Only thing I want from this would be them releasing Blue Dragon and Lost Odissey on PC, then it'd be worthwhile.
Console sales aren't where the big profits come in, if I'm correct. People feel free to correct me, but the point of the console is to get you into their Eco-system so they can sell you stuff. 'If' so why didn't Microsoft do this a long time ago?
Some people only buy consoles for their exclusives and play everything else on PC. For those, consoles completely lose their appeal as soon as the same games become available on PC.
I regret buying an Xbox One more and more with every rumour sadly.
Sure, but this move wont increase xbone sales.
You're right but the games will still be exclusive a to 'console'. PS4 Street Fighter V isn't going to lose out because its also out on the PC.
Funny how people seem to forget that Tomb Raider II III, IV was meant to be exclusives to SONY. Don't remember SONY PS owners getting rid of their PS because Tomb Raider III, Resident Evil 2, G Police, Final Fantasy 7, F1, Colin McRae and the like were also out on the PC with 3DFX support and so had better screen res and graphics than the PS.
Sure, but this move wont increase xbone sales.
To put it simple again: with the prices for Xbox One bundles I don't see MS making any real money from selling the HW. So the only outcome this could have is them selling more copies of games which makes them actual money. Some people here are really stuck in a competitive "NPD sold HW numbers" mindset. People don't go into stores and say: "well. The game is also available on PC so I won't buy an Xbox One... It's not exclusive enough" that would be dumb. And if those people have a gaming rig they will just buy it there. Nothing is lost for MS here. They just have to make MP gaming free on X1 and PC and offer the rest of the Xbox Live sub perks to PC players as well. (Discounts and GWG)
We are in a different thread then, lol. I'm seeing everything from "then why buy an Xbox" to "so I guess MS are done with consoles". I only quoted you because what you outlined is presumably the reason that people think it's "game over, man!".
My ONLY real concern is the evaporation of the strong XBOX Live ecosystem. I love the no-cheating, all under one gamer tag reputation, friends list, party chat etc.
I want folks with top of the line PC's to enjoy the games. I don't want to cross play Halo with them if they're KBM and don't want their modding ass on my servers.
I like the level playing field of consoles for competitive games.
How can you say this though? If this move helps these games become a bit more popular, and causes more new IPs to be tested under this model, then wouldn't that mean more game variety for people who only care about console gaming? Wouldn't that make the Xbox One more attractive than it currently is for these people?
I am not surprised by Xbox players being upset at this news. I know people say "Why do you give a shit games are going to PC? Does it some how affect your enjoyment on the XB1?"
Ok, but I see where the upset people are coming from. By putting games on PC.....
1) Less people will buy XB1 hardware. How much? Who knows. But there will be less sales.
OR
2) People will sell their XB1 if they have a gaming PC.
You can't deny that these things will happen. I'm not saying it'll happen in droves, or it will be a huge dent.
Now, people like the Xbox console. They want to see it flourish. They are afraid that sales will start to slow down even more, and that maybe MS will see that they don't need to be in the console business anymore.
I am not surprised by Xbox players being upset at this news. I know people say "Why do you give a shit games are going to PC? Does it some how affect your enjoyment on the XB1?"
Ok, but I see where the upset people are coming from. By putting games on PC.....
1) Less people will buy XB1 hardware. How much? Who knows. But there will be less sales.
OR
2) People will sell their XB1 if they have a gaming PC.
You can't deny that these things will happen. I'm not saying it'll happen in droves, or it will be a huge dent.
Now, people like the Xbox console. They want to see it flourish. They are afraid that sales will start to slow down even more, and that maybe MS will see that they don't need to be in the console business anymore.
You can build a computer for not much more than an Xbone and still be more powerful, and still function like a PC.
Get a 750 Ti, an i3, 8gb ram and you are set.
You can build a computer for not much more than an Xbone and still be more powerful, and still function like a PC.
Get a 750 Ti, an i3, 8gb ram and you are set.
