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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 10: Against the Odds, We Choose to Hype!
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kuroneko0509
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Ahahaha those people from smashboards
http://imgur.com/a/8uTyh
http://imgur.com/a/8uTyh
balladofwindfishes
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I wonder if her final smash will be critical hit, or if they'll actually bother with a new one.
Miis and Lucina are the only new comers we don't know their final smashes for, right?
Miis and Lucina are the only new comers we don't know their final smashes for, right?
MagiusNecros
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IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Haha. Ike's comment is so perfect.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
Actually, come to think of it, the thing I want to know more than the roster is the stages. We have more characters than Brawl, we have more items, but stages we actually know very few of.
Including Battlefield and Final Destination, we only know 18 stages on both platforms, which is a lot less per game than Brawl and Melee had, and I guess I'm starting to feel that the decision to make the 3DS and WiiU versions have different stages is going to make each game have a lot less stages overall.
Including Battlefield and Final Destination, we only know 18 stages on both platforms, which is a lot less per game than Brawl and Melee had, and I guess I'm starting to feel that the decision to make the 3DS and WiiU versions have different stages is going to make each game have a lot less stages overall.
What I'm reading...
balladofwindfishes
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Oh wow, wasn't expecting each one to have their own FS. They really went all out to make Miis three unique fighters.
SliceSabre
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I cannot finish this.
IntelliHeath
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SaberVulcan
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Thats what I was thinking too. Background turns gray, she glows... wouldn't be surprised if it's the critical hit, and in that screenshot shes just holding it.
User 73706
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You don't say...
Wait, hearing Marth is what led him on to realizing he's a guy? He sounded pretty girly to me. Honestly, the only thing that led me to thinking Marth was a guy were the proportions and the name.
It's kind of interesting that this whole Newcomer debacle happened with Lucina. I wonder if they'll be introducing bite-sized content announcements alongside larger reveals with potential clones in the future. I don't necessarily mind the inclusion of clones as long as they're forward about it, and, hey - if you can have up to three different specials per character, you could potentially have two different clones on your hands. Something like this:
Original Character has Neutral Special 1, Up Special 1, Side Special 1, and Down Special 1, but also has Specials 2 and 3 available.
Clone 1 has Specials 2.
Clone 2 has Specials 3.
This would also be a pretty nice way of officially consolidating certain clones, for example the Space Animals. All of them have one another's Blaster variations, Flash options, etc. but Falco and Wolf would have the second and third variations as their default specials. It might be worth labeling said characters as clones, though. If they were just forward in their intent of keeping fan favorites in to please them on top of exploring those custom Specials in the event that competitive Smash 4 doesn't allow for them, I don't think I'd mind their inclusion as much. Honestly, I was really hoping Falco just became a Fox alt because I think the Smash team is trying to hard too make the two different with every installment, but an explicit "clone" label that noted Dark Pit, Lucina, Falco, Pichu, Noxus, etc. as such would be cool. I'm hoping Sakurai coming out and noting Lucina as an explicit Melee-style clone is likewise clarifying that not-quite-clones in Brawl are going out of their way to get more unique movesets, for example Luigi and Ganondorf.
balladofwindfishes
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Begs the question if each will have their own box on the character select screen.
If that's the case, a lot of mock ups and guess for the CSS set up will need to be adjusted
JediLink
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What I want to know is what Melee stages will be in. Yoshi's Story's gotta come back.
Hoping for Fountain of Dreams and Temple too. Maybe even Pokefloats.
On another note, since we're getting so close to the release date, I think this is when more and more actual legitimate leaks are going to start popping up amongst the fakes. That'll be something to look forward to.
Agreed. By now, you should know what the hell Fire Emblem is. Unless you were born yesterday.
I heard that it's confirmed they will share a slot (not sure where or by whom though)
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I'm pretty sure that they are trying to mask the dissapoontment of Rayman being trophy with newcomer trailer. However it got me curious if we will see any trophies from other third party companies. One thing bothered me is that they haven't put Ubisoft up on copyright title yet.
User 73706
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Another Fountain of Dreams orchestral arrangement needs to happen.
How the fuck did Sakurai manage a live chamber orchestra for Melee, but they're still using East West Native Instrument samples for the orchestral bits today? In the Charizard / Greninja reveal Direct, that main theme showcase right before those two reveals made it really glaring. You can get away with most of those samples, but the glockenspiels completely take me out of it.
I like the theory that Rayman, a Ubisoft property, was showcased right before Sakurai pimped equal-opportunity combat and two female alts, albeit one was a clone.
How the fuck did Sakurai manage a live chamber orchestra for Melee, but they're still using East West Native Instrument samples for the orchestral bits today? In the Charizard / Greninja reveal Direct, that main theme showcase right before those two reveals made it really glaring. You can get away with most of those samples, but the glockenspiels completely take me out of it.
