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Television Displays and Technology Thread: This is a fantasy based on OLED
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Maaaaaardy
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Insane IQ on this TV now I've done my settings, my game settings are the best, can't find anything good for ISF dark/light right now.
Anyone tell me a quick way to turn off HDR? It's automatically enabling it which is fine but not for COD! The lag is quite noticeable on Ratchet and Clank...thanks!!!
Anyone tell me a quick way to turn off HDR? It's automatically enabling it which is fine but not for COD! The lag is quite noticeable on Ratchet and Clank...thanks!!!
MosquitoSmasher
Member
Hey guys,
I have a LG OLED EC9300 and i absolutely love it. If my memory serves me correctly i have had this TV since late 2015 and i wish i could just stick with it. The thing is, i plan to buy a Pro next year and a Scorpio this year. Naturally i want to have all the benefits and thus i have decided to upgrade to a TV capable of 4K/HDR.
Some say once you go OLED you don't go back and after having seen several high end TV's now that are not OLED i have to agree. So it's going to be either the B6 or C6. Whichever has the better price. Unless things have changed and OLED doesn't provide the best inky black levels and image quality anymore, but it still does....doesn't it?
Have both C6 and B6 now received that input lag patch in all countries, in my case Holland?
I have a LG OLED EC9300 and i absolutely love it. If my memory serves me correctly i have had this TV since late 2015 and i wish i could just stick with it. The thing is, i plan to buy a Pro next year and a Scorpio this year. Naturally i want to have all the benefits and thus i have decided to upgrade to a TV capable of 4K/HDR.
Some say once you go OLED you don't go back and after having seen several high end TV's now that are not OLED i have to agree. So it's going to be either the B6 or C6. Whichever has the better price. Unless things have changed and OLED doesn't provide the best inky black levels and image quality anymore, but it still does....doesn't it?
Have both C6 and B6 now received that input lag patch in all countries, in my case Holland?
Art Vandilay
Member
Yeah I feel the same way. Makes me wonder if I should just wait for a B7.
My 65" has no such issues.
In the end, no matter what size there is a possibility for panel issues. No set is perfect.
Here's the proposal for the B6 that I've prepared for my wife:
Future proof (5 years) technology with OLED, 4K, real HDR, good for both gaming and watching movies.
Stand is reviewed as really sturdy, safer for the kids and fits well on our current set up without needing a trip to IKEA to upgrade our TV stand.
Simply a better TV for an insane value than waiting for the 55" KS8000 to drop to sub-$1000.
PayPal credit, pay half now and pay the rest off over the next six months.
No tax and no shipping cost.
I'm pretty sure she's already annoyed as all get out by my insane focus on making this happen since that deal was posted in here. I'll probably get a firm "no" accompanied with a blank stare during the entire discussion.
My standards for a TV have gone up a good bit in the past 24 hours, as a result of a trip to Best Buy to confirm my lust for the KS8000, along with seeing the LG B6 (to which my wife said, "Oh wow..") and realizing how far it was out of our price range, only to see this deal a few hours later.
Future proof (5 years) technology with OLED, 4K, real HDR, good for both gaming and watching movies.
Stand is reviewed as really sturdy, safer for the kids and fits well on our current set up without needing a trip to IKEA to upgrade our TV stand.
Simply a better TV for an insane value than waiting for the 55" KS8000 to drop to sub-$1000.
PayPal credit, pay half now and pay the rest off over the next six months.
No tax and no shipping cost.
I'm pretty sure she's already annoyed as all get out by my insane focus on making this happen since that deal was posted in here. I'll probably get a firm "no" accompanied with a blank stare during the entire discussion.
My standards for a TV have gone up a good bit in the past 24 hours, as a result of a trip to Best Buy to confirm my lust for the KS8000, along with seeing the LG B6 (to which my wife said, "Oh wow..") and realizing how far it was out of our price range, only to see this deal a few hours later.
Dave_6
Member
Other than a vertical band that is getting better with more and more use, my 65" B6 is flawless. I've had a 60" Pioneer Kuro since 2008 and I have had zero regrets buying this OLED. It's a spectacular display.
I'm using these settings with mine FWIW: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXwFi3E1K0g&t=338s
I'm using these settings with mine FWIW: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXwFi3E1K0g&t=338s
Rooting for you. Haha
Use eBates for an extra 2% off. (so like $28 back)
https://www.ebates.com/ebay?query=ebay&position=1&type=suggest&store=3993&navigation_id=23078
And if you use my referral link to sign up, you'll get an extra $10. PM me if you're up to it
finalflame
Member
Man, I'm happy I don't have to prepare a dossier in order to purchase a TV, lol.
Good luck dude! If i was your wife, I'd accept your points and give the go-ahead.
Traxtech
Member
Cod doesn't have hdr, so it won't be going into hdr mode anyway. Make sure you go into input settings and change the icon for the console to game console
Don't leave us hanging man. What did she say??
