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Final Fantasy Type-0 (Fan) Translation Released
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Erm, the game is part of the Fabula Nova Crystallis thing. FF15 is too, so look forward to it. The whole point of the setup was for games to have different takes on a similar mythology.
FF13, Type-0 and FF15 all use the terms differently. l'Cie in Type-0 does not mean the same thing it did in FF13.
Yeah I'm aware they used the same mythos, that doesn't mean they can't pick and choose what to keep and what garbage to throw out. XV is also supposed to have very little/no connections to the other games. If they know what's best for them they'll keep it entirely separate.
Then I'll be skipping the cutscenes in XV as well. Why can't they just keep it all separate like XII and earlier?
BUT IT SEEMS SCARY ; ;;; ; ; ;It'll be super simple stuff to rip it with a CFW PSP, and it'll take a few minutes to turn any PSP into one!
Amazon US has it for $38, so get on that. lol
Nothing to fear, my friend. Dive <3
UberTag
Member
I always knew Byakuya Togami had no balls. He just talks a big game.
What have you got to lose?
The "connections" that Type-0 and FF15 have with FF13 are words. They're words, with different meanings. I think you're being silly, but it's your prerogative.
Esper was used in FF6. Eidolon was used in FF9 and FF13, Type-0, and the new translation of FF4. Oh dear.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
Is the game fully playable on PPSSPP?
They mean something different, it doesn't matter. They're just using the same word, it's not that big of a deal.
They mean something different, it doesn't matter. They're just using the same word, it's not that big of a deal.
You'll understand that after XIII, XIII-2 and XIII-3 I have very little faith in Square-Enix in this area. I have faith they can deliver quality gameplay in a handheld game, because they haven't faltered there, but storywise I'm going to cut and run at the first sign of any bullshit.
What does that have to do with the word?
You could actually enjoy the story but then you skipped over it because lol one word.
Toriyama had nothing to do with Type-0. At all.
fallingdove
Member
I may have missed this earlier in the thread but is the patch working with PS3 cfw? I tried to get my JP copy working on the latest version of rogero a while back and was unable to - wondering if this patch brings with it some secret sauce.
Er-So what does that have to do with the word "L'Cie" and it being completely different (or not) from FF13's form of "L'Cie?"
When you talk about Square-Enix the company just be aware that encompasses multiple teams working on separate distinct projects and it would be a mistake to necessarily dismiss one project due to the faults of another (even with the shared mythos).
Insofar as it means 'special individuals bestowed unique power via the crystals'. The details are different for each game.
I'm pretty sure co-op works over PPSSPP + Adhocserver, though you'll most likely have to follow procedures. They can be found on the PPSSPP multiplayer forum, which I imagine is on fire right about now.
Is he seriously skipping all cutscenes because of one word?
Yeah, I was picking a title with a less-than-stellar reception. :E
But no, seriously, in that case you should be skipping cutscenes for many other reasons, rather than the use of a single term. Your prerogative, etc.
I did the same thing in XIII and XIII-2? I don't like wasting my time and understand that gameplay can be good (XIII-2, XIII-3 apparently) with the story still being awful.
Is he really going to skip cutscenes because of one word?
EmptySpace
Banned
bullshit because you don't like the word?
geez. did ff13 kidnap your dog or something?
the words are used differently, maybe of even different definitions (i don't know since i never bothered with ff13 and all the crap that came after).
it's already bullshit before you even gave it a chance? how assuming of you to dump on the story just by reading a word in the first 5 minutes of the game.
DarknessTear
Banned
A word makes a story awful. Gotcha. We can still ignore people on this forum, right? Doing that.
Zomba13
Member
You mean like they kept it separate with Wedge and Biggs, chocobos, Cids, Jobs, classes, spell names, item names, enemies etc? Just because they share a name doesn't mean they are exactly the same thing.
SoulUnison
Banned
Can people just not handle fictional mythologies anymore, or something?
A lot of games are making me feel, lately, like the first time a player comes across something he has to think about in relation to past information or research in-game, or even just admit he doesn't understand and wait for the game to provide exposition on it, they immediately call the game "convoluted" and decide that they're above "effort", somehow.
