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Rumor: Forza 6 and Forza Horizons 3 coming to Windows 10
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SlickShoesRUCrazy
Member
The Windows 10 equivalent of a steam box is the Xbox hehe.
Maybe next gen we can have multiple Xbox dedicated hardware releases at different price to entry points for performance and/or Xbox software comparible to steam big picture mode that can be activated within Windows 10 for living rooms so that when you turn on your gaming htpc, it launches directly into the NXOE.
Add the ability to use cable cards and recording live tv, you have a very attractive home entertainment option.
Crossplay is not good for all games. Like shooters.
But you're still buying the games from microsoft, and you have upgraded to windows 10.
Microsoft is happy, and you are happy as well.
Ricky Ricardo
Member
Microsoft cannot win.
They keep all their exclusives and say PC is a focus, people call them liars and say there's no evidence of commitment.
They commit and put all their exclusives on PC and people say they're desperate, panicking, etc and that the Xbox One no longer holds any value.
SMH
Yeah, I know for shooters but everything else should be.
Please let this be true. I supported Xbox the last two gens, but still haven't picked up a One yet. I've now become more of a PC (and PS4) gamer the last few years, but have been itching to play Forza Horizons. Along with Quantum Break, if all these rumors are true, I'm buying every single game MS puts in the Win 10 Store.
Too much money to be made from console gamers who only play multiplats for MS to not have a simple/straightforward "TV gaming box" in the future.
I'm trying to say the same thing!
MSFT gets their money, but in the meantime they piss off lots of people. And they might even bury the whole Xbox project because of this Win 10/DX 12 move.
All I can say: we'll see. I feel sorry for those Xbone owners who have their box for exclusives only.
Do you mean Xbone owners who also own a gaming PC? Not all owners have a gaming PC and/or have interest in getting one, therefore these games will still be viewed as exclusive to them since they aren't on the Wii U and PS4.
wapplew
Member
What about make RTS or any PC oriented genre for PC exclusive and keep console experience exclusive to console? Both party happy.
I just want new AOE.
From the last Quantum Break thread, my thoughts are all these Win10 games might as well still be considered XB1 exclusives. If it's not on Steam then it might as well not be considered an option for PC gamers, no? Not that I agree with that, but that seemed to be the sentiment with Quantum Break.
Anyway, like I've maintained before, facts are: Most people don't buy consoles for exclusives and releasing these games on PC is objectively pro consumer. Doesn't hurt me as an XB1 owner if other people (PC gamers) get to play these games.
Anyway, like I've maintained before, facts are: Most people don't buy consoles for exclusives and releasing these games on PC is objectively pro consumer. Doesn't hurt me as an XB1 owner if other people (PC gamers) get to play these games.
It wouldn't surprise me if the Xbox One is the last dedicated console from Microsoft. It may be my last Xbox. Next gen I'll probably go PC and Nintendo.
Don't go that fast, it's just a rumor, though if that'll turns out to be true and even Gears 4 and Scalebound will follow the same path, then i guess Halo will eventually come to Windows 10 too, starting with the Master Chief Collection
wonderful103
Member
I think Nintendo crossed that line a whole bunch of times, but on the back of a successful console not a failed one
There are far more pcs playing games than xboned or ps4s last time I looked
Console development is liberating? What? And you act as though there hasn't and won't be people cheating on consoles. There is and there will be. And what about those using wheels and other enhancers? The playing field isn't as even as you make it out to be.
Xbox, PlayStation, Nintendo - they're all going to evolve into something else. It's just a matter of who takes the first step
Unless Nintendo NX really means Next Xbox, which would meen that they'll make game on Windows 10 PC too
That's the plan, MS just has to come through. Games have cross-buy & cross-play, I buy games. They don't, I don't. Its up to MS to add value
If true, this is good. I don't think the amount of people who will buy the PC versions instead of the Xbox versions will be enough to drastically hurt Xbox hardware sales. Plus, when you buy a Windows 10 Store game Microsoft still get's basically the same amount of money as if you'd bought it on Xbox, so the software sales are pretty much the same. What you have to ask yourself is: "How important are Xbox hardware sales to Microsoft?"
Some people on GAF (and elsewhere) seem to be very invested in the Xbox as a platform on its own, but at this point Microsoft is probably already thinking of Xbox as just another form factor of Windows. Plus, Xbox revenue was never really a huge piece of the Microsoft pie relatively speaking. The entire original Xbox's lifespan resulted in a net loss for Microsoft, and I think the 360 was a slight profit, but still nothing compared to Windows sales. Xbox as a vehicle for Windows makes more sense for Microsoft than Xbox as an end unto itself. For Sony it's different, because PlayStation it itself is a much more important part of Sony's business. For Nintendo, gaming hardware and software is the entire business. If we reach a point where the Xbox has no more exclusives, what you essentially have there is the cheapest Windodws HTPC on the market, or the living room sibling to the Surface tablets.
