GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Why have you quoted the first paragraph in which they express doubt and ignored the second paragraph in which he admits he was an idiot doubting?
exactly.
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The Witness price revealed ($39.99 / 36.99)
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Why have you quoted the first paragraph in which they express doubt and ignored the second paragraph in which he admits he was an idiot doubting?
exactly.
Would something like this really attract a lot of attention on the shelves?
This is gorgeous !
foomfoom415
Member
Gotta feel a bit bad for those for whom the difference between $40 or $60 is a significant factor. I always thought this would be a $60 title, so $40 is all the better to hear. This is my most anticipated title of the year.
More_Badass
Member
GTA San Andreas, Bioshock, Oddworld Strangers Wrath, realMyst, and Brothers are on mobile. Titan Quest is releasing later this year
Modern IOS devices can run Unreal Engine 4, Cryengine, and Unity 5
Would something like this really attract a lot of attention on the shelves?
For me it would. More so than most of the trash box arts out there.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
If only there had been 200 people working on this. Blow could have sold exactly the same game for $60 with no complaint ...
Umm. Because significant number of people still think the game is "just about drawing lines in grids, which sounds dull"? The second quote obviously denies that, but it doesn't change the fact that a lot of people think the game is about drawing lines and that's about it. Not everyone digs every bit of information about games that might interest them. Hopefully the reviews finally change the public perception of the game.
Or maybe he really didn't read the second paragraph but I thought he was just pointing out something that is true for a lot of people. The Witness has been kind of a mystery for a long time and all many people have heard about it is that it takes place on an island, and there's grids to draw lines on. Doesn't sound like a 50-100 hour $40 game at first glance.
Ashler
Member
That's a pretty good listen, thanks!
Same here.
Although reading a few articles on the puzzle elements it seems that not every one has to be solved to progress. You can always wander off and explore, do a few more then come back later. A bit like a lunchtime crossword that's had you stumped for a while. Then when you do solve it, for the briefest moment, you feel like Einstein.
6 days can't come soon enough. My brain's aching to get into this.
De nada
paperspace
Member
Cranked up to 4K, max settings.
Fuck framerate.
"Some laptops", meaning 15 year old laptops?
Fbh
Member
I'm fine with $40 if the game is good. And what I've seen looks pretty nice.
But:
This.
I'm personally not the biggest fan of pure puzzle games. I love Portal 1 and 2 but I probably wouldn't have finished either of them if they were 50+ hours long.
I'd still be interested if it combines a good plot or characters with good puzzles (and not just 50 hours of puzzles for the sake of having 50 hours of puzzles). I guess time will tell
But:
This.
I'm personally not the biggest fan of pure puzzle games. I love Portal 1 and 2 but I probably wouldn't have finished either of them if they were 50+ hours long.
I'd still be interested if it combines a good plot or characters with good puzzles (and not just 50 hours of puzzles for the sake of having 50 hours of puzzles). I guess time will tell
I know it's beautiful. But it's still not something that major retailers would flock to put on their shelves. Also, no big publisher to get you a deal.
5-year old laptops!
Give War A Chance
Member
Any idea when to expect reviews of this one? I'd love to check out the Giantbomb Quick Look for a game like this, if it's really going to take like 20 hours to beat.
That's nuts. I don't really play mobile games at all and only got my first smartphone last year so I'm a bit behind the times when it comes to mobile tech. Needless to say I'm impressed.
I guess to me mobile game were stuff like Hearthstone or Jetpack Joyride as those are the only sorts of games I've seen in mobile. The idea that there are 3D games running on cellphones is mind blowing to me. At least I know now.
Its orange and blue, of course it'll sell.
Net_Wrecker
Member
I continue to smh @ reaction threads like this. We complain about the lack of mid-tier pricing in the industry but stuff like this or the Oddworld remake get priced in the $30-$40 range and out come these absurd opinions from the woodwork. It's only going to happen more and more as indy devs who found success with smaller titles try their hands at bigger and more ambitious games. We should be celebrating these kinds of releases. I'm sure the No Man's Sky price thread will be even stranger with all types of back assward logic.
Looking forward to whatever the hell The Witness is.
Looking forward to whatever the hell The Witness is.
Lol to the people that would judge this as "line puzzles" only, having not played the game, paid any attention to those who have and what they describe the experience as.
TechJunk
Member
Admittedly I haven't been keeping a close eye on it, but in my mind it was always going to be a $15 or $20 game so $39.99 USD ($45 CAD?) is sticker shock.
