This really highlights how howard stringer was a really shitty CEO.
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Sony FY2015 Q2: PS4 shipment 4 million, cumulative sell in at 29.3 million
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This really highlights how howard stringer was a really shitty CEO.
Agree.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
PS4 must be doing insane numbers in Europe.
I figured by this coming spring that PS4 shipments were going to fall behind PS2 shipments. But now it's looking like that is still a year and a half to two years away.
Damn impressive showing overall Sony. Pretty drastic turnaround from the PS3's early life.
I figured by this coming spring that PS4 shipments were going to fall behind PS2 shipments. But now it's looking like that is still a year and a half to two years away.
Damn impressive showing overall Sony. Pretty drastic turnaround from the PS3's early life.
To be fair, that's sort of how Microsoft operates. Because of their massive strengths in other areas, Xbox's profits and losses are almost irrelevant to how it is viewed in the greater company. However, the flip side of that is that if the people in charge don't feel like keeping Xbox around any more, they'll axe it without a second thought. Right now, Satella seems willing to give Xbox a chance, but we don't know what performance metrics he has has placed for it.
While the PS4 is performing very well, I think that the PS3's lack of performance is overstated. If you look at the pure numbers, it sold decently. It's just that people were comparing it to the sales of the Wii and the 360.
sörine;183393137 said:
It was actually very different in Asia , all those super cheap NES,Genesis clones were HUGE over here. In fact they still sell. But then after the PS1 , PCs took over. Since PS1 and its games weren't really affordable to most of the people , I dont think it even had cheap clones too. I dont know how Consoles can get in with their price. F2P and microtransactions seem to be the only way. $60 is just too much for the average person. With F2P they can make similar revenues because of giant population , while each person is still able to afford stuff.
PS3 outsold 360. Shocking how few Americans out there realize this. It outsold 360 month to month starting early on, and only took most of the generation to pass total worldwide numbers because the 360 launched a year earlier to strong success. But by most metrics on the worldwide stage, PS3 was very slightly more "successful" than 360.
Omnistalgic
Member
yeah, but they need to have stock Android though...I'm looking into a Moto X myself.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
Seriously, this. 30 million in two years, still nipping at the PS2's heels, without a single price drop since launch.
There's honestly no possibility that these sales are in any way "front loaded" and i'm still perplexed as to why people were so confident that was the case with zero data to back up the claim?
Yeah, two straight quarters where the PS4 was significantly up YoY, & this holiday should be up YoY as well, that argument doesn't hold weight anymore.
anexanhume
Member
Wow, essentially double the expensive Gen 7 counterparts.
i remember it was generally used towards ps4 and xb1. ps4 is doing great and xb1 is doing okay. neither are keeping up with their explosive launches though, with xb1 falling particularly behind (it's between 360's and ps3's first eight quarters).
boredandlazy
Member
You're looking into it too much.
Just a bit of caution "fellow" consumers, don't predict the PS4 leading the market at all.
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/11/dont-read-too-much-into-the-ps4s-million-day-one-sales/
Please note all these other examples where consoles did not reach 1 million sales within 24 hrs that irrefutably show selling 1 million is in 24hrs is nothing special.
For instance, in 2000, the PlayStation 2 sold about 500,000 units in its first 24 hours on its way to capturing a huge majority of the console market in the coming years. In 2001, Nintendo's GameCube and Microsoft's Xbox sold 500,000 and 550,000 units, respectively, in their first week on store shelves, but neither console maker was able to ride launch sales to PS2-level post-launch success.
The Xbox 360 sold through a healthy 326,000 units in the US in the two weeks following its launch, according to NPD. Sega's Dreamcast, on the other hand, sold a larger 372,000 units in just four days of US sales, Sega said (in what was arguably a smaller market for video games at the time). Yet the Xbox 360 went on to be one of the most dominant consoles of its generation, while the Dreamcast languished on shelves and ceased production just over a year after launch.
Pro move nominating 360 as one of the most dominate consoles in a market including the DS and Wii.
There isn't official numbers, until we have some you can't assure that.
I think the "front-loaded" argument assumes the X1 and PS4 combined. That the PS4/X1 will eventually fall behind the PS3/360 in sales. Which I agree, primarily because the X1 isn't going to sell anywhere near 360 levels.
The Artisan
Member
I think i read that article too much.
TBiddy
Member
Well, it IS getting linked and quoted in every single thread that has anything to do with console shipments.
I don't get why. It's not like that Kyle Orland is the first person on the internet to be wrong.
PdotMichael
Banned
It's so confusing pointless like some weird propaganda message.
BritBloke916
Member
I don't get why either. The guy is simply saying that strong day-one demand does not necessarily indicate continued strong demand over the course of a console's entire existence.
And the Xbox One is starting to prove him right...
