Just went through Witcher and Witcher 2 for the first time, beating the latter tonight. I'm so in love with the world, characters and story that I ordered all the books that have been released in English on Amazon. A month ago this was a neat looking game that I was somewhat interested in. Now my hype levels are off the fucking charts.
Excellent mate!
This is exactly why people should play the first 2 games, as much as CDPR wants to throw the, "You don't need to play the first 2 games" line around, they are still so well worth playing.
Sure, there'll be some folk who get turned off by the combat in one or both games, but when it clicks, it's a world that you'll just completely fall in love with. It also makes it even more special because you don't play the games and just run out, there's all that rich lore in the books to then go back and discover. It's magical.
The combat looks terrible as ever. Yikes.
Making the combat look and feel right should have been a way higher priority than a world the size of jupiter.
Yeah, fuck nilfgard a witcher is supposed to be neutral but nilfgard = bad guys.
Not really. One has to read the books to see the bigger picture.
I'm sure TW3 will change your perception of the Nilfgaard too.
I really disliked the combat of Witcher 1 but everything else was good enough to keep me going and by the end I was really glad I played it. Witcher 2 was a treat on all fronts and I actually really liked the combat as well as everything else. Hope my books get delivered soon!
Maybe for you.
Looks ok to me. I'm glad it's pretty arcade instead of souls tedious style.
Arcade would mean it's quick to react with fast, short moves and immediate precision.
This just looks like the same janky combat TW2 had. Press button for a ridiculous flourishing move locked into a slide forward. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat.
Where's the button for a simple slash, or a backstep + thrust, or quick hits that don't take away control for an exaggerated animation for no reason.
The hit reactions look just as bad. It looks like interpretive dance with both combatants just jerkily sliding around the battlefield.
Arcade would mean it's quick to react with fast, short moves and immediate precision.
This just looks like the same janky combat TW2 had. Press button for a ridiculous flourishing move locked into a slide forward. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat.
Where's the button for a simple slash, or a backstep + thrust, or quick hits that don't take away control for an exaggerated animation for no reason.
The hit reactions look just as bad. It looks like interpretive dance with both combatants just jerkily sliding around the battlefield.
I really disliked the combat of Witcher 1 but everything else was good enough to keep me going and by the end I was really glad I played it. Witcher 2 was a treat on all fronts and I actually really liked the combat as well as everything else. Hope my books get delivered soon!
As I said looks ok to me. It's fast and dancy.
Also how the hell do you know everything about it looking at some videos? How do you know how the combat evolves when leveling up? Because you are unlocking moves while you progress.
I don't treat this game as some kind of medieval combat simulator. I loved Morrowind despite it's god awful combat. So yeah, people expecting souls and bloodborne should just play these if combat for them is most important.
Actually I'm super happy that it's not souls combat, I wouldn't bare it. So yeah, thanks CDP.
Arcade would mean it's quick to react with fast, short moves and immediate precision.
This just looks like the same janky combat TW2 had. Press button for a ridiculous flourishing move locked into a slide forward. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat.
Where's the button for a simple slash, or a backstep + thrust, or quick hits that don't take away control for an exaggerated animation for no reason.
The hit reactions look just as bad. It looks like interpretive dance with both combatants just jerkily sliding around the battlefield.
He is also a character with his own history, including an extensive personal one with nilfgaard.Yeah, fuck nilfgard a witcher is supposed to be neutral but nilfgard = bad guys.
I'm glad it's enough for you.
Thing is, for me personally, i'm not slogging through a dozens-of-hours RPG if the combat is bland and soulless. Especially not for a two-bit storyline that's delivered through stilted NPC interactions.
It's why I couldn't go past the first few hours of TW2.
On the other hand, I played 30+ hours and finished Dragon's Dogma solely because of the fantastic combat. Loved every minute of it. Combat felt rewarding, interactive, varied and engaging. The boss fights were great and something to look forward to.
So while I understand this is a personal thing, but i'm really disappointed that they didn't seem to pour much love into the gameplay side of things.
I really want to get into the Witcher games, but it's a shame CDPR seem to have their priorities aligned different to mine.
Yep... the writing and voice acting seems pretty shitty.Not feeling those dialogs. It's like watchdogs ye olde edition.
Sigh....why must people bash one thing because they like another? Nothing tedious about souls, especially bloodborne.Maybe for you.
Looks ok to me. I'm glad it's pretty arcade instead of souls tedious style.
The Souls comparisons make me cringe. Transplanting something that works piecemeal is sort of underselling why it works to begin with. The Witcher's combat, being specifically designed for the game, ought to serve it far better.
Not feeling those dialogs. It's like watchdogs ye olde edition.
Yep... the writing and voice acting seems pretty shitty.
He is helping Emperor Emhyr , the (major book spoiler)GERALT!!!
How can you possibly collaborate with the Nilfgardians?!
But CDP are like the European Valve, seeing as they own GoG
Pretty funny how companies what own distribution platforms for other devs and publishers make the best games
Lol, sure it does.
The lighting is excellent. High precision high dynamic range image based lighting with physically based materials is about as good as it gets right now.
