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VGleaks: Orbis Unveiled! [Updated]
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Interfectum
Member
Because I care.
Done.
Insane Metal
Member
somuchwater
Member
I'm not sure if it will help with this, but if having flash helps not only loading times, but how instantly you can switch to or call up other services from any point in the OS, then I'm all for it.
Fixed?
Aw, I'm not that mean!
you should, it's selling us short. We're jackass fanboys of everything, not just video games.
grimshawish
Banned
Who is that tweeter?
gaming_noob
Member
SuperDaE is a troll...I wouldn't believe anything he says. The ONLY person I trust now is Lherre.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
He also said both consoles are a wash.
Nothing in that tweet even indicates Durango being more powerful.
The power gap between Orbis and Durango could actually be a lot smaller.
Way to generalize, speak for yourself.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
SuperDAE has access to Xbox devkits, no? He's the one who made the photo and then sold the original devkit. I wouldn't just dismiss what he's saying. On the other hand, the detailed Durango GPU leak was very recent.
Way to generalize, speak for yourself.
I meant everybody but me. I'm only a fan of peanut butter+chocolate, and I'm not talking GoW either
phosphor112
Banned
From day 1 he's dumped on sony, so I won't really care what he says.
Seriously, this is the info HE leaked. I mean... really? This dude is damage controlling the shit he leaked.
This is what Aegeis followed by Lherre (in response to Aegeis) had to say in another thread (Durango GPU):
Either way... We'll find out anyway very soon.
Highly unlikely yes, but possible if they have left the room for such expansion - support of changing 32bit pathway to one 512MB chip into 32bit pathway to two 512chips connected into clamshell mode [one on both sides of mobo, connected to the same pins].
I still hope for stacked ram on interposer.
AuthenticM
Member
PS4 has Wifi N, but, again, it's one step behind as Wifi AC is supposed to come out around the same time as the next-gen consoles and won't be in them. Here's hoping it'll be added in a future revision.
phosphor112
Banned
Just like the info of the slightly underpowered GPU in the Durango, that came from the documents he had.
This guy is just all over the place.
Agent Ironside
Member
My contact who works for a certain developer confirms what Lherre said. He explained to me that Microsofts intentions with their dev kits was for them to be pretty much be final spec.
This. We were jumping for joy at the rumours of a bump to 4GB lets not suddenly get down hearted because it isn't 8GB
Can't see them locking one for yields, doesn't make sense on tiny CPUs. Sounds like they've already locked off 2CU from the 20 - presumably for yields. That should be enough. I think the question is whether they need 2 cores for OS. Hope not, because that's 25% of available basic CPU
JonathanPower
Member
Well, I think that a single jaguar core should be powerful enough to run the OS with a fraction of its power; thus, I think we can expect to have at least 7 cores available for games.
Death Dealer
Member
I highly doubt it will need 2 cores to run the OS. Reserving one core will be generous for a basic console OS.
Jaguar is impressive for what it is, but let's not pretend it's a desktop-class CPU.
Correct. FYI, it was originally 2GB and considered cost prohibitive to be bumped up. Celebrate in the streets.
What do your sources have to say about current EDGE article pertaining to Sony trying to match Durango's 8GB RAM? Do they concur with BruceLeeRoy about the specs being pretty much final at this point and that that part of the article was in error?
Sounds about right.
Death Dealer
Member
I have a singe core atom netbook that runs windows 7.
I think a Jaguar core is more powerful. I know PS4 OS won't be as bloated as Windows 7.
It doesn't have gobs of floating point math power, but I doubt an 8 core Jaguar will be a bottleneck on either system. It's really not that bad of a CPU for a console.
Yeah, they don't need to lock down a core for the OS; what they'd need is to lock down a core for security purposes. Iirc, MS is going with an ARM processor for security which I believe is an AMD design, so with a lack of information a good guess would be that Orbis will do the same.
From what I remember, not even the PS3 locks down a core for the OS. The OS and even the Hypervisor run on the PPC, with the locked SPU providing encryption/decryption services. I don't think OS overhead will be an issue on the PS4.
From what I remember, not even the PS3 locks down a core for the OS. The OS and even the Hypervisor run on the PPC, with the locked SPU providing encryption/decryption services. I don't think OS overhead will be an issue on the PS4.
phosphor112
Banned
Speaking of desktop, you implied that we wouldn't be seeing "mobile" GPU's in these, are they not mobile GPUs?
Binned in nature? No
That's an extraordinarily expensive proposition for any console manufacturer, one which would lead to massive shortages.
PopcornMegaphone
Banned
I choose to believe this specific rumor. I plan to reference it in all my fanboy debates.
So who wants to have circular arguments that goes on for at least 20 pages?
I just find it funny that some people are taking rumors at face value while ignoring others. With the console war heating up, that kind of behavior is quite normal.
PopcornMegaphone
Banned
At this point I'm done with rumor mongering. I just wanna see the games. I'm sure both systems will look great.
gundamkyoukai
Member
Truth is to me it's to early to say which system has the upper hand .
The first year of software hardly ever uses the system power or parts that great .
If anything the second year will tell us that .
The first year of software hardly ever uses the system power or parts that great .
If anything the second year will tell us that .
iamvin22
Industry Verified
dont think we will see a SSD slot.
No it'll be built into the motherboard.
Didn't devs last year say they thought x3 would be a sales leader over the next 5 years? That must had been a pretty good sales pitch. Or was that just a poor IGN survey?
I think Sony's current 16GB flash model is a testbed for just that.
BOOM. 20th can't come soon enough. I just need a snippet.
Who knows.