Nearly a week of enjoying my C6 and I can't stop using the thing every moment I get. Once you go OLED you can't go back. Using it for dual purposes:
PC work: How I have this setup is my taskbar auto-hides, solid black background and I resize the window of the app I'm using to whatever is most comfortable at close range (say at a desk) and its like I have a nice OLED monitor at 27 inches (or more or less, totally up to you!). It's way better then a multi monitor setup. It being 4K makes this very useable at close distances when you don't use DPI scaling and keep it at 100% scaling in Windows.
Gaming / Watching media: Sit back and enjoy the full 55 inches of OLED goodness, it's sooooo gooooood.
EDIT: I'm going to take pictures of my setup, so you guys can see how ridiculous it is!
EDIT2: Here it is, note my camera has a wide angle lens so its making my TV look way more curved then it actually is.
Click images to make them bigger.
So yeah, if you want to use these as PC monitors setting it up like this works great.
PC work: How I have this setup is my taskbar auto-hides, solid black background and I resize the window of the app I'm using to whatever is most comfortable at close range (say at a desk) and its like I have a nice OLED monitor at 27 inches (or more or less, totally up to you!). It's way better then a multi monitor setup. It being 4K makes this very useable at close distances when you don't use DPI scaling and keep it at 100% scaling in Windows.
Gaming / Watching media: Sit back and enjoy the full 55 inches of OLED goodness, it's sooooo gooooood.
EDIT: I'm going to take pictures of my setup, so you guys can see how ridiculous it is!
EDIT2: Here it is, note my camera has a wide angle lens so its making my TV look way more curved then it actually is.
Click images to make them bigger.
So yeah, if you want to use these as PC monitors setting it up like this works great.
Hey everyone, could you please help me out choosing the best option from the following 48-49" TVs?
I'm in South America so these all these TVs are within my price range.
I'm not interested in 4K, I don't have a PS4 Pro and I won't get one, not interested on 4K video either. I have a 4K monitor and that's all I need. However I added that 4K there because it might overall be better than the other ones, but please keep in mind that 4K does not make the TV better to me.
The TV will be in my room to be used for PS4, Switch and HD video.
Thanks for your help.
I'm in South America so these all these TVs are within my price range.
I'm not interested in 4K, I don't have a PS4 Pro and I won't get one, not interested on 4K video either. I have a 4K monitor and that's all I need. However I added that 4K there because it might overall be better than the other ones, but please keep in mind that 4K does not make the TV better to me.
The TV will be in my room to be used for PS4, Switch and HD video.
Thanks for your help.
Rooting for you. Haha
Use eBates for an extra 2% off. (so like $28 back)
https://www.ebates.com/ebay?query=ebay&position=1&type=suggest&store=3993&navigation_id=23078
And if you use my referral link to sign up, you'll get an extra $10. PM me if you're up to it
I think I used your referral link. Didn't read all the way through your post before I ordered.
Oh, and she said "yes" at the understanding that I'm under some major debt to clean the house (I already do most of the cleaning anyway, as she usually distracts the kids so I can).
So, I'm pretty stoked on this set.
ScaryShark
Banned
Congrats Kevin. I too had to have a similar conversation with my wife lol.
Terbinator
Member
B6 has gone back up to £2K at most place now in the UK - an indication of the 7s landing?
finalflame
Member
Congrats dude!
So, it says delivery by the 13th - 20th of March, but dang do I want to play Breath of the Wild on it.
I know BOTW is only 900p, but coming from a low-end Phillips 1080p from 2011 (was a wedding gift), this is going to be an insane jump.
The only TV I owned before the Phillips was a 720p Visio from 2007.
I know BOTW is only 900p, but coming from a low-end Phillips 1080p from 2011 (was a wedding gift), this is going to be an insane jump.
The only TV I owned before the Phillips was a 720p Visio from 2007.
Maaaaaardy
Member
Who knows, i'm glad I got mine for £1750 though
And whoever talked about Zelda on it, i'm playing the Wii U version on it. Dear God.
ScaryShark
Banned
It'll still be a significant upgrade because the black levels and color reproduction is so good.
Maaaaaardy
Member
Have done! Why, what does it do?
Oh, lol, I don't think that was a referral link, just the ebay info.
It's all good, enjoy the set!
Yeh, im not 100% satisfied since i want to own the TV for 5-8 years like my Pioneer Kuro.
Basically, it cant be seen in any content like movies or games at all. I cant see it in any panning shots either. There is some banding when i look at the 5% slide, slightly darker in the centre, but again, not visible on any content.
Only if im on youtube and its completely white. Or the grey login screen when i log into windows - then i can see the slight yellow tint on the left couple of inches. So its not all bad, just in very specific scenarios in which for me colour accuracy is not important.
If you plan to do photoshop work, you cant own the 65", get the 55 and even then its just as good as it gets rather than perfect.
I predict 2017 will be similar really.
Id like to see your 5% slide. They all have issues.
The yellow tint on the side of mine i am willing to live with only because the rest of my panel is actually quite good.
Most have very bad vignetting on the right sides.
Again i dont notice it on any content except the yellow tint which is only on a forum/youtube.
