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[GHG]

As someone who owns both consoles, sometimes I wish the Xbox was equal to the PS4 in hardware just so I can play third party games on it.

Looking at my Xbox library it's titanfall, forza and sunset

My xbox one is basically a forza box for me at the moment. No point getting inferior multiplats for the console "just because" or for trivial OS features.

 

[ElTorro]

 

[SEGAvangelist]

If one performs better than the other, it doesn't "deserve" the same score.
(For example: 9.0 and 8.5, or 90% and 86%. Something like that.)

PS3 version should be 80% and 360 79%.

Grass-station is beautiful. You need to Banderas this gif, though.

 

[tbm24]

If one performs better than the other, it doesn't "deserve" the same score.
(For example: 9.0 and 8.5, or 90% and 86%. Something like that.)

Last I checked they aren't providing a score(unless I missed it somehow).

 

[digoutyoursoul]

I bet it has a MR and an X in it.

Your sneering and snarkyness is getting ridiculous

 

[Piggus]

http://abload.de/img/grassgate3gj9u.gif[IMG][/QUOTE]

hehehe

 

[Mastperf]

You guys are killing me.

 

[Dead Prince]

well if they played Driveclub they'd know. i mean did you see the thousands of trees in that game?

 

[Anion]

It is.

Had to swing the camera into the air to find a deer/buck. Couldn't see the darn thing.

That's a lot better than those other pictures lol.

 

[dr. apocalipsis]

You're asking this four pages in? It's good that this topic isn't shitting up the OT.

We were talking about DF analysis here.

Firsts pages of this thread were a recap of that one.

Why do you imply that the only GTA5 difference is grass? What about DF pointing out the ps4 hold 30fps better and the Xbox one is missing lighting effects? (Lens flare)

Are you claiming that the differences on DRD were the same or lower than GTAV's?

 

[GribbleGrunger]

Your sneering and snarkyness is getting ridiculous

Are you certain you're not mixing me up with someone else?

 

[njean777]

As someone who owns both consoles, sometimes I wish the Xbox was equal to the PS4 in hardware just so I can play third party games on it.

Looking at my Xbox library it's titanfall, forza and sunset

Or you could just stop caring and buy a game for whatever you want. That's what I do. I got GTA 5 on Xbox and could care less about grass. Though these gifs are hilarious.

 

[Journey]

I don't think its a big deal. If taking some grass off, that isn't noticeable, helps keep the xbox version at 1080p and a steady framerate then rockstar did the right thing. The alternative would be taking foliage out of the ps4 for parity and that would have been terrible. Or would people prefer 1080i or 900p 30fps with all the grass?

I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everyone.
Bill Cosby

Having full 1080p resolution at a solid framerate is definitely an excellent trade-off over some grass that no one is likely to notice unless DF is a minigame within the GTA world.

 

[John Bender]

Last I checked they aren't providing a score(unless I missed it somehow).

Of course not.
I'm talking about game reviews these days.
Hate them.

lmao!

 

[Ricky Ricardo]

But, but the PS4's CPU is weak sauce according to Ubisoft.

Err, the quote you're referencing is referring to the PS4 GPU.

Come on guys. This really isn't hard.

 

[red731]

Because grass.

Cookies everywhere.
Too true.

 

[groshkar]

Please. Just stop. Putting -gate after every "controversy" is more useless than the conversations themselves. Stop trying to make this a suffix. It's not.

I beg to differ on this point.

http://public.oed.com/aspects-of-english/english-in-use/the-gate-suffix/

Now the term is applied, sometimes humorously or bathetically, to all kinds of scandals, controversies, and upsets, with recent US and UK examples including nipplegate, climategate, and Sachsgate. Although most of these formations are short-lived, –gate itself endures, having become a fully-fledged suffix, breaking all ties with the Watergate building.

 

[StuBurns]

I don't really understand the desire to play multiplatforms across both systems just because you get less use out of one than the other. What's wrong with just playing exclusives on one? You already own it, so it's not like it's trying to justify the cost of the box.