Well said. I really like the Souls games, but I'm getting sick of the over-the-top hyperbolic worship of those games. They're good, but they're definitely not perfect. It's ridiculous the way some diehard Souls fans go around shitting on every other game and acting like the only possible way for these games to be good is if they adopt the mechanics from the Souls games.
I don't agree. I like what I'm seeing of the combat of The Witcher 3 and I think it's more fitting for the game and what we know about Geralt and his fighting style.
A few people keep saying things like "it doesn't look weighty or visceral like the Souls games"..."it doesn't look responsive"..."the hit responses suck" --and I'm left scratching my head and wondering if they're watching the same game as I am.
The Witcher 3's combat looks very responsive and visceral to my eyes. And the hit responses actually look more precise, realistic and better animated. Enemies in Bloodborne, for example, kind of just slide around as if they were on ice skates when they get hit. It's arcadey and poorly animated. I appreciate how the enemies in The Witcher 3 get knocked back and actually stagger unsteadily backwards on their feet with nicely animated movements.
In case you didn't notice, he provided gifs when you clearly see this skating effect in BB.There is also numerous flat out lies in your post, enemies in Souls do not just slide as if they were on skates at all...they dodge, jump block the same as you do.
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I'm extremely hyped for this game but I have to agree with this. I think Bloodborne shows that Souls combat doesn't have to be slower and heavier. I would have loved combat similar to Bloodborne in W3. This looks just as bad as W2, as you said. In fact, I think it might even look a bit worse.
Sigh....why must people bash one thing because they like another? Nothing tedious about souls, especially bloodborne.
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I like the witcher as much as souls, and I never once bashed it, but to say witchers combat is more precise or even as good as from software is laughable. It is not in the same league.You mean the way you and the rest of the extremist Souls fans are bashing The Witcher 3 in this thread? Sigh...
Well said. I really like the Souls games, but I'm getting sick of the over-the-top hyperbolic worship of those games. They're good, but they're definitely not perfect. It's ridiculous the way some diehard Souls fans go around shitting on every other game and acting like the only possible way for these games to be good is if they adopt the mechanics from the Souls games.
I don't agree. I like what I'm seeing of the combat of The Witcher 3 and I think it's more fitting for the game and what we know about Geralt and his fighting style.
A few people keep saying things like "it doesn't look weighty or visceral like the Souls games"..."it doesn't look responsive"..."the hit responses suck" --and I'm left scratching my head and wondering if they're watching the same game as I am.
The Witcher 3's combat looks very responsive and visceral to my eyes. And the hit responses actually look more precise, realistic and better animated. Enemies in Bloodborne, for example, kind of just slide around as if they were on ice skates when they get hit. It's arcadey and poorly animated. I appreciate how the enemies in The Witcher 3 get knocked back and actually stagger unsteadily backwards on their feet with nicely animated movements.
I am not sure what the hell Geralt is doing, is he doing some spin slash three times in a row here?
I like the witcher as much as souls, and I never once bashed it, but to say witchers combat is more precise or even as good as from software is laughable. It is not in the same league.
The witcher is fantastic though overall, can you show where I bashed it? If I did I apologize, because this might be my goty.
Your post is nonsense...For one you are ignoring how every weapon as different move sets, weight , momentum in BB, and souls compared to the witcher. You also cannot get a feel for the combat via gifs. There is nothing more responsive or visceral about the witchers combat, if you played both you would know as good as the witcher is, it does not come close to the Souls/BB combat engine.
There is also numerous flat out lies in your post, enemies in Souls do not just slide as if they were on skates at all...they dodge, jump block the same as you do.
Enemies in souls get knocked back, and stagger too, not sure what point you are making there. There is no comparison, to say there is is simply silliness.
The combat looks terrible as ever. Yikes.
Making the combat look and feel right should have been a way higher priority than a world the size of jupiter.
Haven't seen a minute of gameplay outside of gifs on this page and thinking about purchasing this blind without spoiling a thing. Never played a game in the series but was a Lo ways interested. If I like games like DAI, Skyrim, and other similar looking games I guess it's safe to say I'll probably enjoy this?
No one here has played TW3, so how can we know? As you said, you cant get a good feel for a games combat by just looking at it. Personally, I dont think they are at all comparable.
You are right and make good points, we should wait to judge it.You can't have it both ways. You can't say that judging BB combat through videos/gifs isn't fair or accurate as it doesn't represent whole combat, but same time judge Witcher 3's combat through videos/gifs.
Or are you comparing BB combat to Witcher 1 and 2? If you are then you have some merit as those games are out. Same time we need to acknowledge that Witcher 3 isn't out, combat has been reworked for it and we haven't played it.
All we have seen in short segments of combat through several videos. Enough to get some impressions, but not even closely enough to get full picture about how combat is in Witcher 3.
Also he didn't lie about sliding and skating around when being hit, but he maybe cherrypick most extreme cases and didn't have ones where enemies use dodges and such. As they do dodge and shit in BB.
You mean the way you and the rest of the extremist Souls fans are bashing The Witcher 3 in this thread? Sigh...
What is this bullshit strawman.
The witcher 2 had bad combat, you'll find few people who disagree with that.
The combat looks terrible as ever. Yikes.
Making the combat look and feel right should have been a way higher priority than a world the size of jupiter.
The witcher 2 had bad combat, you'll find few people who disagree with that.