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Rumor: GFK Market Research Survey about Nintendo NX leaked

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AdanVC

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Everything sounds good to me except for the sensor bar thing. Kimishima said they would move out of the Wii brand with NX : / They don't learn...
 

Spy

Member
The sooner Nintendo fans give up with the idea of a really powerful Nintendo box and the better will be for their feelings. They just can't afford to sell high tech hardware at a loss and raw power doesn't mean winning on the market, third party support is FAR more important.
If the rumor is true it's clear they're targeting XB1 like specs and to me that's pretty realistic.
If their console isn't powerful, there will be no third party support.
 

Sponge

Banned
What am I reading!? A) "but that Donkey Kong game has a disappointing story" said no one, ever B) Jungle Beat RULES, Bongos or Wii version. I liked it better than DKCR.

It's like you didn't even read what I wrote. Of course people don't care about the story because it's a platformer. There is nothing wrong with the gameplay, I loved it. I hated that they were gonna get rid of Diddy, Dixie and Cranky. It wasn't a one time spinoff originally. It was gonna retcon those characters and I think that alone is enough reason for me to be upset with the story.

If Nintendo wanted to make a Jungle Beat 2 with the same gameplay then sign me up but it's just not Donkey Kong Country. It was lacking in characters, atmosphere, and especially music.
 

maxcriden

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But if it is really low powered, then the handheld won't even need to be a scaled down version of the home console - it could literally be the same but in a different box (maybe with the home version having the whole 4K thing for netflix etc)

It would be even less powerful than Wii U, then. I doubt the handheld will be as powerful as Wii U.

Everything sounds good to me except for the sensor bar thing. Kimishima said they would move out of the Wii brand with NX : / They don't learn...

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Adan don't read too much into any of this, bro. :)
 

Oersted

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You're right. We absolutely don't. But expecting Nintendo to release a console (and we know it's at least one dedicated games machine coming, and likely a console and handheld) that is as powerful as the PS4 is expecting something that runs counter to every reasonable rumor and sourced bit of info we have. Nintendo is rumored to look to sell NX at a relatively low price point. We know the console and handheld will almost certainly be part of a family of systems (likely meaning a shared OS and mostly and entirely shared library of games). Ergo, it's unlikely it will be more powerful than PS4.



900/60 is silly. I agree. It tells us absolutely nothing, as I said upthread. As Cronoshot said above, resolution and specs depend entirely on framerate. PS4 can run 1080/60, right? I'm sure NX console is more powerful than a Wii U...but less than a PS4.



What else does the survey say? Can I see it somewhere? And...who is they? Nintendo or the market research firm? Or both?

Yes, they wanted to. Nintendo also planned to do QoL and to not develop smartphone games.

We don't know what currently their fucking plans are and how many they actually can turn into reality.
 
Everything sounds good to me except for the sensor bar thing. Kimishima said they would move out of the Wii brand with NX : / They don't learn...

Because this is totally fact.

This thread should just be closed. Nothing useful is coming out of it except misleading people.
 

Oddduck

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It's funny that people here freak out on the sensor bar, like you don't want Wii BC potentially?

If they are gonna have Wii VC they will need sensor bars, so I dont get the issue there

I was thinking the same thing.

I don't see how it's crazy that Nintendo might be interested in reselling old Wii and Wii U games on NX's eShop. And you do need the sensor bar for certain games like Nintendo Land and Wii Sports Club.
 

gtj1092

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Same fidelity 900/60 requires a more powerful machine than 1080/30. This is why "lol 900" means nothing, because it tells us nothing (on top of meaning nothing in the context it is used within here).

It's must mean something if you're here to to ensure no one thinks anything bad about video game market saver NX.
Remember folks only believe the rumors that are too good to be true. So soon we forget the Wii U hype.
 
900p isn't much of a deal to me, though I can see them achieving 1080p before the console comes out, but it's nice to see them targeting 60 FPS. As long as the games looks fun and interesting. I don't mind playing them at 900p.

The connectivity between the NX console and the NX handheld is what really interest me, and want to see how it works. I wonder if it's sorta like how the Wii U works with the gamepad, but as a actual handheld, or it works like the PS4 and vita in a way.

Achievements is nice...

Does the Wii U have video calls already? (Don't have one yet, and can't remember if it did)

4K streaming great, though I don't see myself using it as I would be mainly playing games on it mainly

Sensor bar? Maybe Wii and Wii U backwards compatibility...

Now for the controller, I wonder if the NX will have a regular traditional controller like the Gamecube or something with a gimmick like the Wii and Wii U.
 

-Horizon-

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This is obviously a typo, it's supposed to be 9000p/600fps

I also have sources (my dog) that have confirmed all the dev kits are required to be plugged into two potatoes duct taped together in a glass of lemon juice. They're trying to bypass the potatoes on the consumer model though. Give me a couple of days and I'll work up an insider memo for everyone...

aw snap here we go

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maxcriden

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Yes, they wanted to. Nintendo also planned to do QoL and to not develop smartphone games.

We don't know what currently their fucking plans are and how many they actually can turn into reality.

