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Rumour: Nintendo aiming for Zelda BotW release on June 16 (EUR), Switch release first
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LiveFromKyoto
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Then fortunately, we're having a different conversation.
Not said:
I've been a loyal Wii U owner since launch, and I honestly don't ever remember it being pitched as the game that would save the system, or any promises of exclusivity (the closest I can think of were vague words along the lines of "no plans to bring it to NX").
The shitty thing to do would have been to abandon the Wii U 18 months ago when it was obvious it wasn't a salvageable system, and move the game to the Switch entirely. Those types of moves have happened plenty of times throughout gaming history.
The fact that Nintendo saw it out with 4 full years of Wii U support and are still giving us this game even though they'd probably be better off putting all their development resources into one basket and using it to drive Switch sales shows that they're committed to supporting their player base, not the opposite. As a Wii U owner that's always seemed clear as day to me. Because my beloved Dreamcast didn't get that kind of support, nor did my Neo Geo Pocket. But Nintendo threw good money after bad on this system for at least 2 years keeping good faith on consumers' investments. I don't know if I'll buy a Switch, but I do know the only reason I'm even considering it is because they did so.
Exterminieren
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We should demand a better calibre of troll.
I see your point but the Xbox 360 to the Xbox One and Wii U to Switch situation isn't analogous. Xbox 360 wasn't replaced in 4.333 years after being on the market like the Wii U is going to be with the Switch. Secondly, The Xbox 360 was receiving games during the launch and years after the release for the Xbox One. To be quite frank, it is clearly obvious the only reason the Wii U wasn't replaced quickly is due to the tech used by the Switch not being available until now (the insider leaked Pascal Nvidia GPU tech with A72 or A73 ARM CPU's). I will give Nintendo some credit in that they could have had abandoned the Wii U earlier; however, their Wii U output, when compared to the GameCube, was substandard. During the first 365 days of the Wii U, Nintendo support was extremely weak and last year market, Nintendo support of the Wii U was extremely weak. The console only got truly two years of solid support late 2013 to late 2015 and Spring 2016 (with a good few months of gaps during though years).
Here is a video with Miyamoto & Aonuma that was shown during the 2014 Gamer Awards (NX was first mentioned in March 2015):
At this mark Miyamoto asked Aonuma will it be really next year and he says yes...You can take it however you want rather Zelda was planed or not planed to save the Wii U.
Fuck, I don't want another zelda-centric E3
DragonSworne
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It's not going to save the Switch either but the more platforms it is on the better.
Gamer @ Heart
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We live in a world where smash and Zelda are the only games Nintendo can't afford to wait and announce when a release date is set. Hell even mario is down to the reveal > 6 month release window now.
Nintendo is a company where if the producers ask for more time they can get it, doubly so when those games are the cornerstone of the company in terms of industry mindshare. Stop taking this stuff personal.
Nintendo is a company where if the producers ask for more time they can get it, doubly so when those games are the cornerstone of the company in terms of industry mindshare. Stop taking this stuff personal.
DecoReturns
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The Switch doesn't need saving considering it hasn't even released yet.
We should probably hold off on calling it a failure right now.
Yeah, they made one of their best games. Pretty lame. And Majora's Mask anyone? (1 year dev cycle!)
I realize game development takes a ton of resources these days, but Nintendo should be rushed in terms of Zelda. I think it results in quality and innovation.
Skyward Sword is the worst Zelda game and it got five years of dev time. Three years for Phantom Hourglass, and Spirit Tracks (a year or so later) was wayyyyy better.
In fact, I'd love it if they made making brand new Zelda games using the same engine a regular practice, rather than ground-upping it for every new console.
Gamer @ Heart
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Majoras mask was intended to be 1 year. It didn't manage that and got 2.
Also, asking a developer to rush a game is silly. The series is revered because they don't rush things and take their time. They wouldn't feel as special if they came out every 2 years. Those simpler development days are long gone and I don't want one of the industries brightest beacons didiminished by greedily pumping out less stellar games. And you shouldn't openly admit thinking PH is better than SS. You don't want people to not take you seriously!
Gotdatmoney
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It's your money, you can do what you want with it. The amount of people going to buy purely used because a week stagger is so small literally no one gives a shit.
It's just a pointless threat. Like the used market exists, if you wanna use it why would anyone feel any type of way?