Imru al-Qays
Banned
Because they start from the belief that consoles are dying and interpret the data to justify that belief. As to why so many people are so strongly invested in predicting the demise of the home console market - I have no idea.
No.
Beginning of 2011 was when it became apparent Wii was falling off. 2010 was a regular decline, but 2011 was far steeper.
Yeah I know right one should never never call people out for being wrong and using tortured logic consistently, it's the internet after all...
the rate at which Sony is outselling its rival shows some faint glimmers of hope for Microsoft to eventually close the gap.
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/...-its-quarterly-sales-deficit-against-the-ps4/
plus dodgy graphs.
I love how he was instantly able to comment on the last Sony earnings report on the day of release, not so much now.
Today's earnings report from Sony mentioned 2.4 million
Good show in not complaining about Amirox's "Sony is dead" and "1% china =victory". Even though they're also in this very topic and the antithesis of your dislike of calling out people who were wrong.
Because gaf is all about realizing history started yesterday
panda-zebra
Member
But then you put that in the context of plenty of other things he's done since, including the repeated "mistakes" with his misleading bar charts...
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MeisaMcCaffrey
I kinda want a $500+ PS5 with great hardware but that will probably never happen anymore. I don't think there's a market for gaming consoles priced above $400.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
Would never have thought it was that late, seemed to me that 2009 was around the time most casual gamers got tired of it.
Also how do we not have a New Zealand-based GIF yet? That post & thread were legendary.
BritBloke916
Member
I want to see an accelerating zoom-out from a stack of PS4s, gradually revealing that both landmasses of New Zealand are entirely formed from huge unwanted piles of PS4s.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
That's a great idea, I wish I had the skills to pull that off.
Because it's not Iphone or Samsung.
Z2 and Z4 Tablets are outstanding but people doesn't care .
at my local store you have a table wiht only one Z4 tablet surronded by multiple Samsung tab or other brand tab and no body care about the sony tab all they care is samsung.
If Andrew House is still running the show, there's nothing to worry about. If not, who can tell.
Chaos2Frozen
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Imru al-Qays;183494666 said:
My guess is that there are pc gamers that believe consoles are holding back game developers
StrongBlackVine
Banned
I would too, but we are the vast minority.
PC only gamers should happy console exists so that they can get better of versions games that would not exist otherwise.
StrongBlackVine
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Succinct Verbosity
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Wii sales dropped off for a few reasons that I don't think the ps4 shares. Third party support for the wii was drying up and Nintendo didn't appear to have a long term strategy to fix that or keep core gamers. Sony seems to have found a balance of core and casual, not to mention that this party support isn't going anywhere.
No, but Orland continued to write biased articles about console sales, always downplaying PS4 sales (low end of the spectrum) while displaying positive bias towards Xbox sales (high end of the spectrum).
Nightengale
Member
Yup, after the 3rd time, it's plenty laughable how obvious his bias is. He scaled down a lot in the recent ones, but what can you do when proof is in the pudding.
When its main audience moved onto to tablets and smartphones instead.
I believe the Xbox-brand has permanently screwed up its chances to ever become #1 overseas. They are not a newcomer anymore and ultimately not very attractive on a global scale. A rebranding is needed from Microsoft for their next console.
Sony w/ the PS4 landed PSN as the dominant console online community when it mattered. Microsoft was well on track to do so with their X360 build-up but fell face-first just before reaching this 'lock-in' generation.
Sony w/ the PS4 landed PSN as the dominant console online community when it mattered. Microsoft was well on track to do so with their X360 build-up but fell face-first just before reaching this 'lock-in' generation.
Yeah his "we can't know the future Xbox+ PS4-" is a bit tiresome in it constant application.
Is the PS4 due for a price drop in the West? Maybe not
Japanese price cut doesn't necessarily herald worldwide reduction.
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/09/is-the-ps4-due-for-a-price-drop-in-the-west-maybe-not/
Did...did he really link to an article about YouPorn statistics as evidence that the Xbox One was close to PS4 sales in NA?
NPD is pretty close, but come on, using YouPorn statistics as an indicator?
I'd guess that in the interest of subsuming any cognitive dissonance, anything/everything needs to to be fed into his little fantasy world.
Ayato Kanzaki
Member
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360#Sales
80 millions as of October 17, 2013
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3#Sales_and_production_costs
80 millions (as of November 2, 2013)
With Microsoft bundling 360 and XB1 numbers to avoid month-to month comparing with the PS4, and Sony only saying that 3.8 millions PS3 were shipped since the 80M number, getting recent, accurate data is harder.
But if the PS3 reached similar numbers despite being released a year later, we can say that it sold better than the 360.
Acquiescence
Member
Funny how the PS4 is lagging behind the Wii but still ahead of the PS2. At some point in the future, the reverse will be true.
Microsoft's 39 million monthly active users includes free non-Gold accounts, if you want to make that comparison.
Wii was way cheaper