While it targets 60fps, in some instances (it's dynamic remember) it seems it may not be able to, no. That 10 times power increase is going into framerate and apparently not much else.
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DF: Can Halo 5 deliver on its 60fps promise?
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While it targets 60fps, in some instances (it's dynamic remember) it seems it may not be able to, no. That 10 times power increase is going into framerate and apparently not much else.
For the Arena mode I am expecting a solid 60 FPS. For the campaign and warzone mode I can settle with 50-60 FPS (hopefully upper 50). As for resolution, I honestly don't care that much. Hopefully it is above 900p though, not a deal breaker since I am one of those blind people that can't notice the difference between 720p and 1080p unless you put them side by side.
ethomaz
Banned
It is me or you are mixing three different devs in this post.
Just to be clear:
Halo 5: i343
Forza 6: Turn 10
Horizon 2: Playground Games
Welfare
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I was thinking somewhere close to 50fps.
Apparent from what? A work-in-progress?
Team Klimt
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Season 1 of the Sprint heavily features Pro Team. S1 is an hour and a half about arena and the Beta.
Dice
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If you have overall good performance in a game but it dips over enough circumstances that come up, for the sake of a consistent experience you can lock it down to a framerate that is below what it is actually capable of a lot of the time. When you do this, the game is usually much more responsive than a game that struggles to hold 30fps most of the time.
Horizon 2 has the feel of a game that was locked down from something higher, but I can see how in some areas and weather effects and higher number of cars, it could easily have dipped below whatever it is capable of when driving in an open field. Still, the performance seems unwavering despite a wide range of activity, which makes it feel "artificially" locked down to 30 for a uniform experience.
In the mainline series, there is a lot smaller range of variables for what is displayed between different moments. They control how many polygons are seen for every single turn, they control the number of cars, and they can check how both plus added effects change things across every inch of track. You can't really exhaustively do that in an open world game, so the potential for optimization is far higher with Forza 6.
Yes, I understand, but we have to draw our ideas of what is possible on Xbone with Microsoft-supported ground-up development from somewhere. My comments on Forza are added perspective that I don't think major sacrifice is just some hard law we'll always have to expect and live with on the console. Developers can achieve nice things, and there are some present and anticipated examples, so not all hope is lost for Halo 5.
Capitalizing on your resources.
The game would most likely look all pretty and nice while maintaining a solid 30FPS (which the series has done just fine until now) then have your 60fps for multilayer which is great for competitive play. It's a win win in my book.
That's a mere 4 months away, yes. I'd hope it improves by then...bit i also hope they incorporate split screen too...i'm not holding my breath about either.... For a game that looks as "eh" as halo 5 currently does, it should not be struggling with it's framerate or need an adaptive resolution. And of that were the case there would be no problem. So hopefully for their sake they have a straight line 60fps at a solid 900p res when DF get their hands on retail code.
Grimgrillz
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Poor MisterXclown, Dat Secret Sauce still not have arrived on devs hands...
Every post I've ever seen from that forum brings tears of laughter and joy to my eyes. They really believe that there is secrete tech within the XBO. Not only that but there are hidden cores, graphics cards and so on and so forth. But when asked why they don't put it to use the common reply is that there are NDA's on the console or it's waiting for DX12.
SaganIsGOAT
Junior Member
Hmmm solid 60fps AT LEAST 98% of the time.
Preferably attain that with drops of no more than 1-2 frames.
LegalEagleMike
Member
pfft, all that matters is the screenshot thread.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
The more MisterX shit I see the more I think he's an actual crazy person who needs help.
I think is just parody. it's probably someone having fun, i mean how could anyone be this diluted, right... Right?
:/
Who is they? Btw, I wouldn't be surprised if the whole misterx parody would be run by someone who is keeping this up just to make discussions worse and to get posted on neogaf.
I get what you're saying, but you don't know how they work at 343i. Yes, one could think that 4 months is too little time to do anything, but that's pure speculation. Unless you've worked there and have direct knowledge on how they work, you can't defininitevly state that 4 months is too little. I'm not arguing the opposite, either. I am not saying 4 months is enough, but I am the same as you, I have no idea on how they like to work.
ebullientprism
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Poor MisterXclown, Dat Secret Sauce still not have arrived on devs hands...
This is amazing.
Journey
Banned
MisterX (and his "unbiased" friends) do love to slag off GAF tho...
https://twitter.com/**************/status/618078786681221120
Apparently Evilore and all the mods are paid sony shills and everyone on GAF is a paid pony. Pfft >_> <_<
(are we?
Edit: Huh, had no idea GAF could ban twitter users.
