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Rumor: GFK Market Research Survey about Nintendo NX leaked

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gofreak

GAF's Bob Woodward
There's nothing really 'so weird it could be true' about this. Haven't they been saying it's going to be something totally new that we haven't seen before? I'm not sure taking a game from console to handheld is really all that new.
 

nbnt

is responsible for the well-being of this island.
Did people really expect the next Nintendo console to be super powerful? Lol.
 
Aaaaand the first negative hyperbole surrounding NX is a reality.

900p will stick, even if is incorrect information, and if it is correct, it merely says something over the graphical capabilities optimized for 900p resolution, not that is can't output 1080p. Then again, as a tech-enthusiast, it would be dissapointing.

What Nintendo needs to do is be aggressive towards these rumours, if they are not true, instead of keeping their mouth shut. That does not mean giving any significant info, but rather just dismantle this rumour by telling it via an official statement it is not true. These negative hyperboles can really damage the momentum they have build up, until this point regarding mysterious/eagerness to see what by gamers, as is evidenced by this thread and facebook reactions.

Nintendo marketing needs to step it up.

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Nintendo has a presentation to investors scheduled on February 2nd at 8 PM ET.

They'll probably start talking about NX then.

If not in February, then they'll reveal it like how they revealed the Wii U (in late April).
 

-Horizon-

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How does 900p scale down to the handheld? I honestly don't know and was hoping someone would tell me. Would it make a 540p screen? 480p?
 
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Nintendo has a presentation to investors scheduled on February 2nd at 8 PM ET.

They'll probably start talking about NX then.

If not then, then they'll reveal it like how they revealed the Wii U (in late April).

I highly doubt they will say much about the NX on an investor call. Companies don't generally do that.
 
The survey including the Nintendo NX part or just a GFK general survey?
And where was it confirmed?

Emily Rogers says it's legit and that NintendoWorldReport got the same one, but she points out that just because the survey's real doesn't mean everything in it is fact (since GFK probably know as much as we do about NX).
https://twitter.com/Emi1yRogers/status/689825168735088641

I highly doubt they will say much about the NX on an investor call. Companies don't generally do that.

They could at least maybe announce when they're planning to finally give more details (e.g. at GDC) as a "please look forward to it" thing. I think?
 

RowdyReverb

Member
900p60 isn't a bad target, especially for a Nintendo console. Were people really expecting Nintendo to leapfrog the other consoles on the technical front while maintaining their treasured sub-$300 price point and adding some kind of handheld functionality?

Of all game consumers, I'd expect Nintendo's audience to give the least of shits about resolution and the greatest of shits about price
 

Boogdud

Member
I'm not nearly as upset about 900p as I am about another sensor bar. Assuming any of this is remotely close to the truth.
 

Hyoukokun

Member
This was made by a 12 year-old.

This looks exactly like something GFK would produce, to me. The text was likely translated from German - GFK is a German company and they do a lot of their primary questionnaire drafting in German.

Spec-wise, this looks fairly plausible and matches the rumblings we'd heard about the hardware being XBox One levels of performance.
 
Emily Rogers:
Survey is real. Nintendo World Report has the rest of the survey. But that doesn't mean info in the survey is real.

When Emily Rogers of all people asks you to be cautious with rumors, you know whats up.
 

gus-gus

Banned
I guess Nintendo probably leaked this themselves. It seems we're the ones taking the survey for them. They probably figure it would reach neogaf eventually.
 
I highly doubt they will say much about the NX on an investor call. Companies don't generally do that.

Nintendo has a tendency to reveal information for upcoming fiscal years at these presentations.

For example, in the past they have revealed their smartphone plans, or upcoming games that haven't been talked about yet, etc.
 

RowdyReverb

Member
I guess Nintendo probably leaked this themselves. It seems we're the ones taking the survey for them. They probably figure it would reach neogaf eventually.
If their goal was to appease NeoGAF's opinions, they're setting themselves up for failure
 

tesla246

Member
I think you're over-worrying here a little. Random internet picture of a supposed NX related survey says 900p/60fps - that's not going to stick unless you get something more concrete.

You might be right, but you'd be surprised on what sticks at the general/''casual'' gaming audience. They pick up on one aspect, but then don't follow gaming news and are unaware of any new developments. Just this month my sister was surprised WiiU was a new console instead of ''just a new controller for wii'' when playing games, and I still hear people saying Xbone doesnt support used games.

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Nintendo has a presentation to investors scheduled on February 2nd at 8 PM ET.

They'll probably start talking about NX then.

If not in February, then they'll reveal it like how they revealed the Wii U (in late April).

I've been thinking for about a year NX will not release 2016, but rather early 2017, and they might start talking about NX sometime after E3. Depending on how the reveal goes, it may absolutely get sandwitched in NOV/DEC npd between Xone and PS4, certainly in the US. Also, 2016 will be the year of mobile. I may be wrong of course, but considering the position nintendo is in console-wise speaking, it may be wiser to launch in a relatively quiet period (march) and garner enough positive attention/momentum so they also sell well during the holidays.
 

Davey Cakes

Member
I like 1080p.

That said, if they could maintain a 900p/60fp STANDARD, I'd probably be okay with it so long as the console can allocate resources elsewhere. For example, supporting 4-player splitscreen at 60fps in any multiplayer games where that would make sense. Performance is really important to me.

