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343 Industries' Josh Holmes explains design decisions in Halo 5
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Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Problem is, for anyone living outside the US, its almost double the length. Hence why SWAT is better for us. It negates the lag massively.
Although even without lag, its too long in Halo 2 and 3. CE is probably the best compromise.
Why radically change how a game plays when there are still options to expand on the base mechanics? This is why Call Of Duty is just now starting to move away from traditional stuff because they reached the end when it comes to expanding on the base game.
Jessie.Bristol
Member
ADS doesn't affect spread though. It works just like any previous Halo game.
I live in EU and I can 4-shot consistently in H4 and kinda in H3. Where you live doesn't matter. EU players get EU hosts, NA players get NA hosts (most of the time).
This is what I always felt was most important abot TTK. The difference in TTK for a skillful player vs the TTK of a average of bad player should be noticeably large. If the leverage. TTK a is reduced, the differences between these skill levels reduces. Games like COD don't reward you with a proper TTK for skilled players.
Orochinagis
Member
Oh lol, its like seeing a train before crashing and is a train you really loved.
Gears of War. And it was quite popular. Not as long as Halo's, but longer than the average.
The longer TTK is one of the reasons why I love this franchise's MP. Without it, it becomes who sees who first game, and that's terrible.
Dude I live in the middle east and I can enjoy it just fine. And believe me, our connections suck cartman's balls.
hammertomb
Banned
Anything is better than halo 4 at this point.
Regret Upon Approval
Member
So basically the sole defence that mechanics wise it is just the same as before no longer holds.
Seriously though, I'm trying to imagine how they'll explain its addition. Since yanking straight from CoD seems more and more accurate and given its already poor reception.
hadnt seen that. thanks. also, with all the refrences to the "arena", sure makes me think that the leveling system, loadouts, etc, may be returning in playlists not labeled as "arena".
"Arena is just the tip of the iceberg for multiplayer, anyway. We're only talking about arena now, but there's more to multiplayer to come for Halo 5 later."
well, thats ettles it, lol
... Have they already been taken down? Boo.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
I should have been more specific, first person shooter. Sorry.
As to your connection? Obviously Australia is far worse than most of the other developed nations then. Even on dedicated servers, I try connect to the West US servers on Titanfall sometimes and I get lag almost as if it were P2P.
Internet just sucks so bad down here. Doesn't mean there aren't great Halo players, there are. I know a few personally. I'm not a great Halo player, but I'm not terrible either. I'm just a LOT better at SWAT.
Twin Tails
Member
i can see them just fine
I really hope map alternates are not being counted as the 7 playable maps
Jessie.Bristol
Member
I believe Halo 5 will be 100% Dedicated Servers with no p2p option (or fallback) simply because of how the Spectator Mode works and was described. It would be impossible to do with p2p connections. Some of the way it works was described in the most recent Bulletin: https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/community/bulletins/the-bulletin-episode-4
Shake Appeal
Member
Fun > Immersion.
its similar but clearly different
Ok that outdoors Midship looks great.
Gnome Scat
Member
That alternate Midship looks regular sized from those angles.
Edit: Wait, is that even Midship? There's a bridge in there I don't recall.
Leyasu
Banned
But imagine playing exclusively on the azure datacenter in australia? It would be much better.
Jessie.Bristol
Member
Damn, looks great. Just knowing I cannot play it until the 29th hurts. But that really doesn't look like an Outdoor Midship. General layout looks much different, but with a similar style in regards to map design.
Twin Tails
Member
god that beeping
Leyasu
Banned
Please be true!
I just hope that get the act together and lets us choose the datacenter like titanfall. I dont care about the ranks, I just want the option to play in my region with the least amount of lag/latency possible.
Twilight Gap
Member
yea it's visually appealing and it looks like the perfect size, while the purple one is ridiculously huge.
also like the middle structure more, assuming it doesn't prevent the base-to-base combat midship was known for.
Leyasu
Banned
Jessie.Bristol
Member
I hope so too, if not then I hope the Matchmaking systems connects to a Datacenter with the lowest ping. With Titanfall, two Datacenters would fluctuate. Sometimes East US would have the lowest ping and other times Central US would have the lowest ping. Whatever way they choose to do it, I hope it always connects to a Server with the lowest ping 100% of the time.
Gnome Scat
Member
Great, another EXP. based ranking system. Also, this "Arena" distinction worries me.
The Halo community can be one of the most incredibly close minded groups on the planet. To give so much flak for something like the sprint mechanic is ludicrous.
God forbid 343 actually try and make meaningful changes and evolve the series a bit let alone add absolutely basic mechanics like sprint in the game...
God forbid 343 actually try and make meaningful changes and evolve the series a bit let alone add absolutely basic mechanics like sprint in the game...
If you watched the videos that released months ago, you could see this via the reticule getting smaller, this is not a new development.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Yep. Once again, fuck anyone outside the US effectively.
Twilight Gap
Member
how have you discerned this from those 3 screenshots...
There's two been two games with sprint in the game and those are the two most disliked games in the series. There's plenty of posts here which explain why Sprint is bad for Halo.
Leyasu
Banned
I get 47ms to the western europe datacenter in titanfall..... Bliss!! We should get the choice! But this is 343 we are talking about. I'm not getting my hopes up.
The thing is, with ranking, it will cast the net wide in order to find similar ranked players. For you it should be ok seeing as the biggest player pool is in the US.. For everyone else though.
Leyasu
Banned
Twilight Gap
Member
there are a lot of things i can't see on that one menu screen, which is my point.
the option should be there by all means, but if we're assuming it's not based on those screenshots, then there are a lot of things this game is missing...
How are you guys seeing these videos? Doesn't show up at all for me.
The former should certainly take priority, but it's nice when we can have both. :I
Jessie.Bristol
Member
I do believe they should bring back the Connection Quality options from previous Halo titles. It allowed you to choose whether you preferred faster matchmaking to the detriment of match quality, or if you preferred connection quality with slightly slower matchmaking times. I believe that should also be brought back for The Master Chief Collection, but with Titanfall's setup. That would definitely be the preferred option, that way everyone knows they are the getting the lowest ping possible in every game.
The skill based rating gets displayed first. I think this underlines the importance of the skill rating. What's wrong with this? If you care for being competetive - you get your skill rank. If you care for being here just for fun - you get your exp rank.
Twin Tails
Member
the way the gun sways around when sprinting looks real dumb not immersive at all.
Leyasu
Banned
True.. Like I said, I just really want to see a titanfall like setup where the first thing you choose is the datacenter..
Still, I'll see in a couple of weeks what the legendary 343i have got in store for us.