Oersted, you sound mad with the 'fucking.' If I irked you, my apologies. I was just intending on a spirited debate.

You're absolutely right that we don't know what their plans are. But the thread about "what we know about NX with sources" does not indicate at all that NX will be some mega-powerful machine. Nor would that be wise or likely for Nintendo to do, in most scenarios I can think of.

QoL is still coming as far as we know. NX will change in development of course but there are reasonable conclusions we can draw.
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
I was thinking the same thing.

I don't see how it's crazy that Nintendo might be interested in reselling old Wii and Wii U games on NX's eShop. And you do need the sensor bar for certain games like Nintendo Land and Wii Sports Club.

So sell the sensor bar separately like you have to with the wiiU basic set. Most games on wiiU these days don't even use the sensor bar so why would Nintendo bring it back?
 
900p just shot themselves in the 900p.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about 900p (I'm an expert), but 900p and 900p are huge parts of 900p. It's not like it is in 900p where you can become successful by being 900p. If you screw someone over in 900p, you bring 900p to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that 900p is 900p.

What this means is the 900p 900p, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase 900p for either 900p, nor will they purchase any of 900p's 900p. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but 900p has alienated an entire 900p with this 900p.

900p, publicly apologize and cancel 900p for 900p or you can kiss your 900p goodbye.
 

Davey Cakes

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900p just shot themselves in the 900p.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about 900p (I'm an expert), but 900p and 900p are huge parts of 900p. It's not like it is in 900p where you can become successful by being 900p. If you screw someone over in 900p, you bring 900p to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that 900p is 900p.

What this means is the 900p 900p, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase 900p for either 900p, nor will they purchase any of 900p's 900p. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but 900p has alienated an entire 900p with this 900p.

900p, publicly apologize and cancel 900p for 900p or you can kiss your 900p goodbye.
That's a lot of 900p!
 

Rodin

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900p just shot themselves in the 900p.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about 900p (I'm an expert), but 900p and 900p are huge parts of 900p. It's not like it is in 900p where you can become successful by being 900p. If you screw someone over in 900p, you bring 900p to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that 900p is 900p.

What this means is the 900p 900p, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase 900p for either 900p, nor will they purchase any of 900p's 900p. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but 900p has alienated an entire 900p with this 900p.

900p, publicly apologize and cancel 900p for 900p or you can kiss your 900p goodbye.

900/1600
 
Its funnier that people believe they have the recipe for success and Nintendo only has to ask them.

Indeed, people believe Nintendo are out of touch with the community but I believe that most of the community are out of touch with them. A lot of people here don't know what Nintendo is all about and I know from previous threads that some haven't even played a Nintendo game, not even Mario.
 

Seik

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Hope that 900p thing isn't true, MS ate a lot of shit with ports having that resolution, I can see the same thing happen to Nintendo. Thought if their games end up all being 60FPS though...why not...eh.

Sensor bar is probably for BC, so to me it sounds like a good thing...if it's for BC exclusively.

900p just shot themselves in the 900p.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about 900p (I'm an expert), but 900p and 900p are huge parts of 900p. It's not like it is in 900p where you can become successful by being 900p. If you screw someone over in 900p, you bring 900p to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that 900p is 900p.

What this means is the 900p 900p, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase 900p for either 900p, nor will they purchase any of 900p's 900p. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but 900p has alienated an entire 900p with this 900p.

900p, publicly apologize and cancel 900p for 900p or you can kiss your 900p goodbye.

/dead
 

Vena

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It's must mean something if you're here to to ensure no one thinks anything bad about video game market saver NX.
Remember folks only believe the rumors that are too good to be true. So soon we forget the Wii U hype.

No it really means nothing. The reason for this is because "900p/60FPS" is not a spec and it tells you no information, one does not spec a console or a handheld for "900p/60FPS", this is not a thing. One can spec for a target like the WiiU's original leak of "supports 720p/1080p" one does not spec for "gameplay graphics at 900p/60FPS" no one specs out a framerate, they target one.

If the reality of this hurts your feelings to the point of having to call me out, then I am sorry.
 

AHA-Lambda

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900p just shot themselves in the 900p.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about 900p (I'm an expert), but 900p and 900p are huge parts of 900p. It's not like it is in 900p where you can become successful by being 900p. If you screw someone over in 900p, you bring 900p to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that 900p is 900p.

What this means is the 900p 900p, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase 900p for either 900p, nor will they purchase any of 900p's 900p. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but 900p has alienated an entire 900p with this 900p.

900p, publicly apologize and cancel 900p for 900p or you can kiss your 900p goodbye.

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RedSwirl

Junior Member
So that 900p/60fps thing makes this bullshit right? You can't have a system where all games automatically run at a certain resolution and framerate. The Wii U has 1080p games.
 

Caleones

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I wouldn't worry too much about the 900p/60fps portion of it, assuming this survey is true of course. The indication would be that the NX would be 900/60p native, or what they are shooting for as the minimum requirements for the games running on it, and then it would be upscaled to 1080p.

