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Bloodborne: Impressions After 40 Hours (EDGE)
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Hey look another weapon?
DealWithIt
Member
Listen, I was disappointed too, but it's not badly designed. It's definitely one of the best AAA games from last year. Calling it bad is just wrong in my opinion. it falls short of its predecessor's greatness, but that doesn't make it bad.
Well, it isn't on the same level as DS1 for sure. Bad environmental design is bad.
Barely any shortcuts, teleporting all over the dang place, and no inter-connection paths.
When you needed to jump down a ledge to grab an object but no way to get up, you know the level designer had fail due to abusing the teleport mechanic.
This is pretty much my reaction.
Too much worrying here, folks!
Also can we just make the discussion of Dark Souls II's merits / flaws ban-worthy or something? I know Bloodborne is pretty much a Souls game, but it is a NEW game. Always someone has to remind us how they didn't like Dark Souls II or was betrayed by From when we're just trying to get our Bloodborne on....
RustyNails
Member
man i played demons souls and dark souls 2.
i couldnt find great stuff like other people did. if it was that easy to find unique stuff we woulnt need for tutorials on youtube.
most of the time i got the same garbage over and over again.
for example i had to kill this guy
to get his armor.
hey just saying
To be fair that guy was a scumbag. He will murder everyone in the nexus when you're gone.
Poimandres
Member
That's pretty easy to deny honestly. Some environments are unappealing, but it has some great looking areas as well.
I didn't like it as much as the other games, but still think it was damn good. Eh, opinions.
Night Angel
Member
That he would, the prick.
Completely OT, but what did you do to earn that tag? Now I have awful music stuck in my head.
LordPhantX
Neo Member
i played first dark souls which is imo the best among them especially for weapons and armors. not easy to get them but no need for tutorials it will be more fun finding them in your way.
i partially agree with you about dark souls 2 i didn't like it so much because of that. i recommend you to try the first one maybe it will change your mind.
DoubleTake
Member
I agree. As someone who genuinely doesnt care about DaS2 anymore it isnt a BAD game at all. However the reason people like myself were greatly displeased with it is the things is gets wrong, or completely changes about the originals. The things that made them masterpieces in the first place.
Still one of the best games I played in 2014, but not a game I will play for 600 hours + like Dark Souls 1.
Bloodborne is bringing back all the things we loved from DaS1 and incorporating others from Demon's. The anticipation is palpable.
Some parts are butt: ie Shaded Woods, Tseldora and Harvest Valley.
Some are good: Dragon Aerie, Iron Keep, Tower of Flame, Drangleic
DS1 has its fair share of clunkers, so it's not a downgrade other than Gutter from Blighttown maybe.
neoism
Member
I don't either but DS2 was just more user friendly, and more streamlined,( which seemed like a bad thing for most of gaf for some reason) for me thats one of the reasons its my favorite. I also loved the world better and also PVP was MUUUUCH better (because it worked most of the time) I got over 230 hours in the game and have been thinking about playing through it again before BB.
I don't think its badly designed at all. Miyazaki him self did work on it some, how did it miss the point? If you got a nooby to play either one both would die and insane amount of times, it's a matter if the game clicks with the player or not and DemS didn't for me because dying over and over and over and over again and feeling like I didn't get anywhere for hours because...of cheap deaths which lets be real, Demon Souls and even DS had waay more trail and error deaths than DS2 did.
Like I asked before I would love to know if most of """the B team"""" as everyone on gaf loves to put it really helped with this game I bet most of them did... A select few mostly worked on the DLC for DS2 and the port for PS4/xbone.. after this is out I'm guessing they will start on Ds3.
Jimmyfenix
Member
Miyazaki had nothing to do with 2. Also there is a video showing a chunk of people missing from ds2 credits that worked on ds1 & demon souls. That is where the team b comments come from.
neoism
Member
Like I stated a bunch of times before gaf will never forgive for the lighting thing never... which didn't bother at all. I bought it for PC and its one of the best playable PC games Ive played.. with all the time I played it only had 1 crash. That and that the god of all gods Miyazaki didn't make it... the guy only made one good game DS1.. Armored Core lol...
Dark Souls II (2014) - Supervisor
I know where it stims from its just annoying thats all...
no one really knows what that means but yes he did... to some capacity.
Jimmyfenix
Member
Miyazaki has made 2 souls games tho
DoubleTake
Member
Come on weve been over this so many times. How can the dude be providing help and working on DaS2 when he has his own game to be developing?
People who enjoy Dark Souls 2 more than 1 have this really weird feel about them. As if theyre upset that majority of players prefer the older games to their favorite Ds2. And always try to find reasons as to why DaS2s changes to the formula were better/okay.
Dark_castle
Junior Member
we've already seen more than 6 ...
