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September 2015 NPD (U.S. Hardware) Predictions - Closes October 13th

RexNovis

Banned
damn it, Rex. Thank you. I meant multiplayer of course.
Should not watch TV at the same time.

Haha I figured. Even still, I think the impact the online requirement will have on the sales of the game will be minimal. The success of Destiny shows as much. As long as the game is compelling and cultivates an audience for itself the requirement won't matter. In my opinion, the film will be a major determining factor for the size of the game's audience. It has the potential to tip the scales in either direction.
 
But it's not multiplayer only either...

It can be played alone or co-op with missions or online.

It just doesn't have a campaign is what you tried to say, right? lol

i give up.
so it has no campaign. but you can play offline.
so no online only or something.
honestly, i did not know.
that changes a lot.
thanks, gaf.
also thanks for not yelling right away at me...
 

Fat4all

Banned
i give up.
so it has no campaign. but you can play offline.
so no online only or something.
honestly, i did not know.
that changes a lot.
thanks, gaf.
also thanks for not yelling right away at me...

HOW DOES IT FEEL?!?

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RexNovis

Banned
i give up.
so it has no campaign. but you can play offline.
so no online only or something.
honestly, i did not know.
that changes a lot.
thanks, gaf.
also thanks for not yelling right away at me...

If it makes you feel any better that's news to me too
 
Haha I figured. Even still, I think the impact the online requirement will have on the sales of the game will be minimal. The success of Destiny shows as much. As long as the game is compelling and cultivates an audience for itself the requirement won't matter. In my opinion, the film will be a major determining factor for the size of the game's audience. It has the potential to tip the scales in either direction.

First J.J. tore Star Wars into the dirt, second J.J. will resurrect it. Abrams is the perfect man for the job. It's amazing what he did for Star Treck, now he will make Star Wars sexy again. I do not give too much for trailers normally, but they nailed the look and feel of the old, the good movies and combine this with modern action cinema.

If Battlefront fails, it will be a colossal fault of it's own.
 

ZhugeEX

Banned
Battlefront will do fine, but not as good as expected. I'd go for less than 15, but over 10, maybe 12 mio. I think being multi player only will be a no-go for many, even if star wars is the biggest brand on earth. a lot of people will buy it without even knowing that it has no campaign though. Some will buy the nice vader console and don't even play the game attached.
As a pure FPS COD, Halo might be the better products.
For 15 mio it would need legs I guess. So, star wars brand and movie should help to prolonger the magic, being multi player only won't.

Can you even play the game without being registered on origin?

My 15m thing was more based on this game getting great reviews and word of mouth. Should the game get a negative reception then that'll certainty affect sales. Not drastically as it should still get around the 10m mark but that won't be good news for EA.

Also this game should be bigger than Halo 5 on a global scale.Not COD though.
 
If it makes you feel any better that's news to me too

I think the news of not having a campaign stirred up all the game mode it officially supports, so it's ok if people don't know but just for you neogaf members...

Battlefront will have:

-Offline Solo Survival missions
-Offline Co-op Survival missions
-Online Co-op Survival missions
-Online Competitive Multiplayer

I'll edit the links to the news later.

Edit: Got lucky, even the news for the beta announcement includes all the modes I mentioned so I don't have to look up links so there you have it.
 

RexNovis

Banned
I think the news of not having a campaign stirred up all the game mode it officially supports, so it's ok if people don't know but just for you neogaf members...

Battlefront will have:

-Offline Solo Survival missions
-Offline Co-op Survival missions
-Online Co-op Survival missions
-Online Competitive Multiplayer

I'll edit the links to the news later.

Edit: Got lucky, even the news for the beta announcement includes all the modes I mentioned so I don't have to look up links so there you have it.

Ah well cheers for that. I didn't know they had offline modes available. Good to know.
 

twinturbo2

butthurt Heat fan
[3DS] 180K
[WIU] 85K
[PS4] 225K
[XB1] 225K

Yes, I'm predicting a tie. What'cha gonna do about it?

2K Sports announced that they already sold 4 million copies of NBA2K16, so that's the software champ this month, followed by Destiny TTK, Madden 16, Forza Motorsport 6 and MGSV TPP, in that order.
 
[3DS] 180K
[WIU] 85K
[PS4] 225K
[XB1] 225K

Yes, I'm predicting a tie. What'cha gonna do about it?

2K Sports announced that they already sold 4 million copies of NBA2K16, so that's the software champ this month, followed by Destiny TTK, Madden 16, Forza Motorsport 6 and MGSV TPP, in that order.

