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Star Wars The Force Awakens Trailer

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LastNac

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some people are hyperbolic, but george lucas isn't a good film maker and when he went to make the prequels he completely didn't understand SW fans or what those fans liked about those movies.

I'm sure the JJ abrams movie will be far better, since he's not george lucas. That said, JJ has shown he's quite capable of making a bad mov--- ehh, I won't sidetrack. XD

I think American Graffitit and Star Wars beg to differ.

The problem is that fans interpreted things differently. Objectively the prequels are still good films, its just they weren't what fans who are now in their 40's and 50's wanted them to be.

Up until the 2012 Disney buyout I was a HUGE Star Wars fan. Im talking about all of the Celebrations(in the US) and $5,000+ of Hasbro/Kenner figures. That series was my life. That being said I have no reservation saying Star Wars fans(particularly the older ones) are some of the most entitled fans out there. The Prequels were never going to be what some fans wanted them to be, honestly, that's for the better. My fear with these new movies is that they are essentially going to be an example of slightly different Star Wars being passed off as new and shiny but largely staying the same. Several rumors up to this point have been confirmed by the trailer, which is a shame because the rumors imply we are essentially getting ANH all over again. I don't want to see that movie, I've seen it hundreds of times before already.
 

a916

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After watching the unnamed Sith sequence a few more times, I'm not at all convinced that that actually is a lightsaber. Not only is the blade extremely unstable and erratic looking, it almost whips out when he ignites it, but it also doesn't sound at all like a lightsaber. The ignition sound is totally wrong, and it's completely missing the lightsaber hum. I think this character may have created this weapon with only the most basic notions of what a lightsaber was, and did his/her best in guessing how to construct one.

That's the feeling I got and to be honest, that makes perfect sense if the Dark Side has been laying dormant and really, only Luke would know how to make a light sabre. With the Force being a myth at this point, I would imagine so does the knowledge to make a proper lightsabre. So making a rough rudimentary one was this Sith's only way... and it gives it more of an evil look too.
 
I woke up a little bit ago, jumped online to watch it...

And I'm actually really disappointed. Looks cheesy as fuck. The brief dialogue, the stupid looking lightsaber, the stormtrooper at the beginning that was so overly dramatic I thought I was watching space balls for a moment.

Fuck. Hope its actually good but I'm not feeling this teaser *at all*.

Not even the last clip or the X wings across the water? That shit was cool I thought

The lightsaber does look a bit dumb but if theories hold true then it would make sense
 

Fliesen

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I prefer that one as well, but it looks too middle age, straight out of skyrim or something

i agree, it's very "flaming sword"

a light saber is all about a igniting a straight laser blade, hearing that iconic sound.

looking at this "interpretation" makes me wonder how the "reveal" of the laser crossguard portion would look like.
it's more like a "laser edge" than a straight "laser blade" then :/
 

endre

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Without the ignited hilt:

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To me this looks way cooler.
 
The problem is that fans interpreted things differently. Objectively the prequels are still good films, its just they weren't what fans who are now in their 40's and 50's wanted them to be.

no way. i think even people who aren't so beholden to the original trilogy can notice how mediocre (at best) the prequel films are. they are just so poorly acted and written most of the time. the dialogue scenes are a chore.

plus the green-screen look got a bit ugly.

even the hobbit films (which get compared to them a lot these days) has a lot more liveliness in it's performances.
 
There's also the theory of the hilt not being a hilt at all but being exhaust vents for an improvised lightsaber that can't form properly. Since it does look more like flames than regular
 
What I love about the 'Sith' shot is that he appears to be afraid/surprised. As does the stormtrooper at the beginning. It is a really good teaser.
 

JDHarbs

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Getting such a weird vibe from the whole thing. So much old and new together, it just feels strange. Still hyped beyond all measure b/c its friggin Star Wars!
 
i know people don't like change but i'd love it if sith lightsabers from here on out are as volatile as this one.

the crackling of the lightsaber combined with his stance made him look mean as fuck. more crackle
 

Salsa

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what's crazy too is that it feels so fast between first hearing of the Disney buyout and the talk of more Star Wars and this trailer being released

feels like yesterday when we were sure there wouldnt be more
 

NekoFever

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Disagree. This is supposedly set only 30 years after Jedi, and if you want to look at the real world, the US army still uses a lot of stuff from the late 70s and 80s (Apache Helicopters, F-16s, Abrams tanks, etc). Relatively "new" stuff like F-22s or whatever are rare.