I like the theory that Rayman, a Ubisoft property, was showcased right before Sakurai pimped equal-opportunity combat and two female alts, albeit one was a clone.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
No, I'm pretty sure that it would be special input button or single icon that would open the list of Mii to pick.
It's like three pokemon in one singe icon aka Pokemon Trainer.
What I want to know is what Melee stages will be in. Yoshi's Story's gotta come back.
Hoping for Fountain of Dreams and Temple too. Maybe even Pokefloats.
On another note, since we're getting so close to the release date, I think this is when more and more actual legitimate leaks are going to start popping up amongst the fakes. That'll be something to look forward to.
I want this,
In my modded brawl, despite being non video game related I always put this song over the stage
He's such a coward he can laugh
It was probably easier to manage orchestration for Melee's smaller, more focused score. Brawl still had live orchestra, it was just overshadowed by the vast amount of synth arrangements. I would have thought from Kid Icarus' quite large and mostly live score that this would have been less of a problem in SSB4, but it looks like it's just not a priority for them.
User 73706
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There are three different available archetypes, but at least for the purposes of the character select screen, "Mii Fighter" exists as one slot.
I don't understand why CSS predictions or whatever would be adjusted, on a related note. It'd make more sense just to place your cursor on Mii Fighter, then bring up like a sub menu for the Mii in particular you want to play as. It seems strange to do this for each of the three archetypes when it can simply be condensed into one icon.
edit: btw I just saw your response on this idea to someone else =p
balladofwindfishes
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With potentially 50 characters, beating Classic and All Star mode with every character is going to take awhile.
I think that's a hidden addition of clones, they add more single player content because they require another run through classic and all star modes.
Also I think Lucina will be unlockable. I think quite a few of the new comers we've seen will be (Palutena, Megaman and Pac Man). Still not sure where Mii and Greninja will fall, they could go either way imo for being unlockable. I think Marth is a starter now also (he's on the box)
I think that's a hidden addition of clones, they add more single player content because they require another run through classic and all star modes.
Also I think Lucina will be unlockable. I think quite a few of the new comers we've seen will be (Palutena, Megaman and Pac Man). Still not sure where Mii and Greninja will fall, they could go either way imo for being unlockable. I think Marth is a starter now also (he's on the box)
We need this just for Falcon dittos.What I want to know is what Melee stages will be in. Yoshi's Story's gotta come back.
Compositionally, I mostly agree, but I'm not sure if I'd prefer the GBA's legendarily shit sound synthesis over this.
...Actually, what did you think of Natsumi Kameoka's orchestrations for that soundtrack?
Pic of the day. Along with Robin, Lucina joins the battle!! Her physical ablilites are identical to Marth's--it must be in her D.N.A. However, where Marth's power is concentrated in the tip of the sword, Lucina's attack strength is balanced throughout the weapon, which might make her easier to control. She's also a little bit shorter than Marth.
With the Wii Fit Trainers, the male and female Robins, the Villagers, and Little Mac, varying their appearances and voices works just like selecting alternate color variations. However, whenever there is even a small difference in abilities, that character gets an actual roster slot. That is why you can select Lucina individually.
By the way there's probably no chance you'll be able to see this in the game, but Lucina has the mark of Naga in her left eye.
I still can't get over how good the Fire Emblem models are. They just all look great.
still waiting on that fighting game
I'm absolutely sure it will be full as shit of songs, don't worry. 3DS version will have a hundred tops though.
Anyway, we're at less than two months from release, and still no word about a special 3DS version for Sm4sh. Are you guys sure is going to happen?
kuroneko0509
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PadWarrior
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So corocoro is revealing the whole roster next month?
SnakeSlashRO
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Thats foolish, fire emblem being a JRPG in modern times isn't enough. The series haven't reached the popularity of the tales, or final fantasy series.
You have to remember smash reaches fans who are old school nintendo fans, not all of those fans play on current nintendo platforms. Fire Emblem really only began picking up popularity after melee. It doesn't have enough pull for fans who are not up on the latest from nintendo...
People may recognize marth, and maybe ike from the series, but unless they play or research the game future characters are probably lost on them too.
Was Dark Souls 1 Midi? Sometimes it sounded like it, but sometimes it sounded damn near close to an orchestra.
Maybe not.
This was what we learnt from their Brawl info back in the day:
http://www.gonintendo.com/s/30876-shiek-not-confirmed-for-brawl-corocoro-card-info
according to someone in that thread, they did something similar for Brawl, but only ended up showing stuff which was already officially announced. Don't get too excited.
PadWarrior
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IntelliHeath
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I wouldn't trust it 100% because they did same thing with Brawl with all announced characters and they never show any secret characters.
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