PLASTICA-MAN
Member
Dolby Vision HDR may be coming to a game console near you
If it supports HDM 1.4 and is software based, will it support older UHD TVs from 2015 which have HDR8 (by firmware update)? How far is it comparable to HDR10 of TVS that support it?
If it supports HDM 1.4 and is software based, will it support older UHD TVs from 2015 which have HDR8 (by firmware update)? How far is it comparable to HDR10 of TVS that support it?
Insane Metal
Gold Member
Soooo... Samsung's Q7, Q8 and Q9 are coming this week. And still no word about these sets. :/
I wanna see the reviews. I'd be happy if they're a good upgrade from the KS8K/9K.
I wanna see the reviews. I'd be happy if they're a good upgrade from the KS8K/9K.
PLASTICA-MAN
Member
I was wondering the same too.
holygeesus
Banned
Tinting is present in all of these sets to some degree. They are designed to be slightly brighter on the left and right extremes to combat vignetting, which is far more distracting a problem.
What does seem improved on the 2017 sets, judging by early looks at the Panasonic and Sony OLEDs is motion - Sony are putting in BFI and Philips are apparently using some kind of backlight scanning. All signs point to these 2017 models being damn fine televisions.
Yup i agree.
On my ISF Dark, i have pretty much negated the yellow tint on the left with the High point colour balance, just reduced red+green and upped blue.
Thats why i notice it on PC, because we cant tweak that in game mode.
My panel was definitly not new either, it had been returned as there are fingerprints on the bottom of the screen that are too fat to be mine. I got it from costco so i havbe 90 days either way.
I was at my friends house yesteday who has a sony led, its motion was miles better than the LG, its unfortunate. The LG is a bit more raw lets put it that way. The only content i have found unwatchable is Sky F1 HD, the panning is full of stutter, every 1-2 seconds.
Maaaaaardy
Member
I'm still messing with settings, I am not the greatest calibrator of TV's I will admit, fairly clueless! Bit of stutter watching football streaming on the Sky App (Before I get the Sky Q deal) I have even turned TruMotion on but its still there a bit. Rather annoying!
Help?
Help?
Unknown Soldier
Member
There's no such thing as a perfect TV.
MosquitoSmasher
Member
If i want to use Trumotion, sometimes for a racing game but especially Netflix when things can look slightly juddery on my EC9300....what are some good custom settings for Trumotion?
Unknown Soldier
Member
This is awful, it's like having an edge-lit LED LCD TV. What's even the point of spending all the money on an OLED if you get uniformity like an LCD?
Riskbreaker23
Member
I pulled the trigger on the Adorama B6. I was trying to wait for the B7 or the new samsung qleds but that price was too good to pass up. Now i need to buy a new receiver.
One of us!
holygeesus
Banned
It's not really much use judging these sets from 5% slides. Any image retention will show in that scenario unless tested immediately following a compensation cycle. In terms of uniformity these sets blow away any LCD.
KharmaPolice
Member
Keep in mind that the above grey uniformity pictures are highly overexposed. Viewed live a 5% grey slide is close to black and non uniformity issues aren't nearly as noticeable as in those screens. Unless you have bad luck with pronounced vertical bands those issues will be hard to spot in any actual content.
holygeesus
Banned
Agreed. My own two personal tests are fast moving sports with rapid horizontal pans e.g. football and a 'grey' game like 'Inside'. If I don't notice bands on either of those I never will. I've not seen an LCD yet that passes my football test.
Insane Metal
Gold Member
Damn, Bear
Just had my second B6 crap out on me.
Really not sure what to do now. It's a beautiful TV, but I've had two faulty units in the space of a month. I'm really worried about getting a third, not sure if I should cut my losses and just get a refund :/
That is a bit worrying a I am expecting my first.
Unknown Soldier
Member
Ha, I know exactly what you mean too with the football test. It's super easy to spot non-uniformity when watching football, the American or the international variety.
It's good to know that these photos aren't representative of what you can normally see though.
Thebeardofknowledge
Banned
these are final launch prices and dates
OLED55C7P $3,499 Week of 2/27
OLED65C7P $4,499 Week of 2/27
OLED55E7P $4,499 Week of 4/1
OLED65E7P $5,999 Week of 3/20
OLED65G7P $6,999 Week of 3/27
OLED77G7P $16,999 Week of 4/24
OLED65W7P $7,999 Week of 2/27
OLED77W7P $19,999 Week of 6/26
OLED55C7P $3,499 Week of 2/27
OLED65C7P $4,499 Week of 2/27
OLED55E7P $4,499 Week of 4/1
OLED65E7P $5,999 Week of 3/20
OLED65G7P $6,999 Week of 3/27
OLED77G7P $16,999 Week of 4/24
OLED65W7P $7,999 Week of 2/27
OLED77W7P $19,999 Week of 6/26
molnizzle
Member
Thebeardofknowledge
Banned
The B7 is a copy of the 2016 B6 and will be exclusively made for Costco. So i don't have a price or launch date
Wait, what?
molnizzle
Member
Say what now?