ryanthelion123
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That reminds me of the only thing I was really disappointed in. All that fanservice and no Yoda.
Sorry but people like you are why the newer movies suck. They just retread on old ground.
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[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens - It's True. All of it.
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Sorry but people like you are why the newer movies suck. They just retread on old ground.
slightconfuse
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That reminds me of the only thing I was really disappointed in. All that fanservice and no Yoda.
Got to save something for later
Punished C3P0.
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
Some comic is supposed to tell you why his arm is red and no he is alive I assume.
Thaedolus
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Now somebody photoshop up a Yoda McConaughey
Dang, wasn't he on the planet when it blew up?
Christopher
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He's a live and is going to come back with a scar didn't you see?
Again was Coursant destroyed?
Again was Coursant destroyed?
Digital-Hero
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That reminds me of the only thing I was really disappointed in. All that fanservice and no Yoda.
What? Yoda is there in the lightsaber scene with Rey. You hear him.
Really
Fortunately, there are only a few "canonical" EU books now, everything that came before has been relegated to "mythology".
The main ones that exist are:
Aftermath (which by all accounts is terrible) - takes place immediately after Return of the Jedi
Lost Stars (a young adult novel which is probably the best of the new books) - takes place before, during, and after the Original Trilogy, including the Battle of Jakku.
Twilight Company (a tie-in novel to Battlefront and is actually pretty decent) - takes place between A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back.
Honestly, besides Han, there really isn't much to spoil.
So you didn't like this movie?
I'd have preferred they shove all that stuff into this movie instead of stretching it out. Obviously he is still an important character in the universe, so it's not like they'll just never touch on him again.
Anton Sugar
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Seriously, this is why I'm most frustrated and excited. Literally don't know what to expect, other than a carbon copy of ESB
Certainly seems that way.
Anton Sugar
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Coruscant is safe. The Republic would periodically change Capitals based on elections. It was the Hosnian Systems time to be the Capital.
Digital-Hero
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Seriously, this is why I'm most frustrated and excited. Literally don't know what to expect, other than a carbon copy of ESB
It's fustrating. Luke saved for 30 seconds in the end. I swore Mark Hamill was in England for a month or so last year. It doesn't take that long to shoot a scene.
Hosnians, you voted ....poorly.
I would be so down with this being true.
I haven't really been following this too closely, but I'd like it if Rey was Obi Wan's granddaughter if they end up making her lineage someone from the movies. I think it'd be a cool inversion of the Anikin/Obi Wan relationship with Rey/Kylo Ren. But really, I'd just prefer if her lineage mystery was a red herring.
slightconfuse
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Thanks was looking for new cannon recomdations. I'll keep my,eye out
For those that only saw the movies (like me), it did seem like Coruscant (since that's the only city-wide planet with super tall buildings and many moons one has seen in the movies); but apparently it's a different planet called Hosnian Prime, the current capital of the Republic according to the books.
Honestly, I would have rather it had been Coruscant. It would have been a "Vulcan is destroyed" moment from JJ's Star trek.
prag16
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I won't HATE it, but some of the build up in this movie would seem a little odd in retrospect if she turns out just to be a random. An extremely overpowered (considering she's basically untrained) random.
If she IS a random, I fully expect a full blown redemption arc for Ben. Would they really let the Skywalker line end with an evil asshole, end of story?
FriendlyGoat
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I've been thinking about it, and I don't think Rey necessarily needs to be Luke's daughter. You want a real gutpunch twist that will get that dark side temptation going? Find out your family didn't just leave you, or hide you away for protection, they straight up abandoned you. Why the hell would Luke hand her over to Unkar Plutt?
Luke wasn't part of her past, he isn't her father, he is her future and can become her father figure (as she had started to see Han as a father figure). She isn't the child or grandchild of the chosen one like Luke and Ren are. She is a genuine nobody who becomes somebody. The force in her wasn't some dormant power reawakening from some repressed memory, but the result of her hope and wonder. She never suddenly became a Jedi in the film, all her powers were raw and the result of feeling it out based on what she had observed and understood from myth.
Not that this precludes some later familial revelation or twist or what have you.
Luke wasn't part of her past, he isn't her father, he is her future and can become her father figure (as she had started to see Han as a father figure). She isn't the child or grandchild of the chosen one like Luke and Ren are. She is a genuine nobody who becomes somebody. The force in her wasn't some dormant power reawakening from some repressed memory, but the result of her hope and wonder. She never suddenly became a Jedi in the film, all her powers were raw and the result of feeling it out based on what she had observed and understood from myth.
Not that this precludes some later familial revelation or twist or what have you.
Bobby Roberts
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No, this is bullshit. Aftermath is typically considered "terrible" by bigoted pindicks. Star Wars fans seem kinda mixed on it, mostly due to Wendig's stylistic choices as a writer.
Also, "Lost Stars" by Claudia Gray seems to be the consensus pick as best new canon novel. Check that one out first.