Everybody's all "I want games to tell great stories!" but when they try, people go "It's impenetrable!"
Shouldn't that be a bulletpoint? Like, in every major FF thread, the title should have that disclaimer.
Zomba13
Member
It's why every game now has to be welcoming for the new comer. Even the last entry in an epic space opera trilogy. Even the billionth entry into a Japanese RPG. No references, no callbacks, no shared mythos just tutorial and characters explaining every little detail to the player.
Yoyoenix91
Neo Member
Game is still running well, but now I can't tell if my audio is staticy or not. I'm fighting the first boss with the lasers that come down from above. Is it staticy, or just... noisy intentionally?
Also, still can't figure out why I'm getting screen tearing during fullscreen. This happens for all games... even Corpse Party. I have Vsync enabled in the emulator options, and forced through driver settings with Nvidia. I even tried forcing it with Nvidia Inspector.
Weird.
Also, still can't figure out why I'm getting screen tearing during fullscreen. This happens for all games... even Corpse Party. I have Vsync enabled in the emulator options, and forced through driver settings with Nvidia. I even tried forcing it with Nvidia Inspector.
Weird.
SoulUnison
Banned
Well people need to understand that Final Fantasy, and RPGs in general, are never really going to be "popcorn movies/games."
If you're looking for something that's just going to spell itself out to you and that you can just cruise through gleaning the bullet points here and there, maybe you need to find a game that works for you, instead of complaining that the game that does what it advertised doesn't deign to hold your hand through every little interaction.
I'm tired of hearing how "terrible' 13 was from people whose only exposure to it has been through message board and memes about it being disappointing, to the point that anything tangentially related to it must share all the same qualities, negative or not.
It's not one word but the trigger to it. I can understand why it seems stupid, so let me clarify.
Square-Enix has not done a good story in many years (OPINION). This is heavily to do with Toriyama but not exclusive to him, The last game from them with a story I haven't disliked was TWEWY (2007). They can still do great gameplay, and I am fine with playing a JRPG without having a story. I've heard good things about Type-0's gameplay. But watching an intro video using the same shitty buzzwords as past games, from a company that I have no faith in makes me want to skip the story. It's not the specific word, but their usage and past history that makes me feel that they aren't going to be competent in that particular area.
(And while we're bringing up chocobos, hoo boy that song from XIII-2 brings up awful memories)
And I don't think I've read anyone actually say that the story is worth playing for. Everyone has mention that l'Cie doesn't mean the same thing. Nobody is saying (yet) that the story is actually amazing.
I pretty much hated FFXIII myself but you do realize Agito and Versus were both part of that Fabula Nova Crystallis trilogy thing. Each game is different and but has a connection to the XIII universe as a whole. And since they have different takes I'm not sure what the big deal about I'Cie being in that universe, even if you weren't a fan of XIII.
Yoyoenix91
Neo Member
As for that last bit, to be fair, many of us are just now playing and actually understanding the story. It isn't surprising to not see a lot of praise for the plot yet, like you said.
Forgetting anything you felt about the previous FF entries that used the terms that trigger you, is there anything seriously wrong?
I've never seen someone triggered by terminology before. Just try to push forward, past those bad memories, you might find that you like this entry.
SoulUnison
Banned
"Buzzwords."
l'Cie isn't "Blast Processing." It's not "the power of the Cell." It's not "fish AI."
It's a word that has to do with the mythology of the universe the game takes place in. You mention you liked TWEWY, but that game had plenty of "buzzwords" denoting internal universal mechanics that propped up the world the game took place in.
Did you get sick of hearing things like "imprint," "vibe," "UG," "reaper," "Composer," etc., etc.?
What would you think if there were a TWEWY 2 and I was in the OT complaining about not understanding the differences between the UG and the RG and wherever Angels come from, or something? Would that be as legitimate as you givin up on Type-0 because you heard a reference to a game that apparently murdered your dog, or something? Or would you just dismiss me as someone who wasn't putting in the minimum effort to unravel the narrative I was getting into?