Otherwise it would be disappointing.
 
I'm not buying it.

900p/60fps. Is that supposed to be mandated? Like for real now, i know it's fun to make tun oft Nintendo, and lol they Don't know what they're doing etc. But come on people.

And what's ridiculous about 4k/60fps Video streams? If it is even a bit more powerful than the WiiU that is no problem at all.

Ps.: fuck typing on mobile, and fuck autocorrect.
 

Hermii

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Emily Rogers says it's legit and that NintendoWorldReport got the same one, but she points out that just because the survey's real doesn't mean everything in it is fact (since GFK probably know as much as we do about NX).
So it's fucking nothing then. Just a survey based on internet rumors.
 

iFirez

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Do you guys really think all NX games will be 900p/60fps?

With other words the very first plattform in existence where every game has the exact same resolution and framerate?

You have to be joking.

Exactly, three big Nintendo first party games on the Wii U are all different resolutions and frame rates. Mario Kart 8 = 720p 60fps, Super Smash Bros = 1080p 60fps, Wind Waker HD = 1080p 30fps.
 

The_Lump

Banned
Even if this was true (seriously, can anyone see why they'd specify a resolution limit???) if all gameplay graphics were locked at 900p/60fps that would be a fine with me.

But point is, resolution is never a finite specification of a games console
(unless it has a built in screen ⊙___⊙)

Do you guys really think all NX games will be 900p/60fps?

With other words the very first plattform in existence where every game has the exact same resolution and framerate?

You have to be joking.

Yeah the level of blind hyperbole in this thread is amazing. I have to assume most of it is in jest.
 
900p for offline gameplay, but 4K 'video streaming' when you connect it to the internet and use other people's consoles in standby mode to supplement your console's processing power. You know, just like in that patent that surfaced a while back...

Well, that'd be wishful thinking anyway.
 

Moosehole

Member
If that 900p is true I won't touch this with a 100 foot pole.

Had enough of Ninty being 5 years behind everyone else.
 

Kureransu

Member
When the Wii U was announced, Nintendo mentioned that 720p would be the MINIMUM resolution fit the system. If anything, I imagine these numbers would be the minimal target for games on the system.

Game system can hit 1080p no problem, the issue is that the system isn't just displaying a picture in your 9 year old TV. If you want to have the performance to get 1080 with 60 fps, then you either need updated hardware, or cut out other aspects of the game to get it.

Also the NX isn't 2016 tech, just like the Ps4/xb1 wasn't 2013 tech.
 

Fawk Nin

Member
Aaaaand the first negative hyperbole surrounding NX is a reality.

Things like ''900p'' will stick, even if is incorrect information unless they invalidate such rumours immediately. In the case of this rumour being correct, it merely says something over the graphical capabilities optimized for 900p resolution, I would highly doubt it cannot output 1080p. Then again, suspecting low-hardware targeting 900p, as a tech-enthusiast, it would be dissapointing.

What Nintendo needs to do is be aggressive towards these rumours, if they are not true, instead of keeping their mouth shut. That does not mean giving any significant infoon NX, but rather just dismantle this rumour by telling via an official statement it is simply not true. These negative hyperboles can really damage the momentum they have build up, until this point regarding mysterious/eagerness to see what by gamers, as is evidenced by this thread and facebook reactions.

Nintendo marketing needs to step it up.

Or this could be some marketing genius in which they lower hype before a big reveal. (/sarcasm...kind of)
 

kraspkibble

Permabanned.
why on earth can they not go for 1080p 60fps? it's Mario/Zelda not The Witcher 3 or Fallout 4. 900p is a joke. no product in 2016 should release with anything below 1080p. it should be the absolute minimum.

it's about time that Nintendo create a service similar to PSN/XBL. it seems that's what is mentioned where it says you can play online with others/earn achievements.

i'm interested to see how the console and handheld stuff works. would be pretty cool if you could use the handheld as a controller while playing on the console then when you aren't near the console the entire game is shifted to the handheld. if 900p is what they need to go with to make this happen then i suppose it wouldn't be too bad after all.
 
I guess Nintendo probably leaked this themselves. It seems we're the ones taking the survey for them. They probably figure it would reach neogaf eventually.

You have to be joking. The NX, whatever it is, is a finished product at this point. They are likely working on the OS and tooling for the manufacturing lines.
 
So it's fucking nothing then. Just a survey based on internet rumors.

Basically. It's likely just GFK collecting all the rumours and speculation floating around (mixed with some of their own thoughts), and then asking the market what they think of them.
 

Atram

Member
looking at the whole Survey could put this in some other context (the NX Part is at 75%). It depends what was asked before...
 

thefro

Member
Even if this is a real GFK survey, we don't know whether GFK sent this out on behalf of Nintendo, a retailer, a service like Netflix, or a 3rd party publisher.

I find it very doubtful that the system would be able to handle streaming 4K video yet only be able to output natively at 900p for games on a TV screen. Wii U already has some games that are native 1080p.

900p is actually a better resolution than people were expecting for the handheld (most were thinking 720p), so I'd be okay with that res for the handheld unit.

I don't think anyone expects this system to be a quantum leap over PS4/XB1 in terms of raw power. It's likely there will be a newer version of the platform when PS5/XB2 hit.
 
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