The Lone Courier
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If I were a company like sony I would make the console break itself permanently as soon as its tampered with. lol
No worries they'd probably find a a way around that.
If I were a company like sony I would make the console break itself permanently as soon as its tampered with. lol
As soon as you get file access, trophy fuckery is happening. AFAIK, Sony thought once again that just having an unencrypted trophy file would be A-OK so just like PS3 and Vita, trophy fuckery will exist.
But would that be able to sync-up ok to PSN? it would be kinda lame seeing ultra rare trophies percents being altered.
The people who will do this are probably quite small in the big picture, so it probably wont change much.But would that be able to sync-up ok to PSN? it would be kinda lame seeing ultra rare trophies percents being altered.
Its kinda based on luck in the sense of which exploits that are available. Vita is more proprietary as far as i know, while PS4 is based on FreeBSD. If it wasnt for the BadIRET exploit in FreeBSD, maybe the PS4 wouldnt have been hacked by now. People have definitelly tried to hack the Vita at least.All this progress on other system, where the hell is the ps vita progress? God why you hurt me so.
Here come the multiplayer cheaters. Fun is over when these assholes get their way.
I'm really interested to see if they can install Windows. Even SteamOS would be really cool. It'd be the ultimate console.
Sony teased them actually
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The reality is no matter what was the original intention with this, these kind of things always end up being used for piracy.
The reality is no matter what was the original intention with this, these kind of things always end up being used for piracy.
Here come the multiplayer cheaters. Fun is over when these assholes get their way.
I'm not sure how you leapt from "fail0verflow showed Linux booting on a PS4" to "my multiplayer games are ruined."
You don't need something like this to have multiplayer ruined by assholes. That happens out of the box.
PS4 piracy already exists anyways. If people want to pirate they will.
They don't do it for intellectual curiosity they do it for their own ego. To be hailed by thousands of kids who smell a chance to play games for free, and/or to cheat. That's the majority.
Look at geohot he moved on to actually contribute something positive to the world.
Nobody can argue that because there is some kind of piracy already, or some kind of multiplayer assholery that it doesn't matter anymore: subverting the walled garden experience would make things 100x more unpleasant for the majority. And for what? So someone can add a mod to Witcher 3?
Nett nett it is almost totally a negative contribution, nothing to support or cheer. One of the pleasant features of multiplayer games is a level playing field. People complain about pay to win DLC, but approve of this? I think in the end it's the usual entitlement generation showing up: why can't I wall-hack or trophy hack, why can't I download and run a copy for free, I want it now!
I am talking in general terms about the efforts to subvert the system to escape the code signing protections and fake or otherwise trick the OS to run code.
The only reason that the effort gets any publicity at all is because whatever it discovers or enables is a step down the path to ultimately getting to do the stuff a console maker doesn't want anyone to do, because it threatens the value proposition of the entire platform. They are not in the business of selling hardware but selling a total ecosystem. Security is part of that sale.
Linux on PS4 and 3DS in the same day mad
microsoft's turn next
It means the linux driver doesn't work with the PS4 hardware because there's a hardware operation that behaves differently to what the driver expects. It's not unusual for hardware to have these odd issues that just have to be worked around. Especially hardware that lives behind a driver, or is in a fixed platform.What does that mean? Linux problem or easier to access the GPU drivers?
Send it in for repairs for free.
All they have to do is ban PSN accounts, since online multiplayer requires PS Plus now the same as Xbox Live it will cut down the hacking. That's the reason why it was worst on the PS3 because online multiplayer was free, even though the 360 got hacked well before the PS3 did.
From what I remember, people with hacked 360's would only (mostly?) get banned if they ran pirated software. You could hack your own 360 and run your own backups and they would be fine as it would be a unique ID.
I could be remembering incorrectly though.
I never understood the appeal of this. If they want Linux or custom roms or whatever the hell they want to do with it, why not just mess around on PC? Am I missing something?
I never understood the appeal of this. If they want Linux or custom roms or whatever the hell they want to do with it, why not just mess around on PC? Am I missing something?
I never understood the appeal of this. If they want Linux or custom roms or whatever the hell they want to do with it, why not just mess around on PC? Am I missing something?
No, heaps of ppl had their xbox live accounts banned also for cheating; both occurred, xbox live account banning and console ID bans. Have a look at any of the old forum posts at relevant forums
Marcan wrote on their blog about this.
https://fail0verflow.com/blog/2015/console-hacking-2015-liner-notes.html
Basically, what he's saying is that they will only work to give PS4 official Linux support, hardware acceleration and turn it into a "Steam Machine" able to run indie and even AAA games.
