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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread XI: Where 90% correct equals 100% wrong

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The E Tank would have no context as a series logo — it’s just a block with the letter E on it. The Donkey Kong and Metroid logos contain letters, but they actually stand for the characters they’re representing — “E” is for energy, and it’s just a generic health recovery item. It would be like representing the Pokémon series with a potion bottle.

The helmet could work, but none of the other suggestions are any better than the random cog, honestly.
Very few of the icons afford any context to people not familiar with the series - like the MOTHER icon discussed above. The E-Tank would be no different - without real context to those not familiar with Mega Man, but immediately recognizable to those that are. In Japan, at least, it was even considered iconic enough to be made into its own energy drink, design and all!

I mean, Ice Climbers' icon is a generic collectable item with little specific significance to them, but it's still better than if their icon had just been, say, a pair of cleats or an ice pick.

Really, anything that is actually an item in the series would have been better than the cog. Even if it had been a Metal Blade, like some were speculating, that would have at least had some relationship to Mega Man. A cog is just... a cog. It could be an icon for literally any robot character.
 

BGBW

Maturity, bitches.
For what it's worth, when UniQlo had Megaman tshirts the E tank was one of the icons they used:

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I believe the other design was just a Megaman sprite. So it's not an odd choice for representing him.
 
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When we can have The Blue Marble as the Mother icon I can't imagine Mega Man's helmet would've been too complicated.

Either Capcom's rebooting the series secretly and using that as a logo (lol), or someone cheaped out on giving him an icon.

It's a flat ball with scribbles on ONE layer though, a shape that kids are able draw and recognize whether they heard of Earthbound or not. It being flat also fits the aesthetics of the incredible simplified symbols. Megaman's helmet is best identifiable as a 3D shape or a flat shape with depth. That picture posted earlier only works because it has multiple layers. It has a perceivable depth. Removing that back layer that has the back of the helmet would only be recognizable by the long time Mega man fans.

Looking at these aesthetics, whoever the artist is, wanted something so that all players can easily identify and relate it to the character. Even if it's something as the ScrewAttack symbol mistakenly identified as "Samus symbol because of the S." The cog, obviously, means mechanical hence robot hence Megaman.

I rather they weren't so simple and an E-Tank would have been so much better aesthetically representing, but that's my take.
 

georly

Member
Very few of the icons afford any context to people not familiar with the series - like the MOTHER icon discussed above. The E-Tank would be no different - without real context to those not familiar with Mega Man, but immediately recognizable to those that are. In Japan, at least, it was even considered iconic enough to be made into its own energy drink, design and all!

I mean, Ice Climbers' icon is a generic collectable item with little specific significance to them, but it's still better than if their icon had just been, say, a pair of cleats or an ice pick.

Really, anything that is actually an item in the series would have been better than the cog. Even if it had been a Metal Blade, like some were speculating, that would have at least had some relationship to Mega Man. A cog is just... a cog. It could be an icon for literally any robot character.

Exactly. The E-tank is as iconic to Megaman as the *MUSHROOM* is to mario. As it happens, the mushroom is mario's logo (not an M).

I mean, if merch exists for it, it's iconic.

That said, the E-tank probably isn't the best fit for him. The helmet is probably the best.
 

Ryce

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Very few of the icons afford any context to people not familiar with the series - like the MOTHER icon discussed above.
I disagree. "Mother Earth," "EarthBound," and so on. I think it's the best potential logo to represent that series, and I wasn't aware people didn't like it.

The E-Tank would be no different - without real context to those not familiar with Mega Man, but immediately recognizable to those that are. In Japan, at least, it was even considered iconic enough to be made into its own energy drink, design and all!
It makes sense for an energy drink to be based off an energy tank, but it being "iconic" isn't the problem here -- it's that a block with the letter E on it doesn't really convey anything about the Mega Man series. Granted, the cog isn't a great idea either, but at least that's a common symbol for robotics.

I mean, Ice Climbers' icon is a generic collectable item with little specific significance to them, but it's still better than if their icon had just been, say, a pair of cleats or an ice pick.
Collecting vegetables is one of Ice Climber's major goals, so the eggplant icon makes perfect sense. It's what the game is about.
 

afoni

Banned
If there was any character that would have worked with a sprite for their series icon, it would have been Megaman. Especially so, considering his look and moved are inspired by 8-bit Megaman.
 