 

[gioGAF]

Funny reading those Digital Foundry articles now that the shoe is on the other foot. I remember last gen when Red Dead Redemption had more grass on 360 and they made a big fuss about it. Now that GTA has more grass on PS4, it is negligible in their mind, shouldn't matter when you make your purchase decision, lol.

It has been the same way with almost every release. Anything that has a PS4 advantage is deemed negligible, and they go with the get it for the system with your friends on it.

I also don't understand why they include a comparison with the PC release on it. Of course the PC release will be the best one from a technical standpoint. Get the PC report out of there, make it its own article. If a gamer has a PC and both consoles and they are the type of person who cares about performance/graphics, then OF COURSE they will get the PC version. As it is, all we get is the usual line of garbage from Digital Foundry.

 

[dark10x]

fine, I'll bite.

because the summary in the RDR was literally

the game, by their own words was a great purchase on the PS3 (given the greatness of the game)

yes it's been said a number of times in here "but PS3 had lower frame rate, and lower resolution". Ok, that's true. But at the same time, we see the XBONE version of GTAV having less detail. Smaller difference than RDR? Absolutely. But then again, why is it "this version is objectively better, buy it" but then GTAV "this version is objectively better. make your own choice."

the standard of the RDR article would seem to be "even though both versions are good in their own right, buy the better", yet the standard for GTAV is "even though both versions are good in their own right, buy the one you want", even though the conclusion of the lesser version of both is "your enjoyment of the game won't be impacted"

the level of "how much better/worse" is a moving target, absolutely. But in the case of one being objectively better than the other, shouldn't they be recommending the objectively better one each time?

I actually disagree with the idea that the PS3 version is "fine" if you haven't seen the 360 version. That's why I feel this is a different situation. I *DID* buy the PS3 version initially and I was supremely disappointed by the frame-rate dips. It didn't matter that I hadn't played the 360 version first - the fact that the dips were so common detracted quite a bit from the experience. When it turned out that the 360 version operates with very little slowdown AND better image quality it's hard not to just say "buy that version". I know I would.

In the case of GTA I would definitely recommend the PS4 version but the XO version is still more than good enough to warrant playing UNLIKE RDR on 360.

Also, you forget that this isn't the actual Face-off here unlike the RDR article where the actual verdict will be given.

Anything that has a PS4 advantage is deemed negligible, and they go with the get it for the system with your friends on it.

I think you're quite mistaken on this point.

 

[Mermandala]

It's all about that green.

 

[ThatsMytrunks]

I'll be picking the game up on Xbox One eventually.
I'll give the grass some time to grow.

My sides are gone.

 

[sinnergy]

Haha this thread.



But, but the PS4's CPU is weak sauce according to Ubisoft. At the end of the day this is a last-gen game, so the difference should't be immense between XBO and PS4.

It clearly states GPU? Not CPU

 

[Hermii]

fine, I'll bite.

because the summary in the RDR was literally



the game, by their own words was a great purchase on the PS3 (given the greatness of the game)

but



yes it's been said a number of times in here "but PS3 had lower frame rate, and lower resolution". Ok, that's true. But at the same time, we see the XBONE version of GTAV having less detail. Smaller difference than RDR? Absolutely. But then again, why is it "this version is objectively better, buy it" but then GTAV "this version is objectively better. make your own choice."

the standard of the RDR article would seem to be "even though both versions are good in their own right, buy the better", yet the standard for GTAV is "even though both versions are good in their own right, buy the one you want", even though the conclusion of the lesser version of both is "your enjoyment of the game won't be impacted"

the level of "how much better/worse" is a moving target, absolutely. But in the case of one being objectively better than the other, shouldn't they be recommending the objectively better one each time?

I guess they made the judgement that framerate/ resolution would impact most peoples enjoyment of the game, while grass quality will not.

 

[shandy706]

Some of the gifs are horribly trollish, but this right here is freaking hilarious.

 

[sinnergy]

How about in the meantime you link where did you read the stuff about CPU intensive scenes?

