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Rumor: GFK Market Research Survey about Nintendo NX leaked
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unless its the handheld, then you definitely have a limit on the resolution you can display due to the screen. And Matt's rumor never said WHAT the resolution he saw was, only that its higher that what some thought and lower than what others hoped. Which sounds like is people thought 720P, then 900 is higher, and as, (Judging by the "my phone does 1080P in its sleep" type posts, lower than what some hope for.
I think it's the part where all the sources you're citing say it will support 4K eventually but that it doesn't right now that is causing contention. You don't seem to know the difference between the present and the future.
Deserted Maniac Island
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Why would the system name be the codename "NX", nintendo has never done this before. The Wii was not called the "Revolution", and Gamecube was not called "Dolphin".
And has Nintendo ever said what there console is capable of, like the Wii U didn't say it can run games 720p/60fps, right?
And has Nintendo ever said what there console is capable of, like the Wii U didn't say it can run games 720p/60fps, right?
Tatsumi Oga
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Damn, you got a point there. Stupid of me to not even consider that.
This is a rumor and should be taken with a grain of salt obviously. However, this hardware is releasing within the next two years so targeting fucking 900p is completely unacceptable (target resolutions should increase with time, not stagnate or decrease). The vast majority of gamers don't even have screens with that are native 900p.
You haven't cited any videos of 4K playback at all. The one you posted earlier was of a still photograph. We were talking about 4K video playback, which the NX would be the first console to support if this rumour is to be believed, which—as events have transpired—probably shouldn't.
That article was written before PS4 launched about what sony said the PS4 would do. That doesn't mean it currently does it.
They also said the PS4 would allow you to suspend games, which it also didn't do at launch.
PS4 might support 4K video in the future, but it currently does not.
brandonh83
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Yes I believe it supports 4k but not 1080p.
I totally do. I'm so worried.
I totally do. I'm so worried.
What the hell? BC is a good thing. They already sell Wii and Wii U games digitally on the eShop, why should they not allow support for those digital titles with future consoles? How on earth does that hurt their business?
Spyder_Monkey
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...Jesus Christ people.
perfectchaos007
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Considering the Wii U tablet screen is 480p, I would love a 900p screen on the NX handheld
To create discussions like these.
aka nonsense.
All they have to do is get a game running at 1080p and they can market it as 1080p.
No reason why they'd promote 900p like it was a feature or specification.
Since these are software specifications being leaked, I guess we can assume the NX is just a cloud service after all. There will be software clients for any hardware that is powerful enough to match these specs that wants it.
Nintendo will stay relevant because you can only get the premium experience on their dedicated NX clients.
That little box thing they patented will be the middleman that allows for cloud calculations as mentioned in the patent, but also provide an interface for plugging in Nintendo hardware like Wii/Wii u controllers and sensor bars.
It will play a huge amount of older games, and will be doing it via video streaming technology that worked on with the Wii u. Battery life will still be good because it's streaming video, and not doing any realtime rendering on the device itself.
Nintendo will stay relevant because you can only get the premium experience on their dedicated NX clients.
That little box thing they patented will be the middleman that allows for cloud calculations as mentioned in the patent, but also provide an interface for plugging in Nintendo hardware like Wii/Wii u controllers and sensor bars.
It will play a huge amount of older games, and will be doing it via video streaming technology that worked on with the Wii u. Battery life will still be good because it's streaming video, and not doing any realtime rendering on the device itself.
4K is likely referring to the interface/video playback through third-party apps.
dealer-
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Yup, Xbox One can do 720p/60fps. This means the NX could be as powerful as the PS4, which would be fine for third party ports such as FF7 remake.
That your video is bullshit because the PS4 is physically running in 1080p.
What Sony says means jack shit when the fact remains that you cannot set the PS4 to output at 4K. I have a 4K set and a 4K monitor. I cannot set the PS4 to run at 4K in it's video settings, and neither can you. I'm done responding to your trolling.
basically :/
Codename DS became The Nintendo DS.