Buy it for whatever you want? Like, I don't grasp the issue. A game available on multiple platforms means you have to make a choice. You going to boycott the whole company because ports exist? Your choice but this isn't a real issue to 99% of the gaming demographic.
TheSpaceBetween
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Correct, you do not grasp the issue.
OrbitalBeard
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Actually, it will probably help the Switch in a pretty big way.
J
Jpop
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Because there is no issue. The game is still coming to the Wii U.
If you want it on the Wii U, wait a week. If it is that big of a deal to play day one get a Switch.
I'll probably wait around two weeks or so after the Switch release to buy a Wii U copy used, I cannot support such blatant nonsense.
What if there's no physical Wii U release? What do you do then?
Poimandres
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A 1 week delay between Switch and Wii U is fine. I say this as a Wii U owner who almost definitely will not own a Switch at that time.
If they are sitting on a finished Wii U version twiddling their thumbs for several months? That is not okay with me.
If they are sitting on a finished Wii U version twiddling their thumbs for several months? That is not okay with me.
BoTW delays could also simply be due to the game's size and scope?
Nintendo probably completely underestimated the development time needed for an open world game, and as they were filling in the world I think they started to run wild with possibilities and mechanics.
When Aunoma made the announcement it was going to be delayed from 2015 to 2016, that's probably around the time they knew it was going to come to the Switch (NX) and had extra time to pad out the game. It's going to be a really massive title, and I feel like not launching on Switch is a missed opportunity...
A 3D Mario on release day would probably fill the hypothetical void BotW would leave. Even though we've even seen snippets of the 3D Mario, I still feel BotW is a more stunning achievement, and one that really revolutionizes the Zelda franchise and pushed the open world genre forward. 3D Mario won't excite a certain audience missing on Nintendo's platform the same way. I also have lofty expectations for BotW, I think it will push atleast 8 million units.
Switch will likely have a fantastic launch, and Zelda 3 months later in June would give the console some serious momentum.
I guess buy the Switch version used whenever the hell I buy a Switch system used probably in the distant future. And rip a huge fart.
Dash Kappei
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Well, considering the Wii U has been busted wide open and people can play pirated releases in under 10 minutes "work" I never considered even for a minute that both versions would be coming out at the same time ever since we heard the Switch coming in the same timeframe (more or less)... Honestly, I'll be impressed if it really ends up being just a one week delay, was gonna bet on 1 month being more likely
Dash Kappei
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I know right!?
They must be envious as fuck of Dreamcast US owners getting to play Shenmue 2 back then, or PS3 owners experiencing The Last Guardian (FFXIII Vs is on SE) and especially of the amazing support Microsoft gave to the OG Xbox in its 3rd and 4th year on the market.
What's funny is that Nintendo does do some genuinely questionable shit (Foxconn, conflict minerals, shutting down fan works) and yet some people can ignore all that but draw the line at a Zelda game releasing an entire week later than it could have. Really shows how childishly warped some people's priorities are.
I bought a Wiiu for one game Zelda Nintendo screwed me.
You're still getting your Zelda for you Wii U..
Herb Alpert
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World needs more political courage like this.
Stand strong against the oppression madame M!
DecoReturns
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I have a feeling the Wii U version of Botw will be rare and most expensive used.
Jorok Goldblade
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Don't buy systems for games without firm release dates.
Lol
Those first two things are something every large electronics company is guilty of, and I wouldn't call shutting down fan projects using their IPs questionable. You may not like it, but there isn't anything immoral about it really.
BarringGaffner
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Yeah... Wii U is my most expensive console in terms of average game cost by a lot. The high cost of games combined with me purchasing so few games means the total cost per game including console was $90+ for me...
Jon Carter
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You bought the console for one game only, except the game in question didn't even have a release date? So you bought the console with no game and left it in the box in the closet until that game came out?
If not, you bought it for more than one game.
Buying a whole console for a single game that doesn't have a release date, won't probably come out for years, no guarantee it will ever release (at least on the platform you bought it for), not to mention the lack of information about the game not pertaining to release date (like what kind of gameplay or structure it will have, which we only finally got this year after years of only knowing that a new Zelda is supposedly coming), is foolish.
And they didn't screw you considering Nintendo is keeping their promise of delivering a new Zelda on the Wii U.
Linkstrikesback
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Well then you're a bit daft for buying a console months or years before the games release date.
And the game is still coming out, just like it was when you bought the Wii u
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Screwed you into what?
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