I want to, but I read a lot and I am on a lot of sites.. can't recall, can be even in one thread here.

 

[Journey]

I'll be picking the game up on Xbox One eventually.
I'll give the grass some time to grow.

OMG, this post!


This should've been the 2nd post... right after Dis gun be good gif as the first post, lol.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

Are you certain you're not mixing me up with someone else?

Certain

 

[jim2point0]

At the very least we'll have a detail distance slider like GTA 4, meaning that grass and street clutter will be visible from a much higher distance. I've noticed that on both new versions the grass is absent from any hill other than the one you're on..

Can't be as bad as Unity.

 

[lefantome]

can DF do a comparison of old vs next gen instead?

 

[ypo]

I, seemingly like a few of you, take issue with this:

"The PS4 advantage here is much more subtle - a few bonus plants and small grassy areas. Overall, this is the kind of effect where the PS4's larger GPU and higher fill-rate come to the fore, and while it shouldn't impact any purchasing decision (Xbox One is hardly barren and featureless in the affected locations),"

When was a Digital Foundry analysis an editorial? I thought they were supposed to be talking about performance, differences in effects/graphics etc and pointing people towards the best version of the game?

Just a few strands of grass here and there. Good job DF, as always.

 

[Handy Fake]

Oh. Oh bravo.

 

[bishoptl]

Magnificent.

 

[GribbleGrunger]

Certain

The grass is always greener on the other side.

 

[GenericUser]

More like Ban worthy. This isn't the gametrailers forum.

They should sticky it then ban him. Like when they used to cut off peoples heads and stick them on pikes so you could see them as you went into town. You'd know not to fuck with the law when you saw that shit!

is this really necessary? we are human beings after all ...

this thread is about grass

 

[Havel]

 

[greenegt]

As someone who owns both consoles, sometimes I wish the Xbox was equal to the PS4 in hardware just so I can play third party games on it.

Looking at my Xbox library it's titanfall, forza and sunset

My x1 is basically an exclusive machine while my PS4 buckles under the giga weight of 3rd party games.

Im fine with that though. Best of both worlds.

You guys should try a multiplat or two on XB1. The good games are still good.

 

[Dinokill]

I'll pick the better controller over some fucking grass.

 

[SRTtoZ]

I'll pick the better controller over some fucking grass.

Good thing you came into a technical discussion thread to tell us that.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

The grass is always greener on the other side.

Yep, it's great

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Yep, it's great

I preferred Gribble's unedited post. It's harder hitting.

I make very few comments. How about you look at the more lengthy posts from people who posts 100 times more than me in threads like this. I do have a knack of cutting to the bone though, I'll give you that.

 

[John Bender]

Dickie Bennett?

 

[borghe]

I'll pick the better controller over some fucking grass.

because this is TOTALLY less subjective.

Spoiler

PS4 version it is!

 

[ypo]

I'll pick the better controller over some fucking grass.

Don't forget *all my Xfriends."

 

[Violater]

Grass........what have we become.

You must not have been around for the early PS3 days.

 

[Sirim]

I honestly don't see the problem here. DF's mission statement is to point out the technical differences between versions of a game, while analyzing the overall game itself.

I for one am happy to know as much information as I can about how any version has a leg up over another. Obviously it's not a "preorder cancelled" huge outrage. But if I were on the fence over which version to get, even the smallest thing could push me over.

It's also just interesting to know stuff like this, because knowledge is cool.

 

[Mastperf]

I'll pick the better controller over some fucking grass.

Achievement Unlocked.

 

[Malcolm9]

You guys should try a multiplat or two on XB1. The good games are still good.

Well if you own both consoles and it's better on one of them wouldn't you buy that version?

 

[AgentP]

I'll pick the better controller over some fucking grass.

Someone should make a XB1 version rationalization drinking game.

 

[kpaadet]

I'll pick the better controller over some fucking grass.

Cool, I will also pick the console with my favorite controller (PS4) + better grass, seems like this worked out for the both of us. High five bro!