lordfuzzybutt
Member
Looks like we need this every page.
Do not bother, those people will refuse to read and resort to their own limited thinking. What have the last 10 pages seemed to indicate?
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The Witcher 3 Expansion Pass announced - $25
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Do not bother, those people will refuse to read and resort to their own limited thinking. What have the last 10 pages seemed to indicate?
This was their stance in 2012 too.
It is different, they've said all along that the smaller packs would be free while the huge content expansions would cost money. $25 for 30+ hours is an incredible deal IMO.
Witcher 3 is co-published by WB.
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
So basically they have 16 cosmetic (for the most part) DLC for free (yeah, thanks) to bust pre-orders of the base game and just so not to delay the game again before release in may, they decided to cut some content out of it cuz it won't be finished closer to release in may and sell it as a paid DLC, completely forgetting what was said earlier about this whole paid DLC thing.
I'd say most of the fans are, but CDPR isn't just relying on their core fanbase any more. When you go full on mainstream/AAA, you have to start being a lot smarter about how you go about situations, or you end up in a situation like they are right now.
I'm hype as all fuck about TW3, but it's just disappointing to see them fumble like this so close to the finish line. They either were naive enough to think the internet at large would understand this, or they put money before sensibility, in either case I think it's a silly move, especially for a developer like CDPR.
Hush now, don't embarrass yourself any further.
Except that people defend all those companies too from the same irrational outrage. I'm pretty sure the Netherealm thread went exactly the same way this one has.
silver moose
Member
Sounds good to me.
It would be insane for me to think that this much content should be free.
I know plenty of people who have paid way more that $25 for an entire game that wasn't 10 hours.
If anything, $25 for two expansions is pretty reasonable,
Even more so if the 10 and 20 hour comments are fairly accurate.
I can see the anger if they suddenly said "oh, nevermind, those 16 DLC packs are 99 cents each now."
It would be insane for me to think that this much content should be free.
I know plenty of people who have paid way more that $25 for an entire game that wasn't 10 hours.
If anything, $25 for two expansions is pretty reasonable,
Even more so if the 10 and 20 hour comments are fairly accurate.
I can see the anger if they suddenly said "oh, nevermind, those 16 DLC packs are 99 cents each now."
Anton Sugar
Member
I think some posters are being purposefully obtuse when they claim that expansion packs are technically DLC--right, of course, it is content that you download--but I've always viewed them as separate. Then again, maybe some people have always considered all DLC to be equal.
DLC, to me, are additions to the existing game that are smaller in scope. Expansion packs actually expand the game's scope, features, or universe.
Maybe that's just the old PC dude in me. Shit, even Battlefield 2 drew distinctions between Booster Packs and Expansion Packs.
DLC, to me, are additions to the existing game that are smaller in scope. Expansion packs actually expand the game's scope, features, or universe.
Maybe that's just the old PC dude in me. Shit, even Battlefield 2 drew distinctions between Booster Packs and Expansion Packs.
His Majesty
Banned
How dare they give away free stuff to boost their sales!
Maybe lets wait and see first. If the expansion stories are self contained it would be very unlikely that they got cut from the main game.
Also:
loooool, do you have any idea how freaking entitled you sound?
robertsan21
Member
Yeah I wont buy the DLC until I know its good obviously. but why I am so positive about DLC like this is because its different from the rest of the shitty DLC we have been getting from various studios that are clearly just money grabbing.
CDPR is giving us 16 dlc for free and selling a 10 and 20 hours worth of DLC 6 months after the game is released. Now thats the proper way of doing DLC for a game and I am willing to pay for it if it turns out to be good gameplay, and I am kind of sure it will be.
silver moose
Member
This is the distinction people fail to make.
Take the Dragon Age games for example, is the $14.99 Jaws of Hakkon DLC the same as the Awakening expansion for DA:O?
No, no it isn't and you wouldn't expect it to be. You also wouldn't expect Awakening to be 14.99 like JoH is.
silvermember
Banned
They didn't fumble. They were as clear as they could possibly, the few internet nutjobs are over reacting which is par for the course.
Youre still spouting this and you've been i this thread long enough to actually be informed. The game has been feature complete since February and youre going to say they cut 30+ hours from the game? Please, just go make more "pirate" comments elsewhere.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I like the sound of this. Gonna get in on this.
hemo memo
Gold Member
Looks like we need this every page.
I respect that. My only problem with this (like many here) is the timing.
Do you have that quote as well?
Just goes to show that Capcom could've made SFxTK a success with just minor PR-based adjustments: locking default gem packs behind DLC ("16 free DLC") and moving the locked on-disc content to its servers ("Expansion Pass").
For the record, I've preordered Witcher 3 (and purchased both W1 and W2 in the past).
For the record, I've preordered Witcher 3 (and purchased both W1 and W2 in the past).
He is a god damned buffoon. His post is a highly potent concoction of all the fucking idiocy in this thread. He doesn't deserve a reply from you.
