For sure. They would have to bring the pretty good reasons. Maybe allow for dedicated servers on Azure only when paying. If you're not paying you get P2P connections. But I agree it would be stupid to try this again.
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Rumor: Forza 6 and Forza Horizons 3 coming to Windows 10
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For sure. They would have to bring the pretty good reasons. Maybe allow for dedicated servers on Azure only when paying. If you're not paying you get P2P connections. But I agree it would be stupid to try this again.
I am one of those people
Your Outrage.
J/K!
I was outraged, now im not
That number can't be super high though, right? I don't know...just seems like people are trying to create a sky is falling mentality to something that is A) good for PC gamers and B) not a big deal to the console market.
Would this make you a pc gamer with only buying exclusives on ps4?
protomouse
Member
Insightful analysis, as always.
Mass Effect
Member
If most exclusives' sales numbers on PS4/Xbone are any indicator, no, it isn't that high of a number.
The vast majority of people buy consoles to play multiplats. People acting like the Xbone is just going to die because some of their exclusives are coming to PC are living in a fantasy world.
They shouldn't do that either.
Everyone on earth owns a capable gaming PC. This guy has it figured out. LOL
People crack me up.
That would be so freaking cool but let's be realistic there. I don't expect announcements, just talk about features and stuff.
You can build a computer for not much more than an Xbone and still be more powerful, and still function like a PC.
Get a 750 Ti, an i3, 8gb ram and you are set.
You've come from the future! Nice. Will there be a new NBA Street? Really craving one on current gen.
FYI: This was the plan before the Xbox One even launched.
Yes, though you do also know that Halo 5 still did better than any other 2015 exclusive right?
So, the PS4 isn't selling due to it being the most powerful console then right? Console multiplats are available on PC and look better on PC so...
Oh wait, the majority of console gamers only care about console gaming! Hence why the PS4 being the most powerful console IS a reason why it's selling. With this being the case, wouldn't the majority of console gamers still view games that are on one gaming console and PC as "true exclusives" due to them not caring about PC?
Again, they planned this before the Xbox One even launched. Seems like you are too locked in to "console wars" though so I'm probably wasting my time replying (haha).
AlanzTalon
Member
Iso: $300 gaming PC.
I don't see why it wouldn't just make you a PC+PS4 gamer. Even if you only play the exclusives you're still a PS4 player. I only play DRIVECLUB on my PS4 and never play any multiplats on it unless I'm renting it to see if I want to buy the PC version but I still consider myself a PS4 user.
afternoon delight
Member
Can't modify exes? GFWL 2.0, fuck right off.
IncognitoPanda
Member
I understand the people feeling bitter about their XOne purchase, but perhaps theb it was a bad purchase in the first place?
Let's imagine the next generation: Xbox and Win10 has an identical games catalogue. If you prefer the couch and paying less for the box, grab and XOne. If not, get a rig. Most if not all are cross-buy/crossplay.
How is that not great for everyone? I understand it sucks if you would have went PC over Xbox if not for the exclusives, but it's a minor negative compared to games selling more.
Let's imagine the next generation: Xbox and Win10 has an identical games catalogue. If you prefer the couch and paying less for the box, grab and XOne. If not, get a rig. Most if not all are cross-buy/crossplay.
How is that not great for everyone? I understand it sucks if you would have went PC over Xbox if not for the exclusives, but it's a minor negative compared to games selling more.
Yeah, they really need to get in front of this. I mean with actual fixes, not words.
Don't bother, he clearly has an anti Microsoft agenda.
Nope, the 750ti only has 2gb of VRAM and abysmal bandwidth. Its time has finally come.
If crossbuy is going to be a platform feature according to Phil Spencer, why wouldn't most people just buy the XB1 version of a game and get the PC version free? Even if I didn't have an XB1 I would do that just to have both versions. XB1 will probably be $249 (or $199 with store deals) this holiday. That puts in 64Gb Apple Tv and Roku4 settop box territory. I know folks here mainly focus on the game side of the XB1, but it also is a very nice livingroom streaming device. We will see things play out, but I believe MS has done the calculation that this can only be positive in the long run. I could even see it spurring sell of gaming PCs since a catalog of AAA titles are coming.
Xbudz
Member
lightchris
Member
I don't think anyone said it was.
i mean i own a day one edition Xbox One (brought it for Killer Instinct) but all these PC ports really tempt me to sell.
Well duh. My i7/980 Ti works fine too.