You must have bought a lot of copies of Forza?
 

bombshell

Member
2K Sports announced that they already sold 4 million copies of NBA2K16, so that's the software champ this month, followed by Destiny TTK, Madden 16, Forza Motorsport 6 and MGSV TPP, in that order.

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Forza above MGS can't be a serious prediction.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

RexNovis

Banned
[3DS] 180K
[WIU] 85K
[PS4] 225K
[XB1] 225K

Yes, I'm predicting a tie. What'cha gonna do about it?

2K Sports announced that they already sold 4 million copies of NBA2K16, so that's the software champ this month, followed by Destiny TTK, Madden 16, Forza Motorsport 6 and MGSV TPP, in that order.

So let me get this straight you think the 3DS will be up 150% sales per week MoM, the WiiU will also be up 155% sales per week MoM all while the PS4 will be down 15% per week MoM and the XB1 down 12% per week MoM? Do you have some reason for this miraculous 150% bump for Nintendo products that somehow leads to lower sales of their more successful competition or is this just deluded fan fiction? Because I sure am curious to hear it either way. Please enlighten us!
 
At this point in the Wii U's lifecycle, software is not going to have a big effect on pushing hardware.

That Mario Maker bundle could help, but I think that's a Walmart exclusive.
WiiU sales are so low, even a small increase in numbers results in healthy-looking percentage.
 

Alo0oy

Banned
[3DS] 180K
[WIU] 85K
[PS4] 225K
[XB1] 225K

Yes, I'm predicting a tie. What'cha gonna do about it?

2K Sports announced that they already sold 4 million copies of NBA2K16, so that's the software champ this month, followed by Destiny TTK, Madden 16, Forza Motorsport 6 and MGSV TPP, in that order.

No offense, but that software prediction is atrocious.
 

Welfare

Member
WiiU sales are so low, even a small increase in numbers results in healthy-looking percentage.

Yeah, like just a 20k increase this month would be more than a 45% increase month over month, but in the Wii U's case, you have to look at just how much of an increase the raw number was, and not the percentage.
 

Ryng_tolu

Banned
Yeah, like just a 20k increase this month would be more than a 45% increase month over month, but in the Wii U's case, you have to look at just how much of an increase the raw number was, and not the percentage.

I think The only month with good numbers was June 2014... And maybe December 2014.

What'cha gonna do about 2K Sports announced that they already sold 4 million copies of NBA2K16, so that's the software champ this month, followed by Destiny TTK, Madden 16, Forza Motorsport 6 and MGSV TPP, in that order.

You forgot Teraway, it will be First in September NPD!
 

twinturbo2

butthurt Heat fan
So let me get this straight you think the 3DS will be up 150% sales per week MoM, the WiiU will also be up 155% sales per week MoM all while the PS4 will be down 15% per week MoM and the XB1 down 12% per week MoM? Do you have some reason for this miraculous 150% bump for Nintendo products that somehow leads to lower sales of their more successful competition or is this just deluded fan fiction? Because I sure am curious to hear it either way. Please enlighten us!
I have no reason other than my gut feelings on this.
 

Javin98

Banned
[3DS] 180K
[WIU] 85K
[PS4] 225K
[XB1] 225K

Yes, I'm predicting a tie. What'cha gonna do about it?

2K Sports announced that they already sold 4 million copies of NBA2K16, so that's the software champ this month, followed by Destiny TTK, Madden 16, Forza Motorsport 6 and MGSV TPP, in that order.
Tell you that you will have no chance making it to even the top 50 with those predictions. :p Also, software predictions are likely way off.
 

BokehKing

Banned
I think sales for all 3 games will be comparable honestly. COD and Halo are clearly very well known gaming IPs and Star Wars is probably the biggest IP on the planet.

I agree with Zhuge. I think Battlefront can sell 15 million LTD and that's amazing. Can't be mad at that.


I can see a lot of people digitally purchasing those games (myself included). What would NPD need in order to count digital sales?
 
I can see a lot of people digitally purchasing those games (myself included). What would NPD need in order to count digital sales?

They would need to get them from Sony , MS etc etc but it seem they don't want to give them out .
NPD data is becoming more and more useless with DD numbers.
Well at least the hardware numbers still good.
 

Alo0oy

Banned
Bloodborne definitely has high digital sales, it sold ~400k on NPD, and about the same in Europe, before bundling it was ~250k in Japan, so it should be 350k-400k with the bundles there.

If we assume that it sold 200k-300k in Asia/South America, then that means that it sold more than 500k digitally based on the 2m WW sales figure, which is a huge ratio.
 

Boke1879

Member
Bloodborne definitely has high digital sales, it sold ~400k on NPD, and about the same in Europe, before bundling it was ~250k in Japan, so it should be 350k-400k with the bundles there.