The one stumbling block I see here is third party developers. The ones that are releasing PC versions of their games are releasing them on Steam. Even if Microsoft convinces them to get into the cross-buy thing (which would turn Xbox into an easier alternative to Steam Machines), that's still pitting the Steam version of a game up against the Windows 10 Store version, and right now the W10 Store version is going to fall flat. Basically, Microsoft now needs to actually compete with Steam. That's great, but I'd like to see Microsoft actually try this time and not end up with GFWL 2.0. The ultimate irony here is that Valve has spent over 10 years doing precisely what Microsoft should have been doing -- consolizing PC gaming, and it has been doing so without giving up the unique advantages of PC gaming.
Some people on GAF (and elsewhere) seem to be very invested in the Xbox as a platform on its own, but at this point Microsoft is probably already thinking of Xbox as just another form factor of Windows. Plus, Xbox revenue was never really a huge piece of the Microsoft pie relatively speaking. The entire original Xbox's lifespan resulted in a net loss for Microsoft, and I think the 360 was a slight profit, but still nothing compared to Windows sales. Xbox as a vehicle for Windows makes more sense for Microsoft than Xbox as an end unto itself. For Sony it's different, because PlayStation it itself is a much more important part of Sony's business. For Nintendo, gaming hardware and software is the entire business. If we reach a point where the Xbox has no more exclusives, what you essentially have there is the cheapest Windodws HTPC on the market, or the living room sibling to the Surface tablets.
The one stumbling block I see here is third party developers. The ones that are releasing PC versions of their games are releasing them on Steam. Even if Microsoft convinces them to get into the cross-buy thing (which would turn Xbox into an easier alternative to Steam Machines), that's still pitting the Steam version of a game up against the Windows 10 Store version, and right now the W10 Store version is going to fall flat. Basically, Microsoft now needs to actually compete with Steam. That's great, but I'd like to see Microsoft actually try this time and not end up with GFWL 2.0. The ultimate irony here is that Valve has spent over 10 years doing precisely what Microsoft should have been doing -- consolizing PC gaming, and it has been doing so without giving up the unique advantages of PC gaming.
My knee jerk reaction to some of the comments was "why would anyone be upset by this?" but...
...I can understand this position. If a PC gamer purchased an XB1 specifically to be a Forza box because they love the franchise and it wasn't slated to be available on their platform of choice then it was a crappy investment in retrospect. But if the recent announcements of MS first party titles going PC are indeed foreshadowing their exit of the console market then there would be casualties regardless of when they pull the plug. If this is where their gaming division is heading at least the XB1 is in no way losing support and the games aren't being made exclusive to WIndows. It just gives the (potential) Xbox gamer a variable to consider when purchasing their consoles.
For me personally, I have a gaming PC and a PS4. If every single PS4 exclusive went to PC I would be pleased since it would give me an option as to what platform I could purchase a game on and I would still keep my PS4 regardless. Since my friends play on Playstation I'm in until they're out and I would happily continue to purchase certain "inferior" versions of games over their PC counterparts if that meant I could stay connected with them. As much as I would like all of them to migrate to PC, a turnkey/relatively cheap console is what works for them and I can respect that. There's value in the console to me outside of exclusive IPs.
...I can understand this position. If a PC gamer purchased an XB1 specifically to be a Forza box because they love the franchise and it wasn't slated to be available on their platform of choice then it was a crappy investment in retrospect. But if the recent announcements of MS first party titles going PC are indeed foreshadowing their exit of the console market then there would be casualties regardless of when they pull the plug. If this is where their gaming division is heading at least the XB1 is in no way losing support and the games aren't being made exclusive to WIndows. It just gives the (potential) Xbox gamer a variable to consider when purchasing their consoles.
For me personally, I have a gaming PC and a PS4. If every single PS4 exclusive went to PC I would be pleased since it would give me an option as to what platform I could purchase a game on and I would still keep my PS4 regardless. Since my friends play on Playstation I'm in until they're out and I would happily continue to purchase certain "inferior" versions of games over their PC counterparts if that meant I could stay connected with them. As much as I would like all of them to migrate to PC, a turnkey/relatively cheap console is what works for them and I can respect that. There's value in the console to me outside of exclusive IPs.
CraigerGamer
Member
Id think about selling my XBOX One with all of these games going to PC but many seem to be going for $120 or less on Craigslist. Probably not worth selling it at this point.
