Rhazer Fusion
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I thought there was an OLED B6 firmware update for the supposed screen tearing and game mode recently. Looking for it on the site, but I cannot find it. Does anyone know if there a recent update?
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Television Displays and Technology Thread: This is a fantasy based on OLED
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Insane Metal
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NYR
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Enjoy the slanted TVs then, doesn't bother me at all that people will buy them. I do look forward to the reviews when it is revealed Sony is years away from getting OLED right better than the competitors especially the leader in LG. No one is going to nail it the first go around, not with the lead LG has. Sony may have experience with OLED but not at a mass consumer level. Just my opinion, if I'm wrong, I'll be the first to admit it.
BriareosGAF
Member
Picked up a new Marantz that supports 4K/HDR, new monoprice cert'd cables, new UPS as my old pure sine wave kicked the bucket last year. Now I sit and vacillate between a B6 and C7, flipping every few hours. Tick tock.
BigWeather
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Very good points. However, just checked Costco again and it looks like they only have the curved KS8000 (UN65KS850DFXZA) -- don't know if I misread earlier but I could swear they had the non-curved version. Ugh. I may swing by the store and ensure they don't have it before resorting to Amazon.
Edit: They do have the UN65KS900DFXZA, but at nearly $2000.
This honestly reads like a console wars style post. Sony has been working on developing OLED for over a decade. In fact I remember they had the first OLED consumer market television back in like 2007. They also used OLED in their Vita etc. They just don't produce panels cheaper than LG right now which is why they are using an LG panel. A lot of manufacturers sometimes buy panels from others ie. Sharp, Toshiba, Samsung etc.
Again, the Sony AE1 is not a mass consumer device. It is a flagship. It will utilize their latest cutting edge technologies. Their image processing will easily beat LG's if they are using the 4K X1 Extreme. Again, this isn't to say the Sony will be better but from what I have read people are saying it is easily one of the best pictures they have seen in OLED and definitely the brightest. Let's see the reviews though.
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/sony-bravia-a1e
Unknown Soldier
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Okay, let's see if you keep your word and be the first to admit it if you are proven wrong.
It's going to use the X1 Extreme. I think that's already been confirmed.
Sanctuary
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Chances are, if someone is going to be able to even afford one of those TVs, they're going to have a mounting solution anyway. No slant. Personally, I'm just glad that OLED in general is being adopted by more than just a few manufacturers. When Panasonic dropped out of making plasmas a few years ago, and with OLED still being cost prohibitive, it seemed like it would be a while before affordable OLEDs would be available (so no real successor to the plasmas) and that it could potentially stall before getting out of the gates. Doesn't appear to be the case at all now.
Unknown Soldier
Member
Well I mean the dumb bookstand has standard hardware for wall mounting, so your can attach your own stand to the set. The design is stupid but you can fix it yourself. Hopefully in 2018 when I'm planning to buy they will have come to their senses and use a normal design, and also support HDMI 2.1 + Game Mode VRR.
Thebeardofknowledge
Banned
As an LG OLED owner, I'm pretty confident the Sony A1E will be better than LG's offerings in terms of picture processing, at the least. The X1 Xtreme processor is really good and this isn't Sony's first rodeo with OLED. It's not like they just discovered the tech 6 months ago.
In terms of input latency, smart TV OS experience etc, I think LG will probably be on top.
In terms of input latency, smart TV OS experience etc, I think LG will probably be on top.
rand0mZer0
Banned
I just bought a 65-inch LG C6 and getting it wall mounted. I also have a PS4 Pro and a Switch in the room I'm gonna put it in. It's arriving this Thursday.
I am super excited.
I am super excited.
Honestly I wouldn't have an issue IF and WHEN the Sony gets reviewed you come to an informed conclusion -- how the 2017 OLEDs perform, motion handling, etc there obviously will be a clear winner. My only issue and why I gave you a little shit for it is that you are giving recommendations BEFORE reviews for all the sets have come in, and did so in an inflammatory fashion. Have you even seen either TV in person so at the very least you can pass of what you wrote as an impression? Hell for all we know the Panasonic might be best.
Enjoy! It even makes sub-1080p content look amazing. Zelda looks great.
rand0mZer0
Banned
Awesome! I can't wait. I also have a DirecTV mini genie so I'll be able to watch my sports and such on this behometh.
I'm gonna get a sound bar in the summer since I only had enough for the TV. I'm currently looking at the Sony HT-ST5000 and if the reviews are good, I'll definitely pick it up. I was also thinking Sonos but we'll see.