Well, I do think that's due to the fact that the vast majority of people simply haven't played Type-0 before.
Anyway, you're just gonna have to make a judgement for yourself whether the story is worthwhile. You can't simply dismiss it out of hand without having given it a chance, right?
PaulExcellent
Member
Do iiiiiiiiiiiiiit.
Seriously, it's like, 10 minutes of work.
After that? You can experience the world of CFW.
also get gundam vs gundam next plus and patch the menus to english and play~
Here are two reviews, first one is from Kagari, and both are pretty positive:
http://www.rpgsite.net/review/3087-final-fantasy-type-0-import-review
http://www.gamefaqs.com/psp/951986-final-fantasy-type-0/reviews/review-153010
Here is what Kagari said about the mythos:
About the story:
Zomba13
Member
Guides I used to get CFW and rip some games today. Took like no time at all to get running and the CFW only lasts until you power it down. Longest thing was charging my PSP so I had enough power to run the 6.60 official update.
Used this guide for the CFW: http://digiex.net/guides-reviews/con...-go-e1000.html
and this for ripping: http://digiex.net/guides-reviews/con...umd-games.html
freshmendontod
Member
After updating my CFW to pro- c, I finally got to watch that opening scene. Seriously one of the stronger openings to a Final Fantasy game in a very long time. This was worth the wait.
Again, it's not specifically the word itself, it's just a signal to me that Square-Enix is still stuck in their storytelling rut. Because of this thread I did go and research Type-0 a bit and from reading the wiki, I couldn't see the term L'Cie being significantly different and saw that the lead scenario writer (Hiroki Chiba) held the same position on Dirge of Cerberus, and Director & Scenario Designer (Hajime Tabata) was involved with Crisis Core, another title that I do not think favorably of. It's my fault for using hyperbole/overly dismissive statements, but basically Square-Enix's history + staff involved in the title + use of terminology that I associate with poor quality story = an instinct to skip the story.
Now if someone who has played the game wants to tell me "yes, it's fucking amazing, it's Square's return to form and you're missing out" then yeah, I'll give it a chance, and clearly there are a few people who have played it here, but otherwise I'm really fine with just the gameplay.
Thank you!
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Deleted member 20920
Unconfirmed Member
I think it's silly to skip the story just because of the word l'cie. It is as innocuous as calling it warrior of light, which is what the role of a l'cie is anyway. They used a different term to give different implications to what it means to be given power by the crystals. A more grey take on how we used to perceived great power from the gods/crystals to be blessings just because. That's why the mythology is the new tale of the crystals. A good narrative comes with its own terms and it is certainly it's just a buzzword. To hate the term is like hating the terms Warrior of Light and crystal (and their equivalents) and skipping all story in the FF franchise because you somehow hated FF1.
In any case, I think that the story is much stronger than the XIII games and does a lot more than what XIII did with its world and plot. I thought the world building was really good and my main complaint would be that they sacrifice the uniqueness of towns. They had quantity over quality and the world was really mostly three nations filled with small outposts, rather than a game that contains many unique towns.
Another thing would be that to get all the scenes, you'll need to play through the game twice.
Never understood the hate for the terms in XIII. They were also terms that they explained repeatedly in the dialogue so people must have been dreaming of something.
EDIT:
One way to negotiate this is to remember that the games are ultimately not connected. Think of FF1, FF3 and FF5. All three revolves around the concept of Crystals being the source of the world and how they can give people unique powers (namely jobs). They made 3 games that had very different plots based on that skeleton alone. What XIII, Type-0 and XV are doing is the exactly the same. They're taking a skeleton mythology and using that to build whatever story they want. If it helps, the l'cies in the game are not really the focus, at least not as much as in XIII. Neither are fal'cie nor the gods.
Dice//
Banned
I wish the FNC mithos was more interesting.... at least, FF13 didn't sell me on it. Does it get a bit better with Type-0?
HappehLemons
Member
Is it possible to rewatch past cutscenes using the codex or another method?
Yep. Every scene is available in the codex.