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I think they missed an opportunity to have Rey actually want to leave Jakku to find out what happened to her parents. She even looked at an old lady doing the same thing as her, as if she knew she was wasting her time there. Instead, she tells Han she wants to go back to Jakku to wait for her family again as if she might miss their return. That was kind of silly.
Also it implies she remembers who her parents were, therefor not Luke.
Also it implies she remembers who her parents were, therefor not Luke.
I think that was the point. There's a reason he literally threw temper tantrums. I think he's supposed to undergo some serious changes as this goes along. Now that Han 'helped' him solve the 'conflict' he was having and he got his bitch ass kicked, I wonder what finishing his training will mean.
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
I just remember one of the Weasley twins being told by Snookie to grab Kylo.
I forgot his characters name I am sorry.
The force flashback showed her as a little girl and only showed a ship leaving; it's possible she doesn't know what her parents would even look like.
Driver gave the best performance in the film.
Yes, Aftermath is canon.
Disney's position is that anything that comes out now -- books, comics, games, etc. -- is to be considered canon on the same level as the films. This is in contrast to Lucas's position that ONLY the films were canon and everything else was non-canonical and could be dispensed with/ignored if he so wished.
Digital-Hero
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Similarly like I posted earlier. That is the huge strength of Ep7. Got rid of some baggage (Han) and basically opens up a ton of original possibilities for Ep8. Anything could happen and yes letting Skywalker die out is one. I doubt Kylo will turn good, even if he does he'll be sentenced to death by the New Republic/Resistance.
Sometime last year there was some casting discussion about an actress named Maisie Richardson-Sellers. IIRC it was thought she had a larger role in the film, but she was just in a brief shot of the crowd when the Starkiller weapon fires. IMDb says her name is 'Korr Sella'. Searched and found this:
Obviously some of that changed or was inaccurate speculation, but the gist was true - Sella was at a pub when the Starkiller weapon destroyed the planet. She seemed to be wearing some kind of Republic officer uniform.
Perhaps that character will be featured more heavily in a spinoff or other expanded material?
Obviously some of that changed or was inaccurate speculation, but the gist was true - Sella was at a pub when the Starkiller weapon destroyed the planet. She seemed to be wearing some kind of Republic officer uniform.
Perhaps that character will be featured more heavily in a spinoff or other expanded material?
Bobby Roberts
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Yeah.
It's okay. There's a decent 250 page story in there about a group of misfits coming togther to poke a thumb in the Empire's eye. Unfortunately there's about another 100 pages of ill-considered "interludes" that jam up the story's progression every other chapter.
Seriously, start with Lost Stars.
Then jump to the Lando comic, because it's fucking awesome.
rokkerkory
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I'd like to understand how the entire galaxy can really just sit back and let something like the First Order come to fruition after the GE was pretty much destroyed after ep6?
I understand the senate is compassionate towards the Resistance but like gave them no help? Handful of x-wings vs starkiller?
I understand the senate is compassionate towards the Resistance but like gave them no help? Handful of x-wings vs starkiller?
Rewatched tonight. So good. Caught a few things that I'm surprised I missed (the oceans/island comment and the ending...duh).
One thing I'll say, I don't normally go to theaters on opening weekend because I hate rude moviegoers. Last night I was pleasantly surprised at how respectful the audience was. Tonight, not so much. Wish I could force choke all the assholes that don't know it's not cool to talk during importance scenes.
Also, I really need some TFA Expanded Universe stuff in my veins like ASAP.
One thing I'll say, I don't normally go to theaters on opening weekend because I hate rude moviegoers. Last night I was pleasantly surprised at how respectful the audience was. Tonight, not so much. Wish I could force choke all the assholes that don't know it's not cool to talk during importance scenes.
Also, I really need some TFA Expanded Universe stuff in my veins like ASAP.
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Doubtful that they would take that approach. It feels like she was left there by people who had no choice, it's like if Luke left his daughter to Jabba, no way. I am increasingly doubting that she is Luke's daughter.
First new Trilogy Star Wars movie that hasn't brought any new remarkable soundtrack. Was kinda underwhelmed with the score of the movie. Even the goat remix of the trailer was not used sufficiently and always ended very abrupt.
Also, why didn't they give the silver trooper the "not-lightsaber"? The character was kinda pointless.
Also, why didn't they give the silver trooper the "not-lightsaber"? The character was kinda pointless.
ryutaro's mama
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Was I the only one that felt the squishy monsters on Han's ship, that whole sequence, felt like it belonged in Men In Black?
Anton Sugar
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It was like I was at Comic Con watching a sneak peek scene from a completely different movie.
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If you want to read a new Start Wars book make it Lost Stars!
Only thing that really bothered me about that sequence was the CGI on monsters looked really funky.
That entire sequence could have been dispensed with to give us a few more "character-driven" moments.
Low point of the movie. Tired of goofy cartoony looking monsters. Thankfully the rest of the various aliens and shit in the movie generally looked great.
Seventy_X_Seven
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I highly doubt Leia would sentence her son to death.
They are both on audible so I'll probably listen to them both. Lots of driving over the holidays.
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