Toxi

Banned
It's a flat ball with scribbles on ONE layer though, a shape that kids are able draw and recognize whether they heard of Earthbound or not. It being flat also fits the aesthetics of the incredible simplified symbols. Megaman's helmet is best identifiable as a 3D shape or a flat shape with depth. That picture posted earlier only works because it has multiple layers. It has a perceivable depth. Removing that back layer that has the back of the helmet would only be recognizable by the long time Mega man fans.

Looking at these aesthetics, whoever the artist is, wanted something so that all players can easily identify and relate it to the character. Even if it's something as the ScrewAttack symbol mistakenly identified as "Samus symbol because of the S." The cog, obviously, means mechanical hence robot hence Megaman.

I rather they weren't so simple and an E-Tank would have been so much better aesthetically representing, but that's my take.
I'd probably have a harder time drawing the blue marble from memory than Mega Man's helmet.
 

Zubz

Banned
A helmet would be sweet. Like the Sonic head and pac head

Honestly, I was surprised when I saw the cog. It made sense thematically to do a helmet or 8-Bit Head to match Sonic's icon, and now Pac-Man's makes it even more conspicuous. Besides, Mega Man's the most sprite-based character playstyle-wise and in terms of relevancy; the cog just feels... Weird.
 
I'm out of town for most of this week, and international data rates for AT&T are absolutely obscene ($19.99/MB - I'm assuming that's no typo, since they're trying to sell me capped plans like 120MB for $30). Nevertheless, borrowing my brother's laptop to get the clean images out here:

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...but I expect these'll be coming a bit slower, as such.
 

Ahnez

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I'll accept him as a replacement to Grey Fox even though his games haven't been on a Nintendo system yet.



You have to change the controller to beat it / make it go away.
Maybe Psycho Mantis could mess with the control config of the other players (like setting jump to R, specials to X..) while he is on screen
 
I'd probably have a harder time drawing the blue marble from memory than Mega Man's helmet.

Don't do this,

It's planet earth, many of the world population can identify it without it being super accurate. Even the Earthbound one is inaccurate.

I've seen some good, simplified helmet designs for his logo and they definitely work. NO more complicated than what other people use.

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I know I'm late in responding to this but I like it. A lot. It adheres to being one layer, incredibly simple, which is good. I'd want it.

But I still don't think they'd accept it because it still gives off the sense of a 3D shape with depth despite being flat, simplified and one layer. I don't know man. I'm really trying to understand why not the helmet after seeing this. The Earthbound symbol just isn't comparable when comparing aesthetics.

Fake edit:

I just remembered R.O.Bs symbol being partially 3D in sense. Never mind it all.
 

Neiteio

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Can someone make the following mockup, with the flame backdrops and all?

Four rows of 13 each. Mii Fighters, Random, and Add-On Fighters each have their own banner at the top. (On the 3DS version, their banners would be on the touchscreen)

01 - Mario
02 - Luigi
03 - Bowser
04 - Peach
05 - Rosalina & Luma
06 - Koopa Crew
07 - Dr. Mario
08 - Yoshi
09 - Wario
10 - Donkey Kong
11 - Diddy Kong
12 - Villager
13 - Wii Fit Trainer

14 - Link
15 - Zelda
16 - Sheik
17 - Ganondorf
18 - Toon Link
19 - Samus
20 - Zero Suit Samus
21 - Pit
22 - Palutena
23 - Dark Pit
24 - Kirby
25 - King Dedede
26 - Meta Knight

27 - Pikachu
28 - Charizard
29 - Lucario
30 - Greninja
31 - Jigglypuff
32 - Fox
33 - Falco
34 - Wolf
35 - Little Mac
36 - Ice Climbers
37 - Shulk
38 - Chorus Kids
39 - Duck Hunt Dog

40 - Marth
41 - Ike
42 - Lucina
43 - Robin
44 - Pikmin & Olimar
45 - Captain Falcon
46 - Ness
47 - Lucas
48 - R.O.B.
49 - Mr. Game & Watch
50 - Sonic
51 - Mega Man
52 - Pac-Man

Banner tab at top: Mii Fighters

Banner tab at top: RANDOM

Banner tab at top: Add-On Fighters
 

Kyzon

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Honestly, I was surprised when I saw the cog. It made sense thematically to do a helmet or 8-Bit Head to match Sonic's icon, and now Pac-Man's makes it even more conspicuous. Besides, Mega Man's the most sprite-based character playstyle-wise and in terms of relevancy; the cog just feels... Weird.