I'll do like lots of people here and wait for a sale.
moondoggerr
Banned
lol to the people that pay $60 for shooty shoot games. See how reductionism is the simplest, and most erroneous, line of critique?
Steve McQueen
Member
26 six pages about the price already. The OT is gonna be huge.
Btw...decent price, game offers a lot.
Btw...decent price, game offers a lot.
That's part of the mystery of the game, much like older games like Myst, of which the Witness is a bit of an homage to. You learn about the world as you play and the variety of puzzles / mechanics / locations and how they fit together.
More_Badass
Member
It's a Myst-style puzzle/exploration game
March of the Crabs
Member
So this means about $80 in Canada then, right 
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Regardless, I'll be getting this. Been interested in it forever and I'm glad it's finally (almost) here.
?Regardless, I'll be getting this. Been interested in it forever and I'm glad it's finally (almost) here.
Son Of Sparda
Member
Yeah that's a little out of budget for me right now. Will wait for it to go on a sale.
TheCanisDirus
Member
Was super excited for this ages ago. Do we know if it's all those line puzzles or are there a bunch of different puzzle types that crop up throughout the island?
Deputy Dangle
Member
So this means about $80 in Canada then, right
Regardless, I'll be getting this. Been interested in it forever and I'm glad it's finally (almost) here.
I've seen a lot of people say they're happy with the price conversion for this game when pre-orders went up on steam. Apparently it's $43.99 on the canadian steam store, so hopefully the same can be said when it goes up on PSN.
Here's Blow answering the question of whether solving line puzzles is all you do in the game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZbRBen7rCc&t=12m42s
From PC gamer's playthrough:
"30 minutes of game time later and its clear my doubts were misplaced. The Witness is a simple game at heart, one involving no item ferrying and no inventory management. I slowly pick my way through a quiet island and simply interact with electronic screens to open doors and manipulate the world. And Im transfixed. The puzzles are more inventive than I could have imagined, and labelling them as simply drawing lines through panels is akin to lumping every Braid feature under a rewinding time banner."
Remembrance
Member
There's a frame from the trailer that shows how the entire island is divided up into areas with different puzzle types:
hobblygobbly
Member
And? That's the same price similar puzzle games were.
For example Portal 2 was $50, The Talos Principle is $40. I don't get what's wrong with the price for puzzle games with the amount of content to offer.
You belittle a game to "line puzzles" but all puzzle games have a very simple mechanic at its heart, its simple mechanic(s) are not indicative of the thought one has to put into a puzzle to solve it.
Belgian Dude
Member
In. Would be in if it was $60. Don't care.
We need more puzzle/exploration games, and though I was skeptical for The Talos Principle it quickly became one of my favourite games of all time.
We need more puzzle/exploration games, and though I was skeptical for The Talos Principle it quickly became one of my favourite games of all time.
I think more to the point, it is pretty reductionist to belittle the game as line puzzles alone when it is clearly so much more.
Just as Braid has been labeled as "rewind time", the actual most core mechanic is time. However there was so much in terms of mechanics to go with that - applying mainpulation to different objects, movement, distance, independent and dependant objects / surfaces, rewind and fastforward functions etc etc but then also using these to solve puzzles of the actual level itself.
Similarly for The Witness, the most core mechanic is electronic panels on which puzzles are line based. However, not only are the line puzzles diverse in their own mechanics, they serve as a metagame for solving puzzles and manipulating the actual world. As pictured line puzzles form the method of traveling in a boat. They can open doors, activate connected objects / machinery that may be part of actual world based puzzles. The line puzzles don't necessarily have a single answer, which may produce other outcomes and solve different puzzles.
Much like Myst, there is much to explore and solve, but in doing so understand the world and what other purposes exist.
toythatkills
Member
I wouldn't even care if it was 667 line puzzles.
I fucking love puzzles.
I fucking love puzzles.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Line puzzles
And moving trough the environment to find more line puzzles
For at least 20 hours
More_Badass
Member
Even if we're going to compare it to Portal, all you do in that game is connect two spots with a pair of portals. That's what you're doing for the game, It's how the game explores that mechanic that gives Portal its variety.
Or SpaceChem. All you doing is drawing paths and combining things. But it's the intricacy and different elements on top of that main mechanic that makes SpaceChem so challenging and varied
Same here. Yes, at its core, you're using drawing lines on panels, but it's how the game explores that mechanic. And we've seen several examples in trailers and read in previews to how Blow evolves and expands the mechanic, and merges it with the environment and exploring
I'm stuck at 1080p60fps on my PC right now, but upgrading to a 3440x1440 100fps monitor later this month (literally on the 31st) so might hold out then to get that 4k experience.