SliceSabre
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I thought it all boiled down to "TIGER KNEE" course I'm awful at SF.
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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 10: Against the Odds, We Choose to Hype!
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If Brawl didn't have tripping, many people still wouldn't enjoy playing it. Movement mechanics can make a game more or less fun. Plenty of people here say they hate Little Big Planet because of the weird jumping mechanics, and they're entitled to that opinion.
kuroneko0509
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Wow nice. Can you make a 1920x1080 version btw?
He said all the characters felt trapped in the game engine. Combos and movement were both limited. All that sounds pretty reasonably negative. People like to point to 'still in development', but do we honestly expect big changes this late in the game? Maybe they'll cut down a little on landing lag, but the team isn't going to stop and say "Yeah, they're right. The direction we've been going with the game this whole time is off."
I totally agree that we need more time with it though. Having several great players get a few days with it to experiment + a brief public demo is about the best we could hope for. However, no matter what, a few days isn't enough to get a strong feel for the game. We have no idea what is and isn't possible with this game. The future is still potentially bright.
OricWindstar
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These are looking great!
If no one will watch you compete, no one will sponsor you. It matters in the competitive realm quite a bit.
For the average player, all the matters is if it's fun
That's all I care about. Being accepted and played by the fighting community is a big bonus that will give the game some legs and make some people play it more often (in the same way that kids play sports because they watch them on TV).PadWarrior
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Yea I'm just itching to get my hands on him. Wish there was a character in brawl that was almost like him so I could practice
Can you make a version of this without the sword icon in the background?
mentallyinept
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Yeah, OG Sagat was crazy strong.
Not75Drops
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No, you'll get it today.
Troubled Bat
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I don't think I ever said anything to you but I don't have a good memory and a lot of you blend together sometimes.
There are a few people who I've seen gone "Yeah, that's why I've put him on ignore", so it was just more of a general thing.
JStein0222
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What do ya'll think the effect of having the 3DS version will be on the community? Will it satiate Smash desire or will hype be stronger than ever for the Wii U release?
Kor of Memory
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I don't know what this is. >_>
I'm assuming it was before my time (here).
Man, people are hating on Chrom.
So what you're telling me is that you think it's a possibility for them to make a game, add a mechanic to all of the characters, and then be removing it in the midst of E3? That's... nonsensical. It makes more sense for them to offer the ability to select characters.
I guess this is true. I'm not a player anywhere near good enough to get a sponsorship or win a large prize pot, but for those people viewership definitely would matter.If no one will watch you compete, no one will sponsor you. It matters in the competitive realm quite a bit.
For the average player, all the matters is if it's fun
She's awesome that's why.
My guess is she will probably a slightly faster Marth and when that is coupled with a Falchion that is balanced damage-wise, you could probably rack up more damage without having to have gawd-like tipper play. It also helps that it's a whole different game so what may have been great in the past may not be in Smash 4. I am really excited for Lucina and Robin so I completely satisfied with the roster now. Syrup by some miracle would be icing on the cake.
Instant classic. A snapshot in time. Captures the zeitgeist.
PadWarrior
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Beautiful!
mentallyinept
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LOL. 10/10.
Toon Link and Donkey Kong got robbed again. I think Zelda and Shiek have the same one too (once again).
Donkey Kong's could've been that thing he does when landing a bunch of final blows on bosses in Tropical Freeze. That would have felt satisfying enough.
sorakirosaki
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u are a good person lol
ShockingAlberto
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A friend suggested yesterday that Pittoo would be added as a clone of Brawl Pit with the same moves.
Which actually makes sense considering his character's abilities.
Which actually makes sense considering his character's abilities.
Troubled Bat
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Somebody color that Little Mac in and make an avatar. Lol.
My sides...Make it stop.
I know you weren't singling anyone out, I was just saying what I thought.
I do agree with what you are saying, but try not to look at it that way cause it will influence the way I post lol.
MrSaturn99
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Saying you'd want the game to fail to pretty terrible, but I'd like to imagine he'd change his mind by now (especially after the invitational).
Personally, I'm just dreading the overall shitstorm when the game launches
also LOL at the Captain Falcon comic
Personally, I'm just dreading the overall shitstorm when the game launches
also LOL at the Captain Falcon comic
It's safe to say tripping was the reason Brawl was never taken serious.
I don't care who went and played it at the invitational. That wasn't nearly enough time to make an accurate assessment. I've been in the fighting game community more than half my almost 30 year life. We didn't have proper Location Testing, yet. A few days at Best Buys isn't enough. A day or two at E3 isn't enough.
There will be differences. And whatever was easiest to find out, won't be the end of those differences. To write it off almost half a
year prior to it's release based on so little time is dumb.