Exactly. He needs his head :(
 

Berordn

Member
Don't do this,

It's planet earth, many of the world population can identify it without it being super accurate. Even the Earthbound one is inaccurate.

Because it's based on a very specific photograph of Earth and the icon they made features the clouds from that image in addition to landmass as well as being depicted from a different orientation than usually shown on globes and maps.

It's not an uncomplicated image, and certainly not simpler than Mega Man's helmet, either from an angle (as Georly shows), or head-on, like in the 1-up sprite. Anyone can draw something that looks like Earth, but the Mother icon is a very specific Earth.
 

Toxi

Banned
Tabuu's like the most generic boring lameass design ever.

WHOO A GLOWING FLOATING GODLIKE HUMANOID WHO LOOKS LIKE THE FINAL BOSS OF THE MOST GENERIC JRPG EVER SO CREATIVE

It's disappointing that Tabuu came from the imagination of the same guy who gave us Marx.

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ffdgh

Member
Tabuu's like the most generic boring lameass design ever.

WHOO A GLOWING FLOATING GODLIKE HUMANOID WHO LOOKS LIKE THE FINAL BOSS OF THE MOST GENERIC JRPG EVER SO CREATIVE

It's disappointing that Tabuu came from the imagination of the same guy who gave us Marx.

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Marx soul for the true boss rush. Ear shattering death scream included!
 

Caladrius

Member
Tabuu's like the most generic boring lameass design ever.

It's disappointing that Tabuu came from the imagination of the same guy who gave us Marx.

I don't think Sakurai does the Smash character designs. He does sign off on them, but he doesn't make 'em up.
 
Does this means that she has customizations that change the concept of the move? :p

No, it still does roughly the same thing, just Luma grows large to protect her while she's doing it.

(The two Gravitational Pull customizations are called "Guardian Luma" and "Catch & Release")
 

afoni

Banned
Wouldn't that be crazy hand? :p

they're both canon in my eyes but i spent a lot of time as a kid killing master hand over and over so in my eyes master hand is the only canon one

melee jumped the shark

two hands?

bullshit

i adjusted though
 

Neiteio

Member
Just bumping this polite request for the new page. :)

Can someone make the following mockup, with the flame backdrops and all?

Four rows of 13 each. Mii Fighters, Random, and Add-On Fighters each have their own banner at the top. (On the 3DS version, their banners would be on the touchscreen)

01 - Mario
02 - Luigi
03 - Bowser
04 - Peach
05 - Rosalina & Luma
06 - Koopa Crew
07 - Dr. Mario
08 - Yoshi
09 - Wario
10 - Donkey Kong
11 - Diddy Kong
12 - Villager
13 - Wii Fit Trainer

14 - Link
15 - Zelda
16 - Sheik
17 - Ganondorf
18 - Toon Link
19 - Samus
20 - Zero Suit Samus
21 - Pit
22 - Palutena
23 - Dark Pit
24 - Kirby
25 - King Dedede
26 - Meta Knight

27 - Pikachu
28 - Charizard
29 - Lucario
30 - Greninja
31 - Jigglypuff
32 - Fox
33 - Falco
34 - Wolf
35 - Little Mac
36 - Ice Climbers
37 - Shulk
38 - Chorus Kids
39 - Duck Hunt Dog

40 - Marth
41 - Ike
42 - Lucina
43 - Robin
44 - Pikmin & Olimar
45 - Captain Falcon
46 - Ness
47 - Lucas
48 - R.O.B.
49 - Mr. Game & Watch
50 - Sonic
51 - Mega Man
52 - Pac-Man

Banner tab at top: Mii Fighters

Banner tab at top: RANDOM

Banner tab at top: Add-On Fighters
 

ffdgh

Member
they're both canon in my eyes but i spent a lot of time as a kid killing master hand over and over so in my eyes master hand is the only canon one

melee jumped the shark

two hands?

bullshit

i adjusted though

Haha memories. Can't wait to fight them in smash 4 and hope they get some new attacks.......wait. We haven't see 3DS's final destination. Sakurai plz...
 
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