Wii U supports 1080p (smash 4 is 1080p 60fps)
Bjoern the Smexy
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This is the same company that sells their current console with an included HDMI cable.
Sony sold (and probably still sells) the PS3 without an included HDMI cable, just for reference.
EDIT: Edited to avoid more confusion and people calling me names just because of a wrong number.
GustyGardens
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That's what I was thinking as I was reading a lot of the outrage. It could be Nintendo's in-house look and run pretty target. Xbox One games tend to look rather nice, if i'm being honest.
It means the whole thing is fake as hell, and people are just silly for continuing to discuss it.
There's no way anyone with any real info or basic technical knowledge would put 900p/60fps as a bullet point for an unreleased console, especially next to exciting revelations like "includes an HDMI cable".
Jonneh3003
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Yeah I'm a bit thrown by everything listed in the OP. Why does it say "Gameplay graphics at 900p 60fps"? Lots of people here saying it means it can do more than that but that isn't what it says at all. Seems irrelevant to even have 900p at 60fps in there at all, why not 1080p if it can do 1080p? We have Wii U games at 1080p 60fps.
Also the very first point about exclusive franchises is just a generic list "Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong and more", there probably isn't a Donkey Kong or Zelda on NX ready to show to the public.
It just screams fake.
ARM is CPU related, the main problem would be the GPU. If you mean PS4 graphics at 900p on a handheld, no.
If you mean Wii U graphics at 900p on a handheld... still no. Those chips would be too big and power hungry for a handheld. Maybe in a tablet sized sku, some stuff like the Tegra X1 and equivalent from other manufacturers.
The strangest thing is that people keep ignoring that this isn't a Nintendo survey.
Breakfast at Noon
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No power lead in the box?
Ffs it's the 3ds all over again.
Ffs it's the 3ds all over again.
Tatsumi Oga
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Are you seriously surprised? Xbox One got a lot of shit for that too.
Colonel Mustard
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I thought the DS was project Nitro?
Bjoern the Smexy
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As already posted, there are Wii games on the eShop, some of which (like Metroid Prime Trilogy or Punch-Out!!) actually require the sensor bar and Wiimote (and Nunchuk) to be played.
My launch PS4 included an hdmi cable.
Fourth Storm
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They're trying to gauge how much people would pay for certain features and a certain package. It makes sense. This was not meant for public consumption.
Bjoern the Smexy
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"DS" was never a codename.
It stood for "Developer System" and once people thought it meant "Dual Screen", Nintendo just stuck with it because people were right.
DS's codename was Nitro.
My white PS4 didn't have one.
I'm from Germany, maybe it's just a European thing? SCEE can be pretty scummy...
FunkyDealer
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Sensor bar is the big news if true.
But I agree it sounds fake. Who would list a resolution and framerate like that?
But I agree it sounds fake. Who would list a resolution and framerate like that?
dodgykebaab
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Apart from the video I linked of a user showing it working....
StereoVsn
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Some thoughts.
1. This is fake.
2. If this wasn't fake, this is targett d toward Devs isn't it? So having a target goal of 900p/60fps is not outrageous.
3. 900p for handheld is ambitious. Vita is 540p and a lot of games are not native res. Those $200-$250 phones won't output complex graphics at 1080p and will last couple hours when purely gaming.
4. Nothing here is really surprising except for the whole thing is fake.
1. This is fake.
2. If this wasn't fake, this is targett d toward Devs isn't it? So having a target goal of 900p/60fps is not outrageous.
3. 900p for handheld is ambitious. Vita is 540p and a lot of games are not native res. Those $200-$250 phones won't output complex graphics at 1080p and will last couple hours when purely gaming.
4. Nothing here is really surprising except for the whole thing is fake.
Tatsumi Oga
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Plenty of rumours about Xbox One turned out to be true, it's possible that we're getting legitamite stuff now. Or it's all complete bullshit, nothing but speculation. Why are people only mentioning the handheld? It will be a console too.
Breakfast at Noon
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Bullshit.
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