As I said earlier, the B-52 is still used by the USAF and NASA and was designed in 1952.

It's evidently not the exact same model X-Wing as in the OT anyway, which makes the complaints a bit like saying that an F-22 looks too much like an F-16 (from 1972) because the basic shape is the same.
 

Blader

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The problem is that fans interpreted things differently. Objectively the prequels are still good films, its just they weren't what fans who are now in their 40's and 50's wanted them to be.

No, the prequels are objectively bad films, regardless of anyone's expectations for them. It's not like those movies' critics are all age 40 and up.
 

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Not even the last clip or the X wings across the water? That shit was cool I thought

The lightsaber does look a bit dumb but if theories hold true then it would make sense

That stuff is cool, but star wars is about more than just the awesome effects. The story is a big part and the framing of the trailer with its small dialogue is giving me prequel trilogy flashbacks. Its just all "DRAMATIC DRAMATIC DRAMATIC".
 

Fliesen

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Fuck it, why not.

because Abrams doesn't have time for some nitpicky suggestions on how to make his film look cooler.

Let's make Episode IX entirely designed by commitee, you guys!

I dunno, isn't that exactly what they're going for if they're echoing a claymore?

yes, by the way the Sith might handle the weapon,
but "flaming laser edge across the hilt" isn't a technology we've seen before, we've seen "straight laser blades" though.

the re-interpretation is a fire-sword, it looks more like magic than like "technology" from the Star Wars universe.
 

Concept17

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Was too brief, but then again I would rather we get a brief trailer than the usual three and a half minute spoil the entire story trailer we get for all movies. (I'm sure we'll get these next year)

I like the sword. Looks cool as fuck. Who cares if it's not practical. The stormtrooper-can't-hit-shit-rifles clearly weren't very practical either. I do want to see some more variations though, like daggers, etc.
 

-Plasma Reus-

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Perhaps there is a practical reason behind the lightsaber.
It can be changed into various weapons I assume.

Regardless, everything I saw looked fantastic. Above all the music sounded incredible.
 
some people are hyperbolic, but george lucas isn't a good film maker and when he went to make the prequels he completely didn't understand SW fans or what those fans liked about those movies.

I'm sure the JJ abrams movie will be far better, since he's not george lucas. That said, JJ has shown he's quite capable of making a bad mov--- ehh, I won't sidetrack. XD
It's ironic you say this because almost every shot in the teaser is a homage to George Lucas' visual style.
 
That trailer was great. The ending with the Falcon was amazing and this trailer did it's job perfectly. Teased me without even telling me anything, left me with plenty of more questions and showed off some great looking OT like shots.
 

kingocfs

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what's crazy too is that it feels so fast between first hearing of the Disney buyout and the talk of more Star Wars and this trailer being released

feels like yesterday when we were sure there wouldnt be more

The thirst for that sweet, sweet $$$$$$ is too real.
 

yukonrye

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Since that saber has more of a long sword design I hope the saber fights are more like the original trilogy than the wire-fu crap from the prequels. I like the slow heavy swings rather than all the flipping around shit.
 
We were alredy past the looking glass when they gave Darth Maul a double saber, and Dooku a Banana Saber.

Fine by me. Those are just handles. It just doesn't make any fucking sense when they start making the "light" part of the lightsaber anything other than a straight line.
 

Jibbed

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because Abrams doesn't have time for some nitpicky suggestions on how to make his film look cooler.

Let's make Episode IX entirely designed by commitee, you guys!

Like I said earlier, I'm not fussed and I just had a go of changing it to my liking out of boredom. Me tweeting it out isn't going to make any difference.

Confident JJ is gonna pull this off.
 
you're just assuming it's a light saber with 2 mini-light-daggers attached to the sides of the hilt.

as i have posted time and time again, there's no reason not to believe that there might be a beam within the crossguard as well, and the "metal" part is just extended to protect the person wielding the sword from burning their hands when doing a lunge attack.

Actually there is reason to not believe that. If the metal portions of the guard were hiding the rest of the mini blades, they'd still have to be exposed at least a little to protect the metal portion, or it will get damaged, but they aren't. Also, we don't see any glow from any hidden portion which would force it to be completely surrounded by the metal, meaning again the metal would get damaged. The only portion of the metal that would be practical to protect the user would be the side next to the wielder's hand. The rest would be pointless as it would just be prone to damage.
 
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