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Vince Zampella: Titanfall beta was full res textures

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Wait, what. It's obvious cboat just mixed up alpha and beta. Why would it make sense to have shit textures in alpha, better textures in beta that tens of thousands of people saw, and then go back to those shit textures for release? That's not how stuff works.
 
Cboat has a history of leaks.. Some right some wrong... after this titanfall leak we are just gonna dismiss what he says from now on? Obviously this guy has connections and or works for MS... he is only telling us what he thinks is truth from people higher up.
 

antitrop

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Wait, what. It's obvious cboat just mixed up alpha and beta. Why would it make sense to have shit textures in alpha, better textures in beta that tens of thousands of people saw, and then go back to those shit textures for release? That's not how stuff works.

The thread I linked to in my 1st post of the thread was from before the Beta.

This is a post from CBOAT after the Beta. He's not confused.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=102134903&postcount=702
CBOAT said:
720 as wel , 792? no.

stick in toMy gun s on alpha texture POSTi mad be4, btway
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PBY

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Wait, what. It's obvious cboat just mixed up alpha and beta. Why would it make sense to have shit textures in alpha, better textures in beta that tens of thousands of people saw, and then go back to those shit textures for release? That's not how stuff works.

Which is why its crazy he straight up doubled down even after the beta was out.
 

xkramz

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What if his source confused and the alpha textures and 720p is for the 360 version and cboat misinterpreted as xbo?
 

tfur

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Hanging on for that last bit of hope I see. The desperation for the XB1 version to be bad is beyond hysterical. The Titanfall OP will be EPIC

Or just an obvious follow up. No need for persecution complex.

Also, they won't tell anyone the resolution, only what resolution it is not. It seems weird to even bother answering these tweets when they do that.
 
Something is missing in this whole micro drama. Doesn't add up.

Maybe Bish suspects the account has been compromised, and it's at the end of its usefulness.

Or maybe CBoaT got found out, lost his job, lost his connections, and is trying to use his position to lash out. There was a time when he said he'd be disappearing for a while, but he's come back a lot lately.

Or maybe, as said above, it was pitched as a solution to technical issues (maybe in some modes the textures run at a reduced resolution, but not all modes). Doubling-down in the face of the beta was odd, though.

On the other hand, 792p is such a weird resolution to shoot for. I know about the "almost 720p" games of the previous generation, but to shoot for just a little above it, why not just go with native 720p and use the breathing room for other things?
 
Everyone's talking about Textures while I'm just here waiting to see what happens to my beloved CBOAT.

Bish pls
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ElTorro should modify this gif with Bish's SamJack face on the Pikachu on the left and the one on the right should be the GAF emblem with each slap saying "No!" or something of the like....feels...
 

-MD-

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What's the reason for banning him anyways? If the guy is a known insider and occasionally has good info, what does it matter if he's wrong a couple times?

Makes no sense.
 

ZealousD

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Cboat has a history of leaks.. Some right some wrong... after this titanfall leak we are just gonna dismiss what he says from now on? Obviously this guy has connections and or works for MS... he is only telling us what he thinks is truth from people higher up.

We can't really be assured of the accuracy of his info anymore. He may put up some legit leaks from time-to-time, but there's a risk of some serious blowback if he leaks something that turns out not to be true. I don't think it's fair for developers to have CBOAT spread FUD about their game when it turns out not to be true.
 
To be perfectly clear:

Titanfall Alpha ran at 720p with textures at 25% resolution.

Titanfall Beta ran at 792p with textures at full resolution.

CBOAT's claim: Tintnfall - 16 maaps fo laucnh, bxone alph a textures ARE fin@l assets

I made a post a few minutes ago about my confusion over the meaning of the statement. This is why I am confused.

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I thought making a picture made a better example than trying to articulate it. Is cboat not correct in stating that the textures in the alpha the final assets? Or is there more to the story that I don't know?
 

RedAssedApe

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Cboat has a history of leaks.. Some right some wrong... after this titanfall leak we are just gonna dismiss what he says from now on? Obviously this guy has connections and or works for MS... he is only telling us what he thinks is truth from people higher up.

most PR machines don't respond to these kind of things (we don't comment on rumors...etc) so you could often make an excuse for being wrong by adding disclaimers that things are fluid and can change.

so it didn't really make sense that he double-downed when Respawn comes out and directly refutes his claims.

the even nuttier conspiracy theorists think that cboat account is compromised and its a) not him posting anymore or b) him purposely posting wrong info on the behest of MS due to thread of legal action or none of the above and just him committing account suicide due to things getting a little too close with the whole ekim situation.
 

PBY

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I made a post a few minutes ago about my confusion over the meaning of the statement. This is why I am confused.

sSxOiOz.jpg


I thought a picture made a better example than trying to articulate it. Is cboat not correct in stating that the textures in the alpha the final assets? Or is there more to the story that I don't know?

stick in toMy gun s on alpha texture POSTi mad be4, btway


^Pretty sure he's talking about the textures.
 

antitrop

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Call me casual but these graphics look amazing to me. I guess i should be pissed because they aren't 1080p, right? *shrug*
I don't know exactly about amazing, but those are definitely some solid screens. If they can keep the game looking like that and lock down the framerate to a solid 60, Xbox One owners will have nothing to worry about.

