Can you quote those posts?
I got this thread confused with the other paul thurrot thread on the
front page. Point still stands though.
Can you quote those posts?
If Durango can operate as a set top cable box then the subscription model would allow you to ditch the cable box and use that monthly fee for Durango and Live.
Could work
If Durango can operate as a set top cable box then the subscription model would allow you to ditch the cable box and use that monthly fee for Durango and Live.
Could work
There are way too many sources at this point. There is no way this hasn't at least been true very recently and I do not expect them to change it at this point.
It was the same way with PS4 rumours. At one point it all became clear what the basic machine was with the sole exeption of 8GB of ram and even that we had few hints at.
-Internet required
-No BC
-Microsoft's focus slowly shifting away from games
-Heavily rumored to block used games
-$500
This gen going to be a no brainer for me.
You mean "Could work in the US and absolutely nowhere else in the world".
I won't, I already have a enough shit under my TV. If it's not BC, I'll wait a few years before picking up a Next box. It, and its games will be cheaper by then anyways. If the 'Online Only' thing turns out to be true, I'll skip it all together. Same with the PS4.What's with all the people claiming that there Not going to buy the system because there isn't any backwards compatibility? You obviously own the Xbox 360 right now, why not just keep It plugged in? People really like to make phony claims on the site. You know yourself that you're still going to buy the next Xbox or the next PlayStation.
Sites like EDGE and VGleaks have multiple sources.Only all sources are just one source, the DAE leak. Thurrot even admits it, says always on is in the notes. And that he has no info regarding BC yet supposes it won't be there. Prices are also pure speculation, Microsofts leaks show they want to hit 299 at launch. This is all just speculation based on DAE. Totally worthless. People using the same source to speculate even more don't make new sources. Just more made-up shit.
HEARD IT HERE FIRST!
Only all sources are just one source, the DAE leak. Thurrot even admits it, says always on is in the notes. And that he has no info regarding BC yet supposes it won't be there. Prices are also pure speculation, Microsofts leaks show they want to hit 299 at launch. This is all just speculation based on DAE. Totally worthless. People using the same source to speculate even more don't make new sources. Just more made-up shit.
Yup, at this point Edge looks like the most reputable source. They were the ones that called the 8GB for the ps4, which everyone (including Gaf) thought was batshit insane.Sites like EDGE and VGleaks have multiple sources.
So about those vacuum cleaners?
I really think $350 is a pipe dream. Though I agree with the $400/$500
Yep. M$ could still keep its hold on the US but anywhere else?
Only all sources are just one source, the DAE leak. Thurrot even admits it, says always on is in the notes. And that he has no info regarding BC yet supposes it won't be there. Prices are also pure speculation, Microsofts leaks show they want to hit 299 at launch. This is all just speculation based on DAE. Totally worthless. People using the same source to speculate even more don't make new sources. Just more made-up shit.
started to use mine today. Power went out. Guess I have to sell it as I have no use for it anymore....
GAF YOU NEED TO SORT YOUR SHIT OUT
All your opinions are of a hardcore gamer group. Do you really think average jo gives a shit about always online when their Xbox is always connected to the socket anyway.
Do you not think the average jo will like being able to do things via a phone app.
Do you think the average jo will care about BC when all they want to do is play next gen games
Seriously you need to get a grip.
Oh yeah, for sure but I pay a monthly fee to the cable company for my cable box, with this setup I get the cable box (Durango) and Live. I don't know if that's the plan, just thinking out loudTheoretically I'm pretty sure they're setting it up so that it replaces the cable box, but it doesn't replace the cable service. You'd still have to pay Comcast or whoever to watch cable channels.
You mean "Could work in the US and absolutely nowhere else in the world".
GAF YOU NEED TO SORT YOUR SHIT OUT
All your opinions are of a hardcore gamer group. Do you really think average jo gives a shit about always online when their Xbox is always connected to the socket anyway.
Do you not think the average jo will like being able to do things via a phone app.
Do you think the average jo will care about BC when all they want to do is play next gen games
Seriously you need to get a grip.
If you want to play old games why don't you, you know, spend the next 8 months playing them and then hold onto your old console if you still have the urge? BC this next-gen is pointless. It was at least valuable on 360 because it upscaled, but the resolution isn't changing. Adding BC would be a huge cost that almost no one uses that wouldn't provide a better experience than buying a $99 360. It makes no sense for anyone.
Because neoGAF is not a massive circle jerk, that's why you didn't realize it.
The problem for your nonsense is that we didn't reach some 'conclusions', there have been a neverending stream of rumours from very reliable sources that have echoed a litany of similar features all of which are extremely negative on average for the consumer. As neoGAF is a community filled with consumers, it's no surprise why the majority would react harshly.
As for anyone 'heralding the end of Microsoft', I'm a consumer. 360 was my favorite console until Microsoft released that Kinect abomination. Then I just disliked all the consoles. But there's no doubt PS4 is far more exciting as a consumer than the new Xbox sounds to be, and this is not 'jumping to conclusions' it's simply evaluating what we know about PS4 versus what we do know about Durango and then combing through the most reliable rumours we have.