Your average gamer/person does not know this..they also don't care...at all. Gaf is where enthusiast go...we do not represent the majority. In any way..not even close, if one thinks so, they're delusional.
That's fine, see the above. Build yourself a gaming PC like many of us here have. If you don't have, or don't plan to have a gaming PC...then your comment makes ZERO sense.
If you're saying "Other platforms get to play my game, I'm out!"...well, IDK what to say to that. Haha
LostDonkey
Member
I have one 'cause it's easier than lugging my PC round to a friends house. Plus splitscreen Co op isn't really a thing on many PC games.
If saves and progress are synced between the two platforms that would be perfect for me.
Lion Heart
Banned
Well, of course. But it makes any console a exclusive only gaming machine, just like you described. This isn't meant in a bad way.
Team Andromeda
Member
You're right but the games will still be exclusive a to 'console'. PS4 Street Fighter V isn't going to lose out because its also out on the PC.
Funny how people seem to forget that Tomb Raider II III, IV was meant to be exclusives to SONY. Don't remember SONY PS owners getting rid of their PS because Tomb Raider III, Resident Evil 2, G Police, Final Fantasy 7, F1, Colin McRae and the like were also out on the PC with 3DFX support and so had better screen res and graphics than the PS.
Most console gamers don't want to do this though. Hence why PS4 and Xbox One sales are largely being supported by titles that are on PC.
It's not just about cost. It's about convienece, as well as simply what people are familiar with -- in this case, the plug in, pop in, and play nature of consoles as well as these brands (Nintendo, Xbox, and PlayStation) being unanimous with gaming for 15-30 years.
I think they might and it would put Sony in a weird position. You could say it didn't matter last gen but it's quite the sweetener considering Xbox Live rather than PSN of the PS3 era.
afternoon delight
Member
I think they are way too sluggish to be able to react so deftly. Imagine how many meetings it takes to change any aspect of any DRM policy in fucking Microsoft, ugh. The visions give you nightmares.
LostDonkey
Member
Haha ikr, funny how times change.
That would be something.
TharpDaddy
Member
Owning a console is a less expensive and simpler process. You buy the console, you put in games, you play. PCs are not too difficult these days but it's still not as simple as a console. With a console you don't really have to worry about maintenance, upgrades, drivers, problem solving issues, and so on. Your game is (mostly) guaranteed to work after you put it in.
why? Sony started off with free online - they only moved to a paid model because MS showed you can get away with it on console and they would have been foolish to leave that money on the table. It'd be painful, but they could revert to free online if they wanted too I think.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
You make it sound like the X1 is some dainty little travel size box. lol
LostDonkey
Member
It is compared to my PC lol
Now i am hyped and i want it to happen lol.
Gladly change my 35 bucks a year to that.
Yeah your right, I've gotten used to the PC lifestyle so it doesn't bother me as much as it would people who aren't used to it
To put it simple again: with the prices for Xbox One bundles I don't see MS making any real money from selling the HW. So the only outcome this could have is them selling more copies of games which makes them actual money. Some people here are really stuck in a competitive "NPD sold HW numbers" mindset. People don't go into stores and say: "well. The game is also available on PC so I won't buy an Xbox One... It's not exclusive enough" that would be dumb. And if those people have a gaming rig they will just buy it there. Nothing is lost for MS here. They just have to make MP gaming free on X1 and PC and offer the rest of the Xbox Live sub perks to PC players as well. (Discounts and GWG)
Sure, but this move wont increase xbone sales.
We are in a different thread then, lol. I'm seeing everything from "then why buy an Xbox" to "so I guess MS are done with consoles". I only quoted you because what you outlined is presumably the reason that people think it's "game over, man!".
Ha, yeah I don't envy that one guy there who really wants to get it done.
RedSparrows
Member
Free online and Gold being an EA Access type deal would be incredible.
So, never gonna happen ;D
So, never gonna happen ;D
Possibly but that extra money is probably way more important to Sony in comparison to Microsoft.
Obliterator
Member
Exclusives do very very very little to sell consoles outside of a small group of major heavy hitters. Putting Forza, Quantum Break, etc. on PC will have next to no measurable impact on hardware sales and will instead introduce a whole new group of consumers to their products. This is nothing but a win for them
Part of the Gold subscriptions revenue will also be donated to the help of Syrian refuees.
? It wouldn't cost much to build a pc that is capable, and considering the other costs associated it would probably be a cheaper route in the long run