This is no different to PS4 games running at 900p and being upscaled to 1080p or XONE running at 720p and being upscaled to 1080p. Here's a link from IGN on the native resolution of some games: http://www.ign.com/wikis/xbox-one/PS4_vs._Xbox_One_Native_Resolutions_and_Framerates
 

jmizzal

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Aaaaand the first negative hyperbole surrounding NX is a reality.

Things like ''900p'' will stick, even if is incorrect information unless they invalidate such rumours immediately. In the case of this rumour being correct, it merely says something over the graphical capabilities optimized for 900p resolution, I would highly doubt it cannot output 1080p. Then again, suspecting low-hardware targeting 900p, as a tech-enthusiast, it would be dissapointing.

What Nintendo needs to do is be aggressive towards these rumours, if they are not true, instead of keeping their mouth shut. That does not mean giving any significant infoon NX, but rather just dismantle this rumour by telling via an official statement it is simply not true. These negative hyperboles can really damage the momentum they have build up, until this point regarding mysterious/eagerness to see what by gamers, as is evidenced by this thread and facebook reactions.

Nintendo marketing needs to step it up.

100% agree its stuff like this that hurt WiiU, negative article after negative article before it even was announced and came out

Even tho this stuff isnt that negative, since most games on Xbox1 and PS4 are sub 900p and sub 60fps but people will latch on to that.

Stuff like this even hurt Xbox one early on
 

RAWi

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900p just shot themselves in the 900p.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about 900p (I'm an expert), but 900p and 900p are huge parts of 900p. It's not like it is in 900p where you can become successful by being 900p. If you screw someone over in 900p, you bring 900p to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that 900p is 900p.

What this means is the 900p 900p, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase 900p for either 900p, nor will they purchase any of 900p's 900p. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but 900p has alienated an entire 900p with this 900p.

900p, publicly apologize and cancel 900p for 900p or you can kiss your 900p goodbye.

That a lot of P !!!

You should drink less water, my friend.
 

flux1

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I rather have 60 fps over the increased resolution. So 900p/60 is fine with me. When playing Wii U games on my TV I think they look good, so a slightly higher resolution for them works.

I hope the sensor bar is only for backwards compatibility sake. Seeing how well Dolphin runs, they should be able to emulate the Wii on here without much issue. Another gimmick control scheme would be a heavy blow to me over getting one out the gate.
 
I'm assuming the boxed HDMI cable comes with a limiter to ensure a maximum output resolution of 1600x900p, unless you're streaming video of course. Then it goes up to 4K.
 

Vena

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100% agree its stuff like this that hurt WiiU, negative article after negative article before it even was announced and came out

Even tho this stuff isnt that negative, since most games on Xbox1 and PS4 are sub 900p and sub 60fps but people will latch on to that.

Stuff like this even hurt Xbox one early on

Interestingly enough, no one has made any articles on this information yet and I was expecting them plastered all over.
 
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Deleted member 325805

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I'd rather 900p/60 then 1080p/30, just look at Battlefront. That being said 1080p/60 should be the goal for a new console IMO.
 

Yukinari

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Why are people freaking out over including a sensor bar? I dont know if you some you realize this or not but there are Nintendo games that actually play better with motion control.
 

AdanVC

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Adan don't read too much into any of this, bro. :)

I can't help it haha. Good thing this are only rumors. I just hope that new Mario game listed there is real. It's time for an epic new 3D Mario game.

Because this is totally fact.

This thread should just be closed. Nothing useful is coming out of it except misleading people.

True true. Let's just wait till the actual investors meeting on early february. Plenty sure Nintendo will finally reveal details of the platform there. Just two more weeks.
 
900p just shot themselves in the 900p.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about 900p (I'm an expert), but 900p and 900p are huge parts of 900p. It's not like it is in 900p where you can become successful by being 900p. If you screw someone over in 900p, you bring 900p to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that 900p is 900p.

What this means is the 900p 900p, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase 900p for either 900p, nor will they purchase any of 900p's 900p. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but 900p has alienated an entire 900p with this 900p.

900p, publicly apologize and cancel 900p for 900p or you can kiss your 900p goodbye.
BRAVO! :D
 

ultrazilla

Gold Member
If they're going for parity between the console and handheld ie the same graphics output with no difference in visual quality, I'm ok with 900p60fps. I deal with it on my Xbox One so this isn't that big a deal to me.

That said, that may only be the resolution "lock in" for parity between the handheld and console. We have no idea if there will be "home console mode only" graphics options such as 1080p 60fps, 1080 30fps. Since their was speculation/leaks that the system would be Wii U backwards compatible, I find the panic among some premature. It'll have to run at 1080p 30fps/1080p 60fps to properly run Wii U games. Why wouldn't it support new games then at 1080p 60/30fps?
 
Why are people freaking out over including a sensor bar? I dont know if you some you realize this or not but there are Nintendo games that actually play better with motion control.

NO WE MUST ALL SHUT ARE BRAINS OFF AT THE MENTION OF MOTION CONTROLS UNLESS IT'S VR.

Your absolutely right, I argued with some people on GAF recently about Skyward Sword not being possible with traditional controls and got some very frustrating and stubborn replies. Pikmin 3 is also far better with motion controls.
 
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