PS4 has been designed so far in every way to be extremely friendly for developers, indies, consumers. There has genuinely not been a single shred of negative news about the system except maybe that their initial reveal could have used more exciting videogames, which most of us know we'll see at E3.
And why wouldn't we be excited for PS4? it's a gamers dream machine.
But that's not all they have said. JUST from the initial reveal we got more news than that ->
+ Words from virtually every developer on the planet about the massive change in philosophy toward helping devs and having a friendly, easy development environment.
+ Words from any Indie that has bothered to comment about how great PS4's indie philosophy is in every conceivable way, with considerable detail about why it's so great
+ Words about how massively powerful the system is going to be, and what it's potential is now considering its unprecedented amount of super fast RAM.
+ Words about the SHARE button, which is one of those innovations that genuinely have huge implications for games without being a pointless gimmick.
+ Details about every aspect of the controller, from its touch pad and color indicators.
+ Details about the new PlayStation store and the various ways the new interface will be changing the game
+ Details about the new downloading schemes: start playing games as soon as you start a download.
+ Details about the new online infrastructure and what it will mean for games
+ Details from weird creepy Crash Bandicoot guy about the extensive change in approach toward courting anyone who wants to make anything on PS4.
In short, we got a plethora of information that gave us a massive idea about exactly where Sony was going with PS4.
I'd only agree with you that the current slate of game announcements was rather unimpressive (except that Drive Club game), but I hardly expected them to reveal very many of those before E3, which will be their big show. The important thing was understanding the philosophy behind the system, who is supporting it and what their outlook is, and we got all of that with the PS4 unveil.
More like wishful fans
Only all sources are just one source, the DAE leak. Thurrot even admits it, says always on is in the notes. And that he has no info regarding BC yet supposes it won't be there. Prices are also pure speculation, Microsofts leaks show they want to hit 299 at launch. This is all just speculation based on DAE. Totally worthless. People using the same source to speculate even more don't make new sources. Just more made-up shit.
No, a lot of them want to play Call of Duty with their buds. You think the next COD coming this fall won't be on 360? Why buy a $500 console if they can keep playing the latest Call of Duty with their friends?GAF YOU NEED TO SORT YOUR SHIT OUT
All your opinions are of a hardcore gamer group. Do you really think average jo gives a shit about always online when their Xbox is always connected to the socket anyway.
Do you not think the average jo will like being able to do things via a phone app.
Do you think the average jo will care about BC when all they want to do is play next gen games
Seriously you need to get a grip.
Of course I have negative feelings about both machines. But at the end of the day I prefer MS multiplayer based approach to thier games, and im prepared to overlook other negatives because of this? I'm assuming they will introduce a new multiplayer based IP next gen, which will no doubt sell me the machine.
This is a hilarious thread. I've noticed some juniors are becoming slightly too revealing.
Right now these rumors (which sound fairly reliable) are the only thing we can base our discussion on so I don't know what some people are expecting. It's not like if it all turns out to be false and the Next Xbox is actually a dream machine then people would still be holding a grudge.
GAF YOU NEED TO SORT YOUR SHIT OUT
All your opinions are of a hardcore gamer group. Do you really think average jo gives a shit about always online when their Xbox is always connected to the socket anyway.
Do you not think the average jo will like being able to do things via a phone app.
Do you think the average jo will care about BC when all they want to do is play next gen games
Seriously you need to get a grip.
Do you think the average jo will care about BC when all they want to do is play next gen games
Seriously you need to get a grip.
GAF YOU NEED TO SORT YOUR SHIT OUT
All your opinions are of a hardcore gamer group. Do you really think average jo gives a shit about always online when their Xbox is always connected to the socket anyway.
Do you not think the average jo will like being able to do things via a phone app.
Do you think the average jo will care about BC when all they want to do is play next gen games
Seriously you need to get a grip.
I'm flabbergasted at MS's stupidity if all this turns out to be true. There's nothing they could unveil to justify an online-only console for me. I wouldn't even contemplate purchasing if it was $50, let alone these ridiculous prices.
All your opinions are of a hardcore gamer group. Do you really think average jo gives a shit about always online when their Xbox is always connected to the socket anyway.
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If Durango can operate as a set top cable box then the subscription model would allow you to ditch the cable box and use that monthly fee for Durango and Live.
Could work
GAF YOU NEED TO SORT YOUR SHIT OUT
All your opinions are of a hardcore gamer group. Do you really think average jo gives a shit about always online when their Xbox is always connected to the socket anyway.
Do you not think the average jo will like being able to do things via a phone app.
Do you think the average jo will care about BC when all they want to do is play next gen games
Seriously you need to get a grip.
imagine having a gaming console that wont work unless your internet is working.... wow, what to do when the internet is dead?
I can name a few countries where the internet is not as stable and have regular down time.