Doctoglethorpe
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TITANFALL 2 is depressingly disappointing....
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BattleMonkey
Member
Most of us have heard this over and over again with other alphas/betas, etc which launch soon.
The claims that his is alpha tech test is bullshit, they would not be testing an alpha build for a game that is only a few weeks away from going gold.
hoyalawya
Member
The good thing about Titanfall 2 is that I can get my life back. I am addicted to Titanfall 1 and have been playing 2+ hours per day since it came out. I am somewhat relief that the new game is not as good as the old one. Otherwise, I would have to waste my vacation time and spend countless sleepless nights playing the new one.
A good player or team will destroy people in this game too. The whole "a good player" scenario is not a solid argument. "A good player" will win in any game.
Yes but they've already stated that this build was branched off in june and a lot of the meta has changed. Not to mention the complaints contradict themselves like those that mention these complaints all together
- Too much camping
- No titan timer
- Too easy to kill people
How can someone honestly complain about all three? if you're good at killing, if things are easier than the titan timer shouldn't be an issue. No good player ever said "wow the timer saved me" no because they'd get their titans way before anyone else in Titanfall 1. Killing other pilots was the fastest way to get your Titan dropped. The timer was there to help bad players. It's a contradiction to complain about all 3
TheCanisDirus
Member
Completely fucking agree 100%. I started to think i was nuts but I really think people just started to latch onto the negative comment bandwagon and decided to "me too".
Yes, the bandwagon jumping in the gaming community is staggering. My initial first impressions weren't great, they did change some stuff that has me baffled, but i still think there's an amazing game there underneath. With the proper changes they can achieve it.
Just watching the snowball roll though is amazing to witness.
TheCanisDirus
Member
Personally I completely disagree. Titans in TF1 were a little too powerful. Titans in TF2 feel more balanced and it's not as easy to tank the entire match in a single Titan like it was in TF1. I think the balance of Pilot vs Titan surviveability/leathality is much better in TF2.
I haven't played the tech test, nor am I a big fan of multiplayer games. I did enjoy the time I spent with TF1 though and this is super disappointing to hear about.
The fact that they've changed to a killstreak focused rewards system for the titan means I will never have a titan in multiplayer and the main draw of the original is completely gone for me.
The fact that they've changed to a killstreak focused rewards system for the titan means I will never have a titan in multiplayer and the main draw of the original is completely gone for me.
Raiden1018
Banned
That sounds super disappointing 
Why cant developers just stay true to their vision without pandering to other fanbases?
Why cant developers just stay true to their vision without pandering to other fanbases?
DudeWithNoName
Member
It seems Respawn listened a little too much to the AI sucks opinion. The people making this claim were not active players of the game, and didn't understand the usefulness of the AI.
Fuck off with that shit. People have genuine concerns about the game and have listed them in the Titanfall 2 threads many times, guess what they don't agree with you!
Just attributing it to bandwagoning is the laziest fucking thing just because you don't agree.
VincentMatts
Member
That sounds super disappointing
Why cant developers just stay true to their vision without pandering to other fanbases?
To be fair, these guys made the best COD game ever. Its really their fanbase to begin with.
I had fun playing the first one at a friend's house, had a great foundation for a great sequel. That said.... Adding in killstreaks is dumb. Getting kills for Titan drop is dumb. Looking at the maps in all the streams, all looked terrible.
Who ever is the game director for this game is way off the mark. Gonna be a poor first showing on ps4.
Who ever is the game director for this game is way off the mark. Gonna be a poor first showing on ps4.
Doug Heffernan
Member
Damn, I'll stick with Titanfall 1. Hopefully XB1 users are with me and keep the game active.
And i've addressed every concern over there in bullet point style, so how about you fuck off and actually come at me with some counter points instead of being lazy? eh?
I have my concerns with the game, what i pointed out was the obvious contradictions in some peoples complaints that don't make any fucking sense.
Dash_Riprock
Member
You're taking this rather personally.
BattleMonkey
Member
No it's not a contradiction, all those things contribute to why the game plays differently.
It's so easy to kill people, which promotes camping. Making titans a kill streak like reward, forces you to essentially play it like a standard camping heavy shooter.
All things that make it play not like the Titanfall we love
Everyone here is taking things rather personally.
i was just personally attacked.
No they weren't - I consistently had the most Titan kills on my team. It was all about making smart plays. Titans in TF2 are completely disposable, and the battery mechanic is not exciting. Titans feel inferior to Pilots when they should be equally satisfying.
You're telling me people parkoured and played freely in attrition with a timer you could wait out and a.i you could quietly farm with a silenced carbine?
Reality isn't checking out here. I've dropped an unhealthy amount of hours into the original game and Attrition isn't the greatest mode. I'm not saying they shouldn't change it, i think they should, but the reasons given are contradictory.
I'm also pretty disappointed from what i played in this beta, game feels slower and with less action than the first one, which i loved, maps are too big, it's difficult to find enemies and you have to wait too long to summon your Titan, i hope it was just a bad choice of map and kind of match for this beta, cause i still wanna trust Respown, also this time they have a single player campaign which i want to try
Spot on. I actually think that the game could quite easily be salvaged by raising TTK and adding titan timer, but people are genuienly concerned about the quality of the final game and they're voicing their opinions, that's what open beta tests (lol alpha two months before release) are for.
People do this every time. Bad beta, argue there's still plenty of time before launch to adjust the game, game launches identically to the beta, people slink away into the night. Chances are, the beta is exactly what we're getting at release maybe with tweaked titan timers and one or two other fixes.
At least until they change the name of the series to Pilotfall.
PositiveGamer
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Gold_Loot
Member
Don't listen to him. It's points based NOT streak based. You don't need streaks to anything really, just contribute to your team.
