Brad Grenz
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"Every Durango comes with a miniature Wesley Crusher who uses his Trans-Warp powers to speed the flow between memory pools. He calls this the "Data Move Engine" in honor of an android friend from his childhood."
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VGleaks: Orbis Unveiled! [Updated]
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iamshadowlark
Banned
Yikes.
Sorry if this was already posted. Looks pretty dramatic to just be an accessory or something, come on PS4.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/31/3938830/playstation-meeting-2013
http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/31/3938830/playstation-meeting-2013
somuchwater
Member
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To those of you still worried about raw TFLOP numbers. This is what is being done on 7 year old hardware. Why are you still skeptical of what can be accomplished with hardware that's roughly 6-8x more powerful? ...and that's just on paper, we're not even talking about architectural advancements, better tools etc., we're just multiplying arbitrary numbers. Imagine what ND, GG, SMS and PD would accomplish with a closed box that's not only 8x more powerful(8 PS3s duct taped together? lol), but also tailored towards their needs.
Reminds me of the PS2 slim in that picture. I approve.
grimshawish
Banned
Verge continue to be rather odd in terms of their videogame reporting.
Those 'teasers' are the triangle, X, O, and square.
Those 'teasers' are the triangle, X, O, and square.
dead monkey uk
Member
Totally agree with this, Its amazing what Sony is doing with a 7 year old Console. Look at games like 'The last of Us', 'Uncharted 3' and 'Killzone 3'.
The crazies have really crawled out of the wood work, especially over the past few months / weeks.
Shit is only going to get worse,I was lurking GAF around the time of the last console release wars and it was crazy and casualties were heavy.
Also was there a new batch of juniors? ....... seems to be more of them around at the moment.
Tough time to be forum staff these next couple of years.
Also, GDDR5 is obviously better, especially compared to a large pool of slow running ram ...... even the tiny pool of fast ram can not makeup the difference.
No, there is hardware hidden in the image.
And it is amazing how some people simply "Add" the two pool's bandwidth together as if that is how it actually occurs.
I expect a plethora of perm and temporary bans by the time E3 rolls aorund.
phosphor112
Banned
Sauce, mang.
Felix Lighter
Member
I know from current leaks, the Sony console seems to have a significant edge but I really hope it's nothing extreme. I have no allegiance to either manufacturer but I really don't want any of the platforms to be an anchor on multiplatform development. The vast majority of the games released over the generation are going to be developed with the lowest common denominator in mind to some extent so I don't get excited when I consider the idea that one is significantly lower power than the other.
iceatcs
Junior Member
Well this gen is probably worst ever in my gaming life. No real winning, low-rate, too long years and way fewer games. I do think too much multi-platform cause this problem.
Hopefully next-gen will be change this time, I think I do need all 3 systems to be completely different each other because PS2's and SNES's generation is best thing in my life.
Hopefully next-gen will be change this time, I think I do need all 3 systems to be completely different each other because PS2's and SNES's generation is best thing in my life.
Orbis should allow all of its games to be played on the Vita via remote play, by default. It's insane that Sony didn't get their shit together for that on PS3.
Thanks for forcing me to figure out how to add someone to my ignore list.
babyghost853
Member
shinobi602
Member
Ugh, that top one is hideous.
Graphics Horse
Member
That's looking at an inside corner of the triangle symbol.
Have you ever been in a Digital Foundry face off thread? Shit gets real over a 2fps drop at frame 4683 on console x which doesn't happen on console y.
What the hell are you implying here, exactly?
Also, how does one rid himself of the "junior" moniker?
I rather enjoy these reports as it tells dual-console owners, which is the best version to purchase. I don't suppose this will change anytime soon either.
Dunno fella, the junior tag seems to imply something some take too literally.
You'll lose it when you hit a certain number of posts.
According to latest Eurogamer article, PS4 will constantly record last 15 minutes of your gameplay. Excellent feature [if true].
I'm such a lurker, this could take awhile.
Wait what ? source ?
usually I just ask people to stop being dicks, but you're a junior so
There's a new story in Edge. People are mainly discussing new controller, but best bits are on 2nd page, about developers claiming it's more powerful than Xbox, very easy to develop for and that ...wait for it... Sony's pushing to increase the RAM in final version to 8Gb.