BabyFaceKillah
Member
ill pay $25 for 30+ hours
Turin Turambar
Member
But, isn't a bit pathetic that people prefer to not know information than to know? It seems people want to live in their happy place of ignorance.
I mean, the expansion was going to be done, it doesn't really matter if it's announced now or in three months.
From May 2011.
http://www.giantbomb.com/articles/the-witcher-2-dlc-wont-cost-you-a-dime-but-expansi/1100-3203/
Took like 5 seconds to find on Google.
People has their panties in a bunch because they are not giving out 30 hours of content for free. Like what the fuck. The majority of full retail games don't have that much content. What a world we live in. "Ah who gives a shit we are getting 16 pieces of DLC for free" I want more because I am entitled to it. They can do whatever the hell they want to do, they have earned it as a developer who is more in touch with gamers than most any other large dev. People are going to sour them on this and maybe next time they won't give shit about free content because why would they?
robertsan21
Member
I agree, I dont get the "timing" issue at all.
its 30 hours for less than a full game, hell The Order was 6 hours and it was a full game that people paid for.... yikes.
Timing is important in life. Announcing it now might make a lot of sense from a businesses perspective, but as you can tell in this thread it can create bad optics.
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
Not most actually, but because of the events of the last year it soon will be the most I think, which is really sad thing cuz 90% of gamers here can't afford to buy games at these prices, and nobody seem to care about this.
You just don't understand that I live in other country and if 36$ sounds good for you, it doesn't mean that it sounds good for me, cuz it really isn't. I can't afford to buy base game and this expansion set (for the price of which I can buy 5 full games right now on Steam). Is this really that hard to believe and understand? I just like most of you I think can't buy all new games for the full price (which is right now and for my country is ~1200 RUB for the most big games, not all of them, but most), I can't afford to buy Batman: Arkham Knight, MKX and Witcher 3 even within period of 3 months and even if the price for them is much lower that in NA and UE, so I have to buy only one of them and wait for a sale to get the other two.
That is your right.
Well, they have to make them self contained now, cuz they have no other choice.
I don't care about cosmetic DLC even if they are offered for free, they have no value for me.
There was only one comment in the whole thread and I already said that I have no intention to pirate the game. It should be very clear now that it was said on emotions, sometimes I just can't hold myself...
But that quote doesn't include the exact hours that this content ended up being.
There is no such thing as a timing issue. Clearly there is research to announcing future content in games otherwise we would not see every single game do it this way. They are telling buyers that they will be making more content for a game they like, hence enticing them to keep the game and not trade it in. There are other factors too of course. They are running a business here first and foremost.
People overreacting aside, it's still not a sensible move besides the business aspect of it.
They could have saved this announcement for late-June (Maybe before Arkham Knight took the spotlight), they would be in the middle of releasing constant Free DLC updates and presuming that TW3 is as great a game as it looks, the buzz around the game would still be very much alive.
There would be much less potential for backlash, they might have picked up a few more base game sales (Lots of people in this thread saying that they'll now just wait for a GOTY edition) and it all would have seemed like a more natural flow.
I guess it's up for personal opinion, but I do believe they've fumbled on this one (Although minor). However as I said, at the end of the day it's going to be the quality of the content that matters, and if solid, this (relatively minor) misstep probably won't even be remembered.
Jesus Christ
Dude they had this planned or else the statement would have been the same. The last quote gives a specific size to qualify as an expansion.
Trogdor1123
Gold Member
If tis good, I will pay for it. I see not issue with this at all. Good money for good content.
lordfuzzybutt
Member
Well "bad" is relative. There are as many people defending it as people bashing it.
Think about it, you said yourself that it makes sense business wise, so as long as they get more sales, what is stopping them from doing this? I want them to do things this way so that the game get more sales than it will after the hype has deflated.
His Majesty
Banned
That quote refers to their plans regarding The Witcher 2. Their stance on DLC and expansions has always been the same.
Developers aren't rolling a dice to determine the amount of play time you'll get out of some content. That's easily planned.
Papacheeks
Banned
They showed a freaking trailer and that was after the May Fiasco where the whole DRM thing lead up to E3.
Seriously what's your point? A lot of games were already on board with consoles for their games regardless of DRM or not.
And to my knowledge a lot of developers and smaller publishers didn't even know about it till the story broke. EA, UBISOFT and activision were the ones somewhat involved in the DRM fiasco.
Even so they have been mostly a PC developer use to the more open environment, they have a lot more control over distribution, on consoles they really don't. It's closed eco-system.
Eurogamer Article on CDRED stance E3 2013
Anton Sugar
Member
It feels like CDPR is Larry David and everyone is getting mad at him for not following a social contract/convention.
"They're already working on it! Everyone knows, so why not just tell? You know already, what's the harm in telling?"
"They're already working on it! Everyone knows, so why not just tell? You know already, what's the harm in telling?"
Yep all I said was they had this planned when the gave that last quote.
No, that's not what I said.