They are not releasing any exploits because that usually turns into piracy and they don't want to be responsible of, like they were with Wii and PS3.
But he says PS4 security is pretty bad and other people will publish exploits needed to install Linux.
Marcan wrote on their blog about this.
https://fail0verflow.com/blog/2015/console-hacking-2015-liner-notes.html
Basically, what he's saying is that they will only work to give PS4 official Linux support, hardware acceleration and turn it into a "Steam Machine" able to run indie and even AAA games.
They are not releasing any exploits because that usually turns into piracy and they don't want to be responsible of, like they were with Wii and PS3.
But he says PS4 security is pretty bad and other people will publish exploits needed to install Linux.
Good guy, marcan. Hopefully this will stop the nonsense in this thread about piracy. I really hope for Linux on ps4 and look forward to exploits which enable it so one can take even more advantage of the hardware.
Came across 2 guys level 800 last night on BO3, pointed me in the direction of a guy running a modded lobby shop on a site for $65. Related to this?
I see. But would that be concidered broken though? Or maybe he just ment broken as in not compatible.It means the linux driver doesn't work with the PS4 hardware because there's a hardware operation that behaves differently to what the driver expects. It's not unusual for hardware to have these odd issues that just have to be worked around. Especially hardware that lives behind a driver, or is in a fixed platform.
Thanks for this, an interesting read.Marcan wrote on their blog about this.
https://fail0verflow.com/blog/2015/console-hacking-2015-liner-notes.html
Basically, what he's saying is that they will only work to give PS4 official Linux support, hardware acceleration and turn it into a "Steam Machine" able to run indie and even AAA games.
They are not releasing any exploits because that usually turns into piracy and they don't want to be responsible of, like they were with Wii and PS3.
But he says PS4 security is pretty bad and other people will publish exploits needed to install Linux.
I agree that its cool that they're trying to avoid it, i am however curious on how it will work in practice. I wonder if someone will be able to release an exploit that will only allows for Linux to boot, and not leading to anyone else tinkering with such exploit. I guess thats the idea here. I cant really see it happening if someone releases a kernel exploit.Good guy, marcan. Hopefully this will stop the nonsense in this thread about piracy. I really hope for Linux on ps4 and look forward to exploits which enable it so one can take even more advantage of the hardware.
Piracy is a big part of it if things are blown wide open, so i wouldnt say that its pointless. Well, perhaps pointless in the sense that things wouldnt change regardless of whats being said, but i see no harm in people discussing it when its relevant.Let's not forget Geohot released his cfw without piracy support. I Believe it was less then A day later a modified version came out with it.
I'm pro jail breaking and unlocking. I hate how every thread on gaf with this topic dissolves into a piracy or cheating debate. Let's keep the pointless comments out of this.
Hopefully the doors get blown wide open. I'll gladly grab a second ps4.
I never understood the appeal of this. If they want Linux or custom roms or whatever the hell they want to do with it, why not just mess around on PC? Am I missing something?
Can't you use the PS4 GPU for emulating, too?It does run indeed. Although run is a big word as you can see on that video.
Dolphin is dual threaded. So it would run on two PS4 cores.
GPUs can be used for any general purpose computation, but unless you're doing large amounts of calculations that can be done in parallel, then a CPU is your best bet. When it comes to emulation, due to timing/sync issues the amount of threads you can run will usually be limited to the amount of processors (CPU+GPU+sound) that the original console had (plus maybe one or two extra if someone figures out the odd thing that doesn't need to be precisely timed).Can't you use the PS4 GPU for emulating, too?
Oh come on, the idea of having a single box under your TV that can run PS4 games and SteamOS games doesn't sound cool to you?Yet another system you can hack to run old games on. Seriously why go through this effort every console generation. Go buy a PC and don't worry about violating terms of service and getting your account banned.
The PS4 is hardware wise a PC with standard APIs except for parts of the MediaCON=Southbridge=Aeolia (Marvell name).Sony is going to patch out the web browser now and Jeff Rigby is gonna be super sad.
Yep, getting a pc for 299 which plays Sony games and is able to run Linux and Retroarch. Show me a pc that does both for the same price.
The PS4 is hardware wise a PC with standard APIs except for parts of the MediaCON=Southbridge=Aeolia (Marvell name).
Sony does not allow anyone except Japan programmers to touch Southbridge because Sony management is still traditional and incompetent and dont see the value of hiring fresh outside talent that might improve their software development issues
The main thing I got out of this was seeing the codename for PS4's APU mentioned again; Liverpool - It's been awhile since I heard that name.
That goes way back, well before PS4 was announced, At least mid 2012.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=477540