This was their evidence lol
They should have made the game 1280x1080 resolution @ 30fps.That resolution would scale nicely with today's 1080p hdtvs (similar to GT5) and they should have kept local split screen.
family_guy
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I think given MS's new direction and new CEO with a focus on getting people to get Windows 10, there will be a PC version.
BossDarkseid
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This was their evidence lol
Heh yeah i've seen that pic before...although it wasn't until recently that i realised Bish was a developer rather than one of us slovenly devotees. They also say because a Sony ad appeared on MobileGAF that they're obviously being paid. The irony of ironies being Misterxmedia exclusively Xbox and calling all Sony fans ponies...
The more I see his posts, the more I think he's actually just trolling people dumb enough to believe he's for real.
Journey
Banned
MisterX should be taken as parody at this ponit, I think even he's running with that idea, like the Kaz twitter account, except Kaz is hysterical.
Distresssss
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Hardly any console games these days has a stable 30 or 60fps without dips. Certainly no AAA titles. Its always possible to find areas with dips. Its going to always happen.
That said if people really think the game is going to run worse than the H5 beta I would never entertain a single idea they have because they would be pretty foolish.
That said if people really think the game is going to run worse than the H5 beta I would never entertain a single idea they have because they would be pretty foolish.
Primethius
Banned
So 60FPS 98% of the time. Anything more then 3 FPS is a dip.
Yea, I'll take that bet. Only Ground Zeroes has been able to pull off performance like that on consoles. Doubt H5 will.
BossDarkseid
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LegalEagleMike
Member
This thread took an interesting turn. MisterX discussions and an account ban bet. Good times.
This.
justgames7604
Member
Interesting, the answer could be yes or no.
I will say maybe.
I will say maybe.
Broadbandito
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ding ding ding
SaganIsGOAT
Junior Member
Preferably part is just what I want to see. It could be 98% stable and drop a quick 5 frames. Who knows.
Primethius
Banned
I think I understand. 98% of the time it'll hold 60FPS across all modes, but maybe with a variation of 1-2 FPS but we won't consider those dips. A drop of more FPS is considered a dip and will factor against the games stable 60.
AllIsOneIsNone
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I know it's not, but you missed my point. 60fps is more playable than 30fps. The question is how much to how many people. Where you do draw the line? Most PC gamers I know prefer a higher framerate, most Nintendo gamers I know prefer the same. They also age better, imo. I'm not gonna be the guy to say 30fps looks choppy, but it sure as shit ain't very smooth.
You say it was a mistake for them to go 60 in single player, I say the consistency between mp and campaign is better, as well as fluidity that 60fps brings. It's easier on the eyes, which more than makes up for other graphical shortcomings. Just look at Halo MCC, the jump to 60 made those games all look and play worlds better.
In that secret sauce people are highly soluble.
Ricky Ricardo
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Because post-processing, open levels, skyboxes ... all that stuff is being run by the CPU right?
SEGAvangelist
Member
The hype is real.
Futurematic
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Very different kind of crazy, but Marathon lore puzzling was insane back in the day. Hamish still has the site up, and it is still fun, but you'd have to look up old usenet postings and probably long forgotten forums and time travel to really get the full picture. Oh man, those first Halo postings before we knew how weak the story was vs. Marathon.
Bungie fans have always been a little crazy,
.Samurai G0SU
Member
ALL ABOARD THE HYPE TRAIN!!! CHOOOOOO CHOOOO !!!!
The guardian is over 4000 feet tall? That must take some serious GPU power to render that bad boy! Woohoo!Poor MisterXclown, Dat Secret Sauce still not have arrived on devs hands...
/s just... Wow... I can't even
arhra
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And Forza 5. And Wolfenstein: The New Order. And maybe some others I've forgotten, but those were the first two that jumped to mind.
Wolfensteine is using dynamic rest on both PS4 and Xbox One.
arhra
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So is Halo 5, if the whiteboards that can be glimpsed in the background of The Sprint are to be trusted.
AllIsOneIsNone
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I bet you that I want you to keep your account.
Jessie.Bristol
Member
Metro Redux as well on Xbox One (912p) and PlayStation 4 (1080p). According to Digital Foundry, it holds 60fps on both consoles more then 99% of the time.
I don't think so.
I think he's really sick. It doesn't take a leap to imagine this so-called insider is himself. Or the support he gets from similarly named personas.
I think he legitimately believes these are real people.
There are certainly far more damaging obsessions, of course.
SaganIsGOAT
Junior Member
The reason I have so much faith is because 60fps has brought sacrifices to things like split screen (rip). They wouldn't do that unless they were super duper serious about nailing 60fps. If the game launches and it can't do 60 fps well, then their sacrifices have been in vain.