1. Sawcleaver
2. Warped Twinblades
3. Hunter's Axe
4. Pimp/whip-cane
5. Kirkhammer
6. Greatsword
7. Scythe
8. Gunblade
That's great. Sawcleaver is awesome.
....huh??
You monster.
6 weapons?
People just repeating shit over and over again without reading some earlier posts and jump on stupid conclusions. THAT'S SAD! THAT'S REALLY SAD!
Shameless reposting :
Read this :
SolarMystic
Member
I want to play this so bad, unfortunately I dont do horror games...
You'll be surprised on how fast the enemy could get close to you
I think when Edge said enemy, it means generic one that you can encounter pretty much everyday. NPCs will still drop appropiate equipment when they are killed, assuming you can do it of course
This is exactly my sentiment with DS2. Design-wise, it's clearly different on approach that what we had with Miyazaki directed games before, and personally that what makes me dislike it. Subtle and integrated game designing pretty much what makes me invested in both DeS and DaS. DaS 2 felt so different from the get go as the design is more gamey so to speak. But this design approach isn't inherently bad. It might appealing for those who seek the Souls games as a game that test their skill and built. I can completely understand that. There is really no need to belittle someone who prefer DaS2 more just because it's deviate from Miyazaki's formula.
Dark_castle
Junior Member
Quelaag's Furysword is goat.
" You're Not Kingly"
I know sorry. I bought Demons Souls, Dark Souls and Dark Souls 2 and have never played any of them. The theme, art and playstyle intrigue me, just i have never had time. This will be different though, looks amazing.
Sorry, this isn't a Souls game. It's its own thing.
Yoooo that's the truth. I usually use curved swords and it looked so cool
dragonfart28
Banned
Yea, part of it for me is the theme.
I like shiny armor and the style of this game doesn't seem to have any medieval basis.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
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I'm hopeful that bosses still drop souls (Or the equivalent) that you can craft weapons with but the guy at Edge didn't know where or how to craft them.
Neither do I, but I sure as hell would attempt to make an exception for this if it's more notably scary. Plus there's a difference between horror meant to terrify, and horror meant to be a flavor or aesthetic, of which the prior Souls games definitely fell under.
If I have to take a guess, the lesser replayability-ness of the game stems from the fact that Bloodborne is much more of a horror game now. The main draw of horror element is the fear of the unknown, surprised, and the unexpected. From the very same reason, this is what makes Demon's Souls, which coincidentally the most "horror" of Soul games, have much of it greatness can only be experienced first hand in the first playthrough without a guide. The majority of the bosses is puzzle. You shit your pant when seeing the gigantic Tower Knight, wondering how you defeat him. You're surprised by Adjudicator tongue slap from the dark, unseen bottom of the arena and then begin to wonder why your attack don't have any effect. The moment you feel triumph just because you downed Maneater to half of its health, the second one comes in and pretty much scare and make you panic. All of this experience couldn't be repeated in second playthrough (which is why I'm always jealous seeing people playing DeS for the first time). If the Bloodborne truly dedicate itself to horror, of course this kind of experience will be the main attraction and draw of the game, which in turn reduce the game "replayability" so to speak.
I think Miyazaki and the team realize this too, and this is why Chalice Dungeon created in the first place.
I think Miyazaki and the team realize this too, and this is why Chalice Dungeon created in the first place.
super-famicom
Member
Hmm, I wonder if there is a boss or two in the Chalice Dungeon, and if they are also randomized.
ChasingComets
Member
The quintessential modern gamer here folks, with his ever growing backlog.
Ghost Slayer
Member
nice choice, bro. And you'd better play that fantastic multiplayer
Yeah I'm happy with this. Guns all the fucking way.
And repeat, this is very very great
"Gone is the dark fantasy, the faded crumbled majesty of the Souls series. Bloodborne is filthy, grisly, and very, very scary. It's a horror game."
"Bloodborne is Hidetaka Miyazaki's brutal riposte to the section of his playerbase that thinks it has seen it all before"
Can't wait dude.
I guess there will be Chalice Dungeon exclusive boss. If there is any other boss to appearead, presumably it'll be a reuse from the regular boss. This is speculation come from some footage/screenshot where the place you fight Darkbeast Paarl is different from the footage we've just seen some week ago.
HORRORSHØW
Member
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CMojicaAce
Member
Grimløck;155613979 said:
Shu Yoshida boss confirmed.
Newtype-001
Member
In anycase the guy would most lilely get completely stomped in areas with more than 3 enemies coming at him if he carried on only using the gun side of the gunblade. That load time till the next shot feels long aswell.
Makes me think they may not have checked every nook and crany
Ghost Slayer
Member
Grimløck;155613979 said:
Hunter yosp
Nightengale
Member
If Shu Yoshida isn't an unlockable Character Origin in Bloodborne, this game is dead2me.