320 horizontal and 180 vertical. 1920x1080 vs 1600x900. There's a noticeable difference.
1080p also scales better on 4K sets.
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Rumor: GFK Market Research Survey about Nintendo NX leaked
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320 horizontal and 180 vertical. 1920x1080 vs 1600x900. There's a noticeable difference.
1080p also scales better on 4K sets.
Goddamn dude, how many times... there was no video playback! It was photos!!
How did you miss the framerate part? Like seriously, how do you read?
That the obvious has to even written out.
Spyder_Monkey
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Why would a marketing firm put out a survey to developers? This just sounds like speculation and nothing actually concrete.
A handheld absolutely can surpass the Wii U's graphical output quite easily. Many low-power CPU+GPU combinations already do a better job than the Wii U.
What are you babbling about? PS4's come with an HDMI cable.
C.Olimar788
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I'd like for this to be true. Making games shoot for a consistent 900p/60fps would be rad. Frankly any game system that makes 60fps a priority is good in my book.
Tatsumi Oga
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Me and my friends were in a party talking about it, and they got overexcited and that kinda...lifted over to me, lol. I try to keep my expectations low, but thanks to my friends who are incredibly hyped for it...it's not always easy.
I think they send them to end-user research participants, not developers.
Not at 900p, and not with acceptable battery life/heat. In a tablet sized machine it would obviously be different.
Wii U-like graphics at 540p on the other hand are definitely possible, and that's what i hope will happen.
Sensor bar just makes me think B/C, which I expected. I kinda expect this to support B/C the most of any Nintendo console yet.
And that's not even taking into consideration the PS4 in that video is running in 1080p, so all you're really doing is down rezing a high resolution photo.
Deserted Maniac Island
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Oh, right. The DS was pretty successful, so maybe they are channeling that? Did people know what the DS stood for before the reveal?
I wasn't saying thats what the Wