LiquidSword
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Yes! I need this shit because I'm a nervous wreck thinking about the debate.
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Trump: Lester Holt Shouldn't Fact Check Monday's Debate
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Yes! I need this shit because I'm a nervous wreck thinking about the debate.
Don't be. I feel pretty confident that we will see a pretty clear Clinton victory on monday night.
Don't jinx it. Trump's "victory" is to do better than not drooling on himself and enough people and media will praise him for standing his ground, no matter how poorly he does.
Let's put a gifted game on it! Hehe. I just don't see them actually debating as trump can't debate.
HP_Wuvcraft
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Trump's going to try to get into fights with the moderator as much as he can, isn't it?
Palette Swap
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This "win" talk seems a bit irrelevant to me as people will walk away from that with their biases confirmed. I mean, the people voting for Trump right now thought Obama was too agressive with Romney, which showed a lack of character.
I don't doubt if Clinton is assertive, she'll be seen as losing her temper (because assertive women are often seen as aggressive for some reason) while if she remains calm and composed, she'll be seen as cold, distant and probably ill. If she insists on facts and numbers, she'll be boring. If she outlines policy, she'll be a liar, while when she doesn't she'll be vague.
Tallshortman
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Yep he's sacred of getting exposed on the spot by a seasoned and we'll prepared Clinton into saying something undeniably, factually wrong.
SlimySnake
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lol Yep. I said this before. She is going to eat him alive. Expect Trump to sweat and scream. He will lose the election come Monday night.
I dont expect him to show up for the second debate.
FrenchMovieTheme
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No matter what happens trump and his supporters will say he won the debate
The people already dedicated to Trump don't matter. They're already in.
The debates are useful for swaying the undecideds, by and large. The swing voters. Any damage done to his image when in direct comparison to his opponent on live television will go a long way in making that happen.
But moderators will absolutely have to hold him accountable during it, or it won't work. So there's that...
Eh that's fine, the point is to sway the undecided and moderate conservatives still being wishy washy on the fence by raking Trump over the coals. Like I'm fully expecting the first few questions to be "What about Jim Crow, Trump" "What about your Birtherism" and a vast number of other awful minority questions along with the substantial amount of crap uncovered from his foundation.
This shit isn't gonna be Fox softballs anymore since Lauer absolutely shit the bed so hard his own media outlet threw him under the bus.
They aren't telling it to his face in front of the audience he's lying to. And so you end up with this cult of personality where Trump is deemed more trustworthy and honest and has more integrity than hillary. Any dissenting argument that occurs in a different time/place/format is viewed through the same lens as a corporate PR department spin job, where a story is first weaved and then rolled out to evoke a favorable response.
There needs to be a live smackdown of bullshit in order for a lot of these people to actually realize someone is being dishonest rather than presenting a legitimate argument and speaking from a legitimate frame of reference.
Now, the 25% of people who approved of Bush and support the tea party? They're assholes. But most of the 30% of "swing voters" in this country that bring trump to competitive polling levels need to literally be pampered and babied into understanding this. It has to be directly in front of their face.
HP_Wuvcraft
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Yeah, I don't think anyone is debating this at this point.
It's so depressing.
Trump's supporters already think he's won.
Rentahamster
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I feel this is extremely overly optimistic.
This is going to be one crazy debate, Trump is so ridiculous. I hope anytime they fact check they also reinforce it for him with like a clip, it'll be hilarious.
Im already making a drinking game for this. Gonna take a Shot anytime America, Experience, Media, and Liar is said. Hopefully i survive the night to be able to vote.
Im already making a drinking game for this. Gonna take a Shot anytime America, Experience, Media, and Liar is said. Hopefully i survive the night to be able to vote.
This
If he manages to put on pants they will praise him for how serious and presidential he was.