Game plays like a dream, too.
 
What's the reason for banning him anyways? If the guy is a known insider and occasionally has good info, what does it matter if he's wrong a couple times?

Makes no sense.

My thought as well. Unless, like someone said, they think it was compromised. (the account)
 

krioto

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So CBOAT is 2 for 2 with his missed leaks, eh?

One for Prince of Persia reboot at E3, the other with this.

Three strikes, he's out? He definitely didn't miss the mark with Source 2.
So you're saying you nothing about nothing?
 
I don't know exactly about amazing, but those are definitely some solid screens. If they can keep the game looking like that and lock down the framerate to a solid 60, Xbox One owners will have nothing to worry about.

Game plays like a dream, too.

Agreed and honestly I found the framerates to be very good. If there was slowdown I didn't notice it.

Game looks great for me I'm happy with how it looked in the beta.
 

hawk2025

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I just want the framerate to improve, that's all.


And the fact that they only seem to talk about textures and resolution lately worries me.
 
Who gives a shit whether this validates CBOAT's earlier statements or not (even though he's proven time and time again he's to be trusted)..we should be giving a shit about the horrendous framerate on XBone.
 
Agreed and honestly I found the framerates to be very good. If there was slowdown I didn't notice it.

Game looks great for me I'm happy with how it looked in the beta.

When I played the Beta on Xbox One, I definitely noticed plenty of frame rate drops (mainly on Fracture and less so on Angel City). But Vince Zampella said they fixed most of the frame rate issues. Hopefully it should be much more stable on launch.
 

antitrop

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Who gives a shit whether this validates CBOAT's earlier statements or not (even though he's proven time and time again he's to be trusted)..we should be giving a shit about the horrendous framerate on XBone.

Yeah, that shit wasn't good. =/ Drops down to low 40s aren't cool. They gotta fix that shit for launch.

Digital Foundry Beta framerate analysis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_yRdB5plvg

The drops were extremely consistent, too. If you look at the graph, you can see exactly where any little bit of action is coming up.
 
Conspiracy theories will be running wild, as this is highly unlike his usual brevity. That confidence says something, too. What? That's for those in the know to know and the conspiracy theorists to theorize.
 

RedAssedApe

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Well...

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My screens from the X1 version.

looks pretty good to me. although this type of game you aren't ever really standing around oogling at the scenery in the first place so graphics are always going to be secondary to how the game plays, map design, etc.

i don't think too many people care about how the game looks after having played it. not to beat a dead horse...but that's what made cboats focus on titan falls graphics even more strange. party chat and # of maps is one thing but why harp on something when we already knew the graphics weren't going to blow anyone away.
 
So if I'm understanding this correctly, all this drama is over a difference of 72p's?

Its as if the influence of The Darklord Flareon crept from underneath its domicile in the PC in the TPP thread and came here to poison and corrupt the minds of the mods and ask for blood on the alter of the most exalted in the annuls of GAF history. The Dark Prophecy is beginning to be fulfilled with no Savior in sight. Helix have mercy...
 
This is only true of closed betas with an NDA. If you do an open beta with no restrictions on disclosure you are implicitly asking for people to judge the game based on what you have provided. An open beta is a pre-release hype tool more than a legitimate testing environment; think of it more like a public free demo, because that's exactly how the publishers think of it.

It's fair to judge the beta that way, but if you're going to judge the final game on what is assuredly old code, that's just being either stubborn or ignorant.
 
Titanfall is an amazing game that has way more strategy than I initially anticipated. This site is so funny. Sometimes it's the gameplay that matters, other times it's the graphics. Titanfall seems to be a nice blend of the two and yet we still have haters. I will not play this game religiously but I will certainly enjoy my time with it. I love you gaf!

I'm on your side.
I didn't have any problems with V Sync or those super annoying things you guys mention. Ok, yes, textures are not a WOW factor...but guess what? I miss playing that darng game!
 

Gator86

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i have to hand it to you for keeping the equality there

I don't understand how Penello still exists then. He came in here and told completely ridiculous lies for months prior to the Bone launch. Almost every single post of his was objectively false and he hasn't been banned.
 

kpaadet

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CBOAT might get banned yet Penello hasn't, is it only insiders that are not allowed to spread misinformation? Not trying to be a dick, I honestly want to know.
 

xkramz

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I don't understand how Penello still exists then. He came in here and told completely ridiculous lies for months prior to the Bone launch. Almost every single post of his was objectively false and he hasn't been banned.
Those weren't leaks though..
 
So by calling Alpha final, the beta doesn't look that bad.

Good job. You convinced us that the beta was good enough even though its pretty tame.

R.I.P. CBOAT. ntkrnl got you good.
 
It's fair to judge the beta that way, but if you're going to judge the final game on what is assuredly old code, that's just being either stubborn or ignorant.

You might as well say you can never judge a game since they can always be patched. A publisher does not release a beta for hundreds of thousands of people to play if they aren't confident it's representative of the final product. An open beta is not an incomplete game, it's a sales pitch.

If you're expecting much to change from open beta to release, especially in under a month's time, prepare for sore disappointment.
 
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