Now my question is, with 2.5D stactking is it possible to use DDR3 and still maintain the 176Gb/s bandwidth? If so, I think this would be the only reasonable way to double the RAM, without impacting the price? Or is stacking so expensive to cancel out the benefits of using DDR3 instead of GDDR5?
Interfectum
Member
Time for you neogaf insiders to get some last minute scoops in before Feb 20. right?? right??? 
spill it.
spill it.
It's Edge. Also somehow I read it as 15 seconds and was not impressed, 15 minutes will be awesome.
pharmboy044
Member
They're not pushing the RAM to 8GB. Sony wants to match the power of Xboxs 8GB. Which most here have said they have done by having 4GB of GDDR5 RAM in the PS4.
gaming_noob
Member
Time for you neogaf insiders to get some last minute scoops in before Feb 20. right?? right???
spill it.
Can we get a roundup of what each neoGaf insider has proclaimed so we can out the fakes after Feb 20?
Well, I guess 4Gb GDDR5 has been known for quite some time so I doubt they meant that. Also, the quote is quite clear - they acknowledge better bandwidth and in next step want to match the quantity:
Sure, they're not saying it will be GDDR5, so it's possible they want to use DDR3 stacked, or maybe even have two pools of different RAM types combined (if it makes sense; I have no clue).
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Time for you neogaf insiders to get some last minute scoops in before Feb 20. right?? right???
spill it.
DO IT, GAF! Feed me! PM me! Dance with me! Show me! Whatever you have, display it!
*dies*
Tarin02543
Member
I wonder what special sauce we will get. Perhaps some great audio DSP?
Holy shit I haven't seen it yet. That part is amazing for us (as Neogaf users)
This means finally no problem with getting direct feed screenshots, movies and what is most important megaton of gifs.
As for no processing penalty they will probably use Video encode and decode (VCE/UVD) units since it is hardware and it is mentioned in leak. It would be like hooking up your ps3 to pvr and redirecting it to tv. PVR can record gameplay without any cpu or gpu hit. But i am not perfectly sure about how it will work on HDD. Constant writing will make things load/write slower unless they will use Zlib Decompression Hardware for boosting reading process. I am speculating so it may be completely wrong.
Not an even 0.000001% chance for retail 8GB GDDR5. 8GB for devkit should be doable.
It is confirmed in VG leak : Audio Processor (ACP) knowing Sony they won't put some shit. PS3 had ton of audio support like 8.1 pcm etc. That DSP should also offload CPU.
Tarin02543
Member
Holy shit you've just solved those mystery extra cpu's.
Don't take my word as fact. Until 20 of February we can only speculate.
If rumors are true then we have:
Audio Processor (ACP) - DSP hardware to offload CPU with audio work
Video encode and decode (VCE/UVD) units - for video encoding/decoding on fly and screen capture as mentioned in EDGE
Display ScanOut Engine (DCE) - offloading image analys from CPU for use with improved PSEYE aka use of PSEYE without any real performance hit
Zlib Decompression Hardware - helps reading from HDD probably being more efficient than fastest HDD (but still slower than SSD)
I really love design choice which Sony made if rumors are true. Thought i will change HDD to SSD
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Yeah, presuming that in the very first shot of that teaser we see what the hardware is like, before it disassembles into XO[]/\, it looks nice and blocky and PS2/oldscholl amp-like, just as I'd love it to be.
Looks like they're using it to capture footage and encode for fast uploads to YT, etc. Very exciting.
theSlacker
Member
Honestly not a big fan of the share thing and it recording stuff mentioned. Seems like power that could go to better use elsewhere, and would be disappointing if that is all the mystery cores are going to do.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
If itsdedicated video encoder chip than that power couldn't go anywhere else. If it's not, then yes it's bad that they're wasting power on this.
theSlacker
Member
Ah okay. I clearly misunderstood what I was reading then, thanks. Hope it is the first, and I can still disable it.
Could be wrong but no. They have mostly software which enables use of gpu instead of cpu to encode/decode video.
Also this sharing thing makes me think what Sony is trying to do. Obvious logic point at youtube sharing, screenshots etc. But this could also mean that Sony will try to do something with it and introduce some app/virtal space something like HOME or HOME as native app. Maybe integrated with OS (as people wanted that years ago)