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PR: Nintendo Publishing Devil's Third in the Americas, Valhalla Game Studios on PC
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You can use keyboards in the Wii U version as well, actually.
Pancakes R Us
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PC has voice chat (3rd party programs, everyone uses them) and you still run into the problem of controllers not being able to compete with m/kb at all.
Cross play is a bad idea for all shooters that aren't co-op
ALLseeingEYE
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What makes you say that? If anything, the game likely started on PC, as it's Unreal Engine 3 (hence, the talk about Valhalla having trouble porting Unreal 3 to WiiU). It certainly will likely still look dated, but I'm sure it will run fine.
Well the game isn't just a shooter so the kb+m advantage won't be as big. Regardless they should let it happen for the sake of player population.
Maybe it's more "tailored for the free to play model".
I mean, isn't that the primary draw (even though it seems to be rather poor)? I'm surprised they're bothering with multiplayer at all.
Lol @ Valhalla. UE3 supports the Wii U and there have been other games on the system that have used it since launch like Batman Arkham City.
Shooting is a major part though, if the single-player footage is any indication trying to approach an enemy that is shooting at you from a distance with melee will get you killed bar-none.
Yeah, there have been - and every single one of them runs like absolutely dog shit. Arkham City runs much MUCH slower than Devil's Third. UE3 has had a very poor run on Wii U.
Nah, Valhalla always said multiplayer was the core of the game.
Lol, much slower? Not really, the Arkham games run similarly on PS3 and 360 as well (also have to keep in mind that it was built specifically for these platforms first, not ported after) and there are negligible differences in certain aspects of the games as pointed out by Eurogamer face-offs. Also Injustice Gods Among Us (another UE3 game) on Wii U runs perfectly fine with no issues.
man, that is the smallest Devils Third thread in GAF history
Theognosis
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The only reason why I wanted this game was for the novelty factor. Now that it's no longer a Wii U exclusive, I'm no longer interested. It's just going to end up as an inferior edition just like the rest of the multiplats on the Wii U developed using off-the-shelf PC-based game engines.
Good luck, Valhalla.
Good luck, Valhalla.
Arkham City is a mess on Wii U. It skips and stutters throughout while operating at a much more variable frame-rate. The frame-rate is unlocked which means less demanding areas often average around 35fps rather than a stable 30 resulting in constant judder while combat sequences that ran at a stable 30 on 360 and PS3 often dip to the low-20s. This creates such an unstable experience in comparison. It feels unfinished and unpolished.
Arkham Origins was an improvement but ultimately still slower than the other versions spending most of its time under 30fps.
Mass Effect 3 on Wii U runs slower than the Xbox 360 version but faster than the PS3 version.
Injustice isn't exactly a good example as even the Vita version runs at 60fps. NetherRealm's games are the only UE3 games on last gen consoles to run at 60fps. They made huge sacrifices to hit that target frame-rate. It doesn't represent UE3 performance on Wii U or the other platforms.
The point is, based on games released, UE3 runs slower on Wii U on average than other last-generation consoles. I'm not sure Epic even officially supported the platform. The engine is not well suited to the strengths of the platform. I do believe that using UE3 for a game like this was a huge mistake but, then again, Devil's Third has been through hell.
SatoAilDarko
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It still kind of is. The singleplayer is still exclusive and the multiplayer will be different in some way.
There's always one.
You're giving Valhalla too much slack for their shit performance considering this game was exclusive and not a ported after-thought like every game you just listed. All things considered (ported games and little funding for said port) the games still run comparably even after the fact they were ported and have to deal with the extra bandwidth that the GamePad requires. Devil's Third doesn't even display anything on the damn thing. There is no excuse for Valhalla, the engine performs similarly on PS3, 360 and Wii U.
...but Devil's Third actually does run a lot better than all of those other games I mentioned. It does not run well, but it's improved over those titles.
Unfortunately, it also runs with an unlocked frame-rate meaning you get a lot of 35-40fps.
It really does not look like it runs much better than those games, and those who have played it said it does not run well at all.
https://youtu.be/HzB6Gg7Dpgk?t=4m50s
Theanine3D
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I hope Valhalla is considering Steam Workshop support for the PC version, it'd help extend the life of the game by a lot (and judging by what some impressions have said, it needs that). Custom maps and playermodels and whatnot would interest a lot of people who would have otherwise ignored the game.
Official support for mods is probably asking too much at this point though...
Official support for mods is probably asking too much at this point though...
The Sarcastic Dude
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F2P? Eh, I'll give it the good 'ol college try.
I'm really curious to see how Bloodstained will run on Wii U with Armature's UE4 port.
NeptunePirate
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I'll give the PC version a shot, nothing to lose there.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Since when? Everything since inception including the survey I took on it while THQ was still involved with it pointed towards multiplayer focus.
KainXVIII
Member
We don't know yet which part of this game will be worse.
I don't think you're quite getting just how poor those other UE3 Wii U games run. Devil's Third does not run well, but it's still an improvement.
Wow, then my fault for expecting something else. It's looking disappointing but learning that pretty much kills my interest. :\
Relaxed Muscle
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I guess, but even last year's E3 made the multiplayer look somewhat fun. Single player has never looked that great.
lol
You're not quite getting just how poor Devil's Third runs (an exclusive game that wasn't hastily ported):
https://youtu.be/nRtEnIZK97U?t=2m36s
and how bad it looks:
https://youtu.be/nRtEnIZK97U?t=5m13s
That is not an improvement bro.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
UE3 only got to where it got on PS360 after hundreds of releases and a decade of intensive support and refinement, and while the Wii U may be stupidly deficient in some areas, I don't think the performance of Devil's Third or any other UE3 game on Wii U indicates an inherent unsuitability to the hardware, just a complete lack of support and no opportunity to improve.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EopiqKacEP0
There is also nothing in Batman that looks half as bad as that car in Devil's Third.
Its free..
Separate, the PC multiplayer release was likely only done to re-coup funding costs because they know this game is going to sell horribly.
bequietdrive
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Have they announced whether the multiplayer will be cross platform? If it is and its not awful, this could be the Wii U version's saving grace.
Nintendo has nothing to do with the PC version. They put out a disclaimer on the site saying so. They simply agreed to let Valhalla do this on their own.
I see. Well I guess the port will be simple enough as the game is using Unreal Engine 3.
I don't believe it, if Nintendo gets no cash from the PC release then allowing them to do it would result in a negative outcome for them beyond the amount they already spent on funding (ie less people would buy the Wii U version).
Not too surprising. They seem to be ok with this when they have no interest in the IP anymore while the developer does. Mistwalker had some The Last Story chapter in its iOS/Android game.
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