"Didn't even talk about his Dick, he did well"
Going after a candidate's supporters is a lost cause, you can't persuade them. What you can get is the undecided voters and voters who reluctantly vote trump along with motivating your own supporters.
sturgboski
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I hope the moderators outside of the spineless Fox News guy who is still a huge supporter of Ailes hold Trump to task for his bullshit. I hope the immediate reaction the audience has AND even his peers to how shitty a job Lauer did will give the moderators the bravado to take Trump to town for lies, nonanswers and vagaries.
Sadly I fear they will instead focus on Clinton and let Trump slide like Lauer.
Sadly I fear they will instead focus on Clinton and let Trump slide like Lauer.
Heaven Shard
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Liars and bullshitters are allergic to fact-checking. And drumpf is a world-class lying bullshitter. The poor orange thing will melt and seep between the chairs if you correct him.
It's amusing that Trump targets Holt when the NBC newsman is a registered republican.
While Chris Wallace of Fox News who always grills the Clintons is a registered democrat.
Though for Chris Wallace I don't know if he's doing that prodding based on his own beliefs or based on his salary (Murdoch / Ailes).
For Holt, it's obvious because he raps.
https://imgur.com/a/7ONWk
While Chris Wallace of Fox News who always grills the Clintons is a registered democrat.
Though for Chris Wallace I don't know if he's doing that prodding based on his own beliefs or based on his salary (Murdoch / Ailes).
For Holt, it's obvious because he raps.
https://imgur.com/a/7ONWk
As long as he doesn't say anything good about brown or black people they will continue to back him.
OrangeGrayBlue
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My optimistic side says he won't be able to do that for two hours straight in a one-by-one debate.
OrangeGrayBlue
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Awkward double post
That was a Town Hall, not a debate.
Still he was absolutely destroyed due to his performance afterwards.
Very likely. He will just say it's a sham and he doesn't have to put up with lying Hillary and her "facts."
Hillary isn't going to gain anything from this. No one cares about the facts.
Hillary?
Bam Bam Baklava
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Why do you Trump supporters never defend him in threads about his corruption, bigotry, and incompetence? It's weird.
Haven't you been posting in threads about hating both candidates and voting for Gary Johnson? Why go out of your way to suggest Clinton is the clueless one? lmao
SaviourMK2
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It's astounding that he's essentially saying "I should be allowed to lie to all these people" and his stupid followers are like "yeah yeah! clap clap"
"He won that debate!"
"Why do you say that?"
"Well, he said he did"
"He won that debate!"
"Why do you say that?"
"Well, he said he did"
SaviourMK2
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Double post mistake
Saying you are voting 3rd party is the new hotness for still supporting Trump but being able to say "why you attacking me I am voting 3rd party?"
Are there any 3rd party voters that consistently defend Hillary over Trump while saying they are 3rd party? If so they must be really low key.
It's code for "fuck equal rights, keep white privilege"
sturgboski
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Well and the country economically if Johnson were to follow his plans of just flat out cutting government by 20% and doing away with the Fed.
Are the third party candidates even respectable? They've both sounded pretty bad from what little I've read about them.
People using third party as some sort of protest vote might want to keep in mind that voting for these people still shows up as an account that their policies/positions/values are closest to what you want. If they are crazy and/or not suited to be president, you are still supporting that as being acceptable.
People using third party as some sort of protest vote might want to keep in mind that voting for these people still shows up as an account that their policies/positions/values are closest to what you want. If they are crazy and/or not suited to be president, you are still supporting that as being acceptable.
The commander and chief forum proved Trump is going to bomb even the easiest of soft balls. He found a way. Not remotely worried about the debate. No audience to cheer on his obscene bullshit, hardly any prep vs. The most talented and heavily prepared presidential debater of the modern era.
Media will play the "he did better than expected" card, but it wont matter. Difference is too stark.
Media will play the "he did better than expected" card, but it wont matter. Difference is too stark.
CMojicaAce
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Destroy him, Hillary.
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MeisaMcCaffrey
Yeah, I have a feeling the first debate will sink his campaign. There is no way he can come out of that without any major bruises.
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