My ONLY real concern is the evaporation of the strong XBOX Live ecosystem. I love the no-cheating, all under one gamer tag reputation, friends list, party chat etc.
I want folks with top of the line PC's to enjoy the games. I don't want to cross play Halo with them if they're KBM and don't want their modding ass on my servers.
I like the level playing field of consoles for competitive games.
I am not surprised by Xbox players being upset at this news. I know people say "Why do you give a shit games are going to PC? Does it some how affect your enjoyment on the XB1?"
Ok, but I see where the upset people are coming from. By putting games on PC.....
1) Less people will buy XB1 hardware. How much? Who knows. But there will be less sales.
OR
2) People will sell their XB1 if they have a gaming PC.
You can't deny that these things will happen. I'm not saying it'll happen in droves, or it will be a huge dent.
Now, people like the Xbox console. They want to see it flourish. They are afraid that sales will start to slow down even more, and that maybe MS will see that they don't need to be in the console business anymore.
How can you saM this though? If this move helps these games become a bit more popular, and causes more new IPs to be tested under this model, then wouldn't that mean more actual and/or visible game variety for people who only care about console gaming? Wouldn't that make the Xbox One more attractive than it currently is for these people?
If this is true why even own an xbox
Dude, just stop. I've been trying for awhile to get people to understand this. A lot of people are stuck in the NPD mindset and actually have no business sense nor understand that no money is made on the HW its all on the SW. If you can sell a game via two distribution channels that you own you could care less about the HW. The NPD stuff just turns into a dick wagging contest between fanboys.
Microsoft and Sony do not make money on HW, they make it on SW.
This may be a hardcore gaming forum, but the fact remains that the majority of gamers are not business savvy.
I'm sure they wish they did this long before stream take all their pie away.
Part of the Gold subscriptions revenue will also be donated to the help Syrian refuees.
Maybe I'm reading the thread in a wrong way.Of course there's always some doomsayers, but most people posting stuff along the line as "Now I don't see a reason to buy an Xbox anymore" or "I'm going to sell my Xbox" are talking about themselves personally and aren't implying that everyone will abandon Xbox now. At least that's how I perceived it.
My ONLY real concern is the evaporation of the strong XBOX Live ecosystem. I love the no-cheating, all under one gamer tag reputation, friends list, party chat etc.
I want folks with top of the line PC's to enjoy the games. I don't want to cross play Halo with them if they're KBM and don't want their modding ass on my servers.
I like the level playing field of consoles for competitive games.
Most PC gamers aren't the elitist type,
My ONLY real concern is the evaporation of the strong XBOX Live ecosystem. I love the no-cheating, all under one gamer tag reputation, friends list, party chat etc.
I want folks with top of the line PC's to enjoy the games. I don't want to cross play Halo with them if they're KBM and don't want their modding ass on my servers.
I like the level playing field of consoles for competitive games.
What ifs only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades and everyone doesn't use Windows 10.
They should make Midtown Madness 4 now.
What ifs only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades and everyone doesn't use Windows 10.
Another possibility though ("3") is that this move will cause games like Forza to have a shot at being more popular, and more new IPs to be tested via this model, so wouldn't this cause the Xbox One to look more attractive to people who don't care about PC gaming that don't own the console yet?
I like you.
Yes please.
Well... is Microsoft hitting that panic button? All exclusives going to PC leaves zero reasons to own Xbone.
I would be pissed off if I'd have an Xbone.
You can build a computer for not much more than an Xbone and still be more powerful, and still function like a PC.
Get a 750 Ti, an i3, 8gb ram and you are set.
Well... is Microsoft hitting that panic button? All exclusives going to PC leaves zero reasons to own Xbone.
I would be pissed off if I'd have an Xbone.
I regret buying an Xbox One more and more with every rumour sadly.
Less Xbox One sold, more Ps4 sold, more devs taking risks on Ps4 with games like Gravity Rush, Nier. Ni Oh.
Yup, everybody wins, except Xbox One.