If we assume that it sold 200k-300k in Asia/South America, then that means that it sold more than 500k digitally based on the 2m WW sales figure, which is a huge ratio.

BB is at 2 million now?
 

ViciousDS

Banned
I'm sure it will go up considerably, but honestly I thought that XB1 was going to definitely win PS4 in October/November because of Halo 5 ... now I'm not so sure. I really think that XB1 should be trending higher.

Halo 5 has been Luke warm in the field from the people I've heard at Best Buy and Gamestop. It's going to be big....but 343 being on that box has definitely killed hype for some of the fan base. I'll have to jump around here and see how many pre orders we got at GameStop.....no idea on Best Buy, I don't have connections there despite how much I shop there :/
 
Halo 5 has been Luke warm in the field from the people I've heard at Best Buy and Gamestop. It's going to be big....but 343 being on that box has definitely killed hype for some of the fan base. I'll have to jump around here and see how many pre orders we got at GameStop.....no idea on Best Buy, I don't have connections there despite how much I shop there :/
Halo 5 will sell very well. the big question is how many consoles it will sell.
Some say that the Halo crowd mostly has bought their console already.
 

Boke1879

Member
Damn where was I? Lol good shit though. So happy for Bloodborne. hopefully LTD end up around 3-3.5 million. Can't wait for that DLC
 

Alo0oy

Banned
Halo 5 has been Luke warm in the field from the people I've heard at Best Buy and Gamestop. It's going to be big....but 343 being on that box has definitely killed hype for some of the fan base. I'll have to jump around here and see how many pre orders we got at GameStop.....no idea on Best Buy, I don't have connections there despite how much I shop there :/

The only people that know who 343i/Bungie are are Internet nerds, the average person doesn't know nor care about this stuff.

A better argument would be the decline in Sales in Halo 4 & the hardcore drop in MP population after launch, I'd wager that Call of Duty was the culprit, and not some Internet studios war.
 

ViciousDS

Banned
Yea I'm curious as to how many consoles it can sell. I just don't see it doing what Halo 3 did for the 360 in that month of September though.

If MCC didn't come out and halo 5 was the first halo game on the console it would have been insane numbers. But I see maybe 100k above come this month.......

As for this month, Sony is taking and destiny will be number 1 on NPD.

I'm interested in forza sales
 

Boke1879

Member
The only people that know who 343i/Bungie are are Internet nerds, the average person doesn't know nor care about this stuff.

A better argument would be the decline in Sales in Halo 4 & the hardcore drop in MP population after launch, I'd wager that Call of Duty was the culprit, and not some Internet studios war.

Pretty much. The Halo name still carries weight. But I'm sure the problems the MCC had did a lot of damage. I personally still think Halo 3 was the best MP wise. So damn good.

That being said I agree. With the rise of COD and battlefield in popularity that definitely took over some of the playerbase
 

Alo0oy

Banned
Pretty much. The Halo name still carries weight. But I'm sure the problems the MCC had did a lot of damage. I personally still think Halo 3 was the best MP wise. So damn good.

That being said I agree. With the rise of COD and battlefield in popularity that definitely took over some of the playerbase

I don't think the MCC would hurt it that much, just take a look at bf4stats or bfhstats and see how fast the average consumer forgets an atrocious launch.
 

Boke1879

Member
I don't think the MCC would hurt it that much, just take a look at bf4stats or bfhstats and see how fast the average consumer forgets an atrocious launch.

Yea I can see that. Plus the insane and good marketing MS will have for the game will get people to buy in.
 
That being said I agree. With the rise of COD and battlefield in popularity that definitely took over some of the playerbase

Halo was unmatched as console FPS once. this has changed. It's still good, but not the champion any more.
Also, Halo is much tamer than the others. And for a good part of the FPS-crowd, gore is a selling point.
 

Alo0oy

Banned
Halo was unmatched as console FPS once. this has changed. It's still good, but not the champion any more.
Also, Halo is much tamer than the others. And for a good part of the FPS-crowd, gore is a selling point.

Absolutely not, there's nothing gory about Call of Duty, Battlefield, or Counter-Strike, the three biggest FPS games out there.
 
[3DS] 180K
[WIU] 85K
[PS4] 225K
[XB1] 225K

Yes, I'm predicting a tie. What'cha gonna do about it?

2K Sports announced that they already sold 4 million copies of NBA2K16, so that's the software champ this month, followed by Destiny TTK, Madden 16, Forza Motorsport 6 and MGSV TPP, in that order.

Why are you predicting a tie do you really think that or just looking for attention? No way is there going to be a tie or that close this month.

I have no reason other than my gut feelings on this.



LOL might want to get that checked bro.
 
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