These complaints were aimed at the first game as well. People got bored farming bots because they thought the maps were too big and the players hard to find where in reality, people that stuck with the game, learned the mechanics, and traversed around the maps at insane speeds would tell you the maps were not too big and it was very easy to find pilots.
Raiden1018
Banned
what?
Broadbandito
Member
It is disappointing to see people try anything for 15 minutes and nope out.
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
I liked the Test, but I mainly stuck with Pilot v. Pilot. The bounty gametype was decent, but the Titans didn't do much for me. Luckily I'm a team deathmatch dude through and through, I get that it's not the most interesting gametype but I've always liked it because of it's simplicity. I found it to be pretty awesome here and I think the maps/mobility are fine. I played the first Titanfall and liked it a lot, but honestly I think 2 is going to edge it out in the end. I think they have enough time to fix a lot of people's issues, and I believe people need to wait it out and see what the final game brings.
It seems the weapons are going to be way better/varied, and I like their "perk" system, I just hope there are enough options to keep it interesting. I never liked burn cards from the first game, it felt like a chore and didn't make me feel like I was "customizing" myself, more just choosing random (mostly) uninteresting temporary advantages.
Stim is awesome, Holo is fun, the grapple is near game changing. The gameplay itself is more fun to me, the duck/slide is way better than the first and helps supplement crazy chains of acrobatically attacking/evading. I realize there aren't as many walls to jump on in these maps and I understand that concern, but I think T2 just has more variation in that regard. There are some more open areas, some tight areas, and kind of everything in between.
Excuse me for the suggested foresight, but I think people are going to warm up to this game.
Kill times though...definitely too low, Respawn.
It seems the weapons are going to be way better/varied, and I like their "perk" system, I just hope there are enough options to keep it interesting. I never liked burn cards from the first game, it felt like a chore and didn't make me feel like I was "customizing" myself, more just choosing random (mostly) uninteresting temporary advantages.
Stim is awesome, Holo is fun, the grapple is near game changing. The gameplay itself is more fun to me, the duck/slide is way better than the first and helps supplement crazy chains of acrobatically attacking/evading. I realize there aren't as many walls to jump on in these maps and I understand that concern, but I think T2 just has more variation in that regard. There are some more open areas, some tight areas, and kind of everything in between.
Excuse me for the suggested foresight, but I think people are going to warm up to this game.
Kill times though...definitely too low, Respawn.
that's disappointing. you only like what your favorite streamer likes? damn.
Diablohead
Member
3rd person cameras ruin the mood and feeling of scale for the titans so yes I dislike it
VincentMatts
Member
I agree, 3rd person just isnt as impressive
i3allistic
Member
something about players able to play as a giant robots and begin able jump/swing in MP games doesn't do well with me ....gets old fast
they should go back to basic with good weapon balance and great map design ....none of that fancy shit
they should go back to basic with good weapon balance and great map design ....none of that fancy shit
Not really, the maps in the first game had great map flow from the get go. The two maps in this trial do not, especially Boom Town.
CrimsonEclipse
Member
Played a few matches on Saturday for like 30-45 mins. After I was done, didn't feel like picking up the game at all again. Whereas TF1 I was always looking to get back into the game. First weekend of launch I reached maxed level and re-upped.
I had no urge to go back and play this after my first session. Will most likely be skipping this game, such a shame.
I had no urge to go back and play this after my first session. Will most likely be skipping this game, such a shame.
AgentOtaku
Member
Precisely
If anything, TF1 isn't gonna just disappear and if players flock back to it, Respawn will have to do something about it.
And we still have the Singleplayer to look forward to....
Feral Gingy
Banned
Two things I want to see improved:
1. The rodeo mechanic feels incredibly meh. They should make it an actual gameplay moment instead of simply jumping or grappling on and watching a scripted event.
2. The banks in bounty hunt should change locations or even better make them mobile bots that constantly walk around the map and never stop even during deposit. Fixed locations are so boring and just make players go camping around them once the waves are about to end.
1. The rodeo mechanic feels incredibly meh. They should make it an actual gameplay moment instead of simply jumping or grappling on and watching a scripted event.
2. The banks in bounty hunt should change locations or even better make them mobile bots that constantly walk around the map and never stop even during deposit. Fixed locations are so boring and just make players go camping around them once the waves are about to end.
RealityCheque
Banned
Are these crappy changes confirmed for the final release (ie no Attrition? What!?)? Or are they part of the fact that its a beta test?
The titans not being on a timer is a real deal-breaker for me.
The titans not being on a timer is a real deal-breaker for me.
Well, since SwolBro addressed the concerns, I guess everyone else's opinion is invalid. Titanfall 2 GOTY confirmed. None of the responses I've seen make me any more excited for the game now that I've played the beta.
won't disagree that the maps in the original titanfall beta were way better than these two but the complaints were there during the initial launch of the game. look at reddit during that time, and i'm sure if you search here you'll see it.
people couldn't "find' other pilots for long stretches of time and thought the maps were too big.
Never said that but when the complaints contradict themselves, and don't mesh with the reality of the original game... gotta question the validity of some of them
TheCanisDirus
Member
How is that lazy? My opinion that the "me-too" internet forum culture is indeed resulting in a large portion of the negative TF 2 shit we're seeing across the web is not lazy. I personally think that's a very likely scenario based on all that i've played with other veteran TF1 players. But in the end it's just an opinion. Your comment is nonsensical... at the very best.
Now you're correlating skill to game mechanics and balancing. Why do you think the titans in TF2 are "completely disposable" and how does that differ from how you see them in TF1? Why don't you think the battery mechanic works? I personally think it adds much more strategy than simply doing a rodeo and ending a titan. Could it be you're just not enjoying these two Titans and maybe some of the other Titans will be less disposable?