I don't understand why this is even an argument.
OricWindstar
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Oh my God! That Chrom / Falcon comic is amazing! It really depresses me I knew exactly what is was referencing immediately.
Looking at this picture again, I think Lucina might have a taunt where she puts her mask on, and inputting the taunt a second time would remove it (like Guile's sunglasses taunt in Street Fighter).
I still think Dark Pit is going to be a boss. Or at least a stage hazard like Nabbit or something.
I think that it's just her fight intro, although I would love that idea.
Brawl pit used the shield which is one of the sacred treasures. In Uprising Pittoo never uses the sacred treasures (if I recall). I think it's more appropriate if he uses some of the weapons he uses in chapter 6 (Violet palm, EZ canon, ogre club, dark pit staff). Also his main weapon would be his silver bow.
You mean like having the glide mechanics, etc, because Pittoo had superior flight for most of Uprising?
I think it makes more sense to outfit Pittoo with a number of weapons not yet represented by Pit or the items any player can pick up. There are so many awesome weapons in Uprising. I'd love to see Pittoo swing the Ogre Club and hear it roar.
And the Final Smash would definitely need to be different. Wouldn't make sense for Pittoo to use the Three Sacred Treasures.
The real question is how do they make him visually distinct from Pit. Change his idle animations? Make his alternate colors different shades of black (like Sonic with the color blue)?
Mr. Smiley
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Not in the midst of E3, no, the Demo is from a while before E3, we've known this for some time now.
I'm saying that they took the current version they had around april/may, polished it up, localised it and used it for the demo.
It's perfectly plausible that they were in the process of making sure every character couldn't duck whilst dashing (I doubt they added in crouch cancelling and then removed it, it's more like they just created the code for dashing and then found out you could still crouch and didn't like it so decided to start removing it) when they took the build to make the demo with.
But at the same time, you'd think the movement code would be part of some parent class inherited by all the characters whose own attributes affect how it works, so it's peculiar that Bowser would have it at all.
Maybe only specific characters will be able to crouch cancel now, but it seems like it would be better to just give everyone the ability, and it seems like we would have seen other characters able to do it (There's also the fact that he couldn't do it on the WiiU version as far as I know).
I disagree.
Tripping was not, in and of itself, the reason why Brawl wasn't taken seriously.
Has anyone seen the crazy cutscenes from story mode for f-zero gx?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlFHjOk7FzQ&feature=kp
I love the star-wars-esque world he comes from. Also, his voice acting in that game was silly.
EmCeeGramr
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I do think that if SSB4 remains slower and more defensive, that the community at least seriously consider the idea of making matches 3 stock/5 minutes instead of continuing to stick with Melee's 4 stock/8 minutes like they did with Brawl, which was absolutely ridiculous in cases like Meta Knight mirrors on Smashville.
That would be so cool, kinda like an in-game alt selection. I'm just so happy she's a full-on character. I got one of my most-desired!
Just Black Shadow, Kumatora, and Krystal to go-- and I'm pretty sure they're all foregone conclusions at this point--!
ha, aha.. ahh.. ah. :'(
Sorry if I came off as sarcastic or anything. I actually agree with you here.
I don't think we should write it off. I just don't have a lot of hope that any of the already reworked core mechanics will be overhauled again. The hope is that we all learn to play to the strengths of the new game and make it exciting on its own terms.
Not meant to be much of an argument I guess, since I don't have a very strong point. I guess I'm just saying that we have reasons to be both positive and negative, but assuming the best is just as farfetched to me as assuming the worst.
If Brawl didn't have random tripping, it would still be a very similar game to how it is now.
Simplifying the issues in Brawl to tripping ignores other huge issues like the safety of the ledge, the brokeness of Metaknight, the lack of punishment for making a mistake (Save for infinite grabs), and the increased landing lag for all aerials. Then there are really silly things like random input delay.
Agreed. Brawl matches honestly need to be reduced to 2 stocks; 3 is too much.
OricWindstar
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Yeah, that whole game is so ridiculous. And hard as fuck. Man, I hope Sakurai's Miiverse comment was hinting they're developing a new F-Zero.
Of course it's not.
We should have 5 stock/no timer be the standard for smash 4 like it is in 64, I'm sure the FGC would love to see that at EVO!
Hours Left
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Ewwwwww, the F-Zero anime should never be referenced.
On the positive side, there won't be any gliding shenanigans in smash 4 to prolong battles .
Primarily by keeping pit's bow gold and pittoo's bow silver. Their eye color is different, too, so keep that consistent. Same w/ pit's red gem and dark pit's purple gem. Maybe keep the wings white and black as well. Everything else can change.
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