Processing and killer design.
jstevenson
Sailor Stevenson
for sure. WebOS > Android TV for sure. LG OLEDs are terrific terrific smart TVs
holygeesus
Banned
This. Android TV is horrible.
I fully expect the Sony A1E to better the LG 2017 models, just as I predict the Philips OLED will and the Panasonic. I wouldn't touch an LG TV other than this B6 I bought because it was the only consumer panel available, for reasonable money, at the time, but IMO all the other companies producing OLED sets, just produce better TVs in general. However, you are going to be paying more for all of them.
It still disappoints me that LG haven't improved motion in the 2017 sets. Both Sony and Philips have done so with their efforts.
I should amend - its $3800 - and for some reason I remember it being 3500 - perhaps there was a discount or sale that is no longer active. In any case - its 3800 here and that not too far off the mark for a 65 inch.
http://www.eastcoasttvs.com/Sony-XBR-Z9D-Series-65-Class-4K-Smart-LED-TV-p/xbr65z9d.htm
Unknown Soldier
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Are these people authorized Sony retailers?
edit:
Nope, they are shady borderline scammers
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/198-p...deals/1477270-east-coast-tv-s-experiment.html
This is why I didn't believe the price, don't buy from these assholes
What adjustments did you do yourself to enhance black detail? I have figured out that you can turn up brightness to 51 in standard hdr mode and 52 in game mode before you lose the perfect blacks. I have not adjusted the IRE settings since I do not want to mess up the colours and I have not access to tools that can check if everything is alright.
Endorphineforeverybody
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Wasn't in the article from whathifi rumored that the price for the pany (ez952) is 2.5k for the 55?
http://www.whathifi.com/panasonic/tx-55ez952/review
Do we know the price for b7, c7?
holygeesus
Banned
I thought I read the Panny was 5K?
mitchman
Gold Member
Only for the US models. The Euro models will get the firmware upgrade in March according to LG. Waiting for it myself although the input lag does not bother me now.
Prisoner KSC2-303
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That rumoured price for the 55EZ952 is why I'm holding fire. If they marry up the benefits of OLED with the processing on their 2016 flagship LCDs then it could be a bargain.
Hopefully the UK price will be reasonable.
Hopefully the UK price will be reasonable.
Rhazer Fusion
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Nice choice. The Marantz AV receiver is excellent. I got an NR1607 and it's amazing. That combined with an OLED is the ultimate home theater imho. I probably need some new speakers though. They sound quite good for their age, but that's the problem. The speakers are so old I am probably holding back the Marantz a little as great as it sounds.
Rhazer Fusion
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I got a US model actually. Did not see it anywhere online or the LG web site. Wish I could just do it from the TV.
Endorphineforeverybody
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Idk but from the article:
"With a proposed price of 2500, the TX-55EZ952 isnt cheap, but considering its packed with almost all of the cutting-edge 4K HDR technology found in the flagship EZ1002 OLED, we wouldnt be surprised if it proves to be Panasonics most popular OLED screen."
Mr. Wonderful
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It's pretty awful, though I'm still waiting to (hopefully even get at this point) get the Marshmallow update on my Sony 930D.
LG Technician ordered a new panel, will be here by the end of the week.
Hoping that I've made the right decision on which path to go down with this situation.
With some sort of compensation from Adorama, I believe that I will eventually have this TV (within the next couple of weeks), while any other scenario would have me getting a cheaper set and not getting an OLED.
Situation sucks, but so far LG's customer service has been pretty stellar.
Hoping that I've made the right decision on which path to go down with this situation.
With some sort of compensation from Adorama, I believe that I will eventually have this TV (within the next couple of weeks), while any other scenario would have me getting a cheaper set and not getting an OLED.
Situation sucks, but so far LG's customer service has been pretty stellar.
holygeesus
Banned
Have to admit I would have only accepted a return. That looked like it had taken a fair drop during transit. Is the warped gap in the back being sorted too?
I can still make out a small gap, but the technician already took it off and put it back on, and putt it back on better than it was. At the end of the day, I will have a perfectly functioning panel, it just might take more time.
I can't afford anything more than the $1400 I've already paid. My options are limited, and a full refund would certainly get me my $1400 back, but I want this TV, and $1400 is not going to get me this TV.
The whole thing sucks and I'm second guessing every single decision I'm making with it.
Edit: Just checked my Repair Track through LG, and it looks like the Technician has essentially ordered an entirely new set, just as individual pieces.
