a decade?

Now that you mention.. I'm reminded this is SE. Sensible decisions are not part of their collective thoughtprocess.

Considering the state that SE is at this point, I have no expectation of FF XV being any better than FFXIII

I want to believe otherwise, but a part of me, the part that enjoys facing reality, agrees with you.

 

[SummitAve]

apparently the writer of the game is getting harassed on twitter now

The people who use twitter like this are the worst.

 

[ICPEE]

Petition against this has 2200 signatures in about 2 hours now.

https://www.change.org/petitions/sq...-of-the-tomb-raider-exclusively-on-xbox-one-2

Jesus, lol, that aint gonna change a god damn thing. Its best people just forget about it and move on. I'm a lil miffed myself cause i was looking forward to playing it on PC but this petition nonsense has got to stop.

 

[Frillen]

Hopefully a time exclusive.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Phil Spencer about this deal


LOL!!!

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/473920/tomb-raider-exclusivity-a-win-win-says-xbox-boss/

Maybe they wanted more money for development.

 

[Necromanti]

So Sony has never done a similar thing?

Why does it matter who does it? It's a practice that inherently serves no benefit to consumers whatsoever. But maybe it's what Square-Enix needed.

 

[Tain]

The only exclusive games Sony announces are titles they're working on themselves. Or at least contributing to. All MS is doing is throwing money around.

funding development? lol the horror

 

[LuuKyK]

Lead Game Designer on Uncharted 4

Well, I guess that was MS's intention from the start. To pay for a timed exclusivity of a game similar to one of their rivals most iconic series to try and make the consumer base feel divided, therefore trying to lessen the impact of a new Uncharted game. All that considering they launch in the same time frame. But then again, if MS went this far, I guess they have all that planned out already. If it will work is another question though.

 

[Goodacre0081]

Someone enlighten me on how this affects MS image. It clearly hurts CD, but MS did what any company would do.

it doesn't.

all it does, IMO, is re-enforce the notion that the executive shake-up didn't do much to change the mindset they have over in Redmond.

 

[Raytow]

Okay so console timed exclusive is fine and dandy

Spoiler

NOPE

but shunning PC too MS, really?

 

[Åesop]

This is art.

This is so good.

I can go on..

 

[GavinUK86]

apparently the writer of the game is getting harassed on twitter now

Yup. Rhianna Pratchett and Camilla Luddington are getting swamped with tweets about TR on XBO. Why on earth people think they would know I have no idea.