Sinking ship? You mean the console that has sold 20 million units? That's a sinking ship?
PS4 kicking the shit out of XB1 is a fact, but it's completely dulling some people's critical thinking skills.
Just because PS4 is kicking butt does not mean XB1 is a "sinking ship". PS4 will continue to lead in all territories worldwide and XB1 will continue to sell its own amounts, remain active, get software, etc...
I wonder how you'll react when Microsoft announces it will make another console to compete with PS5.
Ol No Bones
Banned
SMH at this post. There isn't really a logical point made to respond to so I guess I will ask, what is disappointing about this? You didn't write any example of why you are so disappointed.
Edit: realized who I was responding too. Is it disappointing because Halo will once again be tainting the PC by how awful it is or something?
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
MS makes almost no money on you buying their hardware. If you don't buy an Xbox and still buy all their games on the W10 store then they are perfectly happy with that. They will make more money from you than from someone buying an XB1 and getting all their games used.
wapplew
Member
I see a lot of exclusive don't sell console argument with multiplat sale and WiiU sale as example, but I still think that's over simplified the situation.
I think, gamer buy a console because they want both exclusive and multiplat. Now, why multiplat sold the best and exclusive not sold as well?
Say everyone buy big multiplat like COD or FIFA because it's go to game everyone can easily get in.
But some of those might also love exclusive A, and exclusive A is important deciding factor for him/her. Some of those like exclusive C or exclusive D etc.
Therefor even exclusive not sold as well as multiplat, but it's still an important factor when gamer decide which console to buy.
I think, gamer buy a console because they want both exclusive and multiplat. Now, why multiplat sold the best and exclusive not sold as well?
Say everyone buy big multiplat like COD or FIFA because it's go to game everyone can easily get in.
But some of those might also love exclusive A, and exclusive A is important deciding factor for him/her. Some of those like exclusive C or exclusive D etc.
Therefor even exclusive not sold as well as multiplat, but it's still an important factor when gamer decide which console to buy.
Night Angel
Member
They will, however, be losing out on whatever 3rd party games you inevitably buy on steam that they would have gotten a cut of on the XB1. And your Live sub.
Also, while people don't buy consoles ONLY for exclusives, I have a hard time believing they have no influence on a person's purchase. I don't see how this move better positions the Xbox for the consumer over its alternatives, especially for the (small subset of) people with gaming rigs.
Obliterator
Member
No idea. It was a gigantic strategic error that had no significant impact on hardware sales
There always will be one, the ease-of-use and simplicity of a console over a PC. Being able to just pop a game into and play will always be a reason people choose a console over a PC.
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
If they keep on doing the cross buy and hopefully some cross play titles, I'm going to be very happy that they're doing this.
You are too naive. Of course there will be list wars.
Steverulez
Member
There will be list wars but the Xbox One list will feature this as its list:
I still see games like No Man's Sky and Street Fighter V being used in certain threads so maybe not. (heh)
Gamezone
Gold Member
So don't buy one? I think most people buy consoles because they are more user friendly anyway. I don't think this will impact Xbox One sales in any way.
TylerDurden4321
Member
I think a big chunk of Xbox One owners do that now already and also what if you still pay for Xbox Live online gaming on PC and have your big friends list from the 360 times on Windows 10 Xbox app and not on Steam, what if they do something for you that makes online play better on Xbox Live than on Steam. Then maybe you won't buy the games on steam. ...ok Microsoft might have to do some big price-cuts to compete with non-day1 games on steam, but Microsoft has the money to take an initial loss if they then later on have the chance to eat parts of Steams lunch.
Exactly on the money. It's funny when lots of console folk say this, then angry when the game arrives on PC and then say oh what was the point of buying an Xbox. Quite ironic.
AmaterasuOni
Banned
Forza Horizon 3, yes please. I've been playing FH2 a bit on my brother's Xbone and it's quite a lot of fun.
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I think part of demand behind Gold (partly based on my experience) has shifted to the included Games with Gold offers/titles. If I play online more than a few times a month, that's the exception, but the membership is still worth maintaining.
More general comment: I feel like the selling point of a self-contained gaming machine for $300 or less that can run high-profile games, and having many of those games available on PC (and all the goodies associated with that platform) is sort of win-win.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Microsoft is after the PC gamers with these moves. They're talking of creating titles exclusively for the PC market. Will Xbox users be ok with Windows getting all of their games, and money made on those funding new PC exclusive ips?
Ol No Bones
Banned
What big PC exclusive IP have they announced?
As a PC gamer I have nothing against this.