Haven't done it myself, just read about it.
holygeesus
Banned
You won't mess up the colours if making only small adjustments. Try
5 IRE +5
10 IRE +4
15 IRE +3
20 IRE +2
25 IRE +1
And see how you get on. They are only small adjustments, but I prefer slightly less shadow detail and no dancing blacks.
blastprocessor
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finalflame
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Do people really not think the B6 will be $1399 ever again, even with the C7 and B7 launch around the corner and the fact that other retailers also have to drain their stock? The B6/C6 will definitely drop again, probably at major retailers and elsewhere where stock is still plentiful to make way for 2017 stock.
With that said, I've been enjoying the conversation surrounding the A1E over the last page or so. I look forward to it being officially out so we can get full hands-on reviews and impressions. If it's generally ahead of the B7/E7, I'll definitely be gunning for it.
Also, I like the slightly slanted design
With that said, I've been enjoying the conversation surrounding the A1E over the last page or so. I look forward to it being officially out so we can get full hands-on reviews and impressions. If it's generally ahead of the B7/E7, I'll definitely be gunning for it.
Also, I like the slightly slanted design
Do people really not think the B6 will be $1399 ever again, even with the C7 and B7 launch around the corner and the fact that other retailers also have to drain their stock? The B6/C6 will definitely drop again, probably at major retailers and elsewhere where stock is still plentiful to wake way for 2017 stock.
With that said, I've been enjoying the conversation surrounding the A1E over the last page or so. I look forward to it being officially out so we can get full hands-on reviews and impressions. If it's generally ahead of the B7/E7, I'll definitely be gunning for it.
Also, I like the slightly slanted design
I'm not confident we will see the price at $1400 again.
If I were, I'd have jumped at the refund from Adorama. A lot of what I've been reading gives off the impression that big retailers won't drop below $1800.
BriareosGAF
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Yeah, I used to roll with Onkyo's back in the day but had some issues with bad capacitors and while it was tempting to fix them by hand I ended up switching to Marantz and haven't had any issues. I'm only driving some weird Dana L/Rs, and an HTD center and powered sub, but it all sounds quite nice. I also have some Grado SR1000s when I want that sort of experience, hooked up to a Parasound to drive them.
Probably very? This will be their OLED flagship. No way Sony doesn't go balls to the wall with their OLED televisions. A lot of manufacturers share panels or buy from a specific company so it isn't a question of not being able to do anything. Things like television build, image and sound processing, they all have an effect.
Sharp of Japan and Hon Hai of Taiwan supplied panels to companies like Hisense and Samsung. Now compare the quality and image between the two even for their budget and flagship models.
finalflame
Member
I think you're doing the right thing for your situation in particular, you already got a great price, and especially since you already have the set and want it setup as soon as possible, a sentiment I totally empathize with (I'd probably be doing the same if I were you). I'm sure LG will take care of you.
But B6/C6 prices have nowhere to go now but down. Yes, $1399 was a fantastic deal, but we'll see it happen again at other retailers that still have B6/C6 stock as it'll get harder to sell/move as the 2017 sets start rolling in, and they only have so much inventory/warehouse space. We were seeing insane deals on 2015 OLEDs up until the holiday season last year (2016) at the lowest prices they have ever been.
Anyways, I don't have a horse in this race unless the A1E reviews mediocrely. The more I look at it and think about my history with Sony TVs, the more I want it and am confident Sony is going to blow it out of the water.
holygeesus
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Stock levels must be running pretty low now, so I wouldn't expect massive discounts of the 2016 range. At least new ones.
finalflame
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https://slickdeals.net/e/8881599-fr...hd-smart-oled-3d-tv-1488-tax-after-promo-code
2015 OLEDs still on sale in June 2016. There are tons of examples closer to, and during the holidays, too.
B6/C6 will be $1400 again, no question about it.
They will still go on sale, but don't expect any massive sales with a lot of units. You may see them on clearance at your local shops or in small numbers through eBay or other sites.
yeah but I fear that the 65 inch one never see any sort of significant discount. Lowest ever it's been has been around $2300. I need that $1,900 price!
mikezilla2
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how are these Oleds for browseing the Web ie windows 10 ?
Just a bit of lite reading on what's happening with my B6.
https://lg.encompass.com/shop/model_research_docs/?file=/ZEN/sm/OLED55B6PU.pdf
https://lg.encompass.com/shop/model_research_docs/?file=/ZEN/sm/OLED55B6PU.pdf
Basically, I found the Service Manual they use to make repairs or replace entire units. Mine falls under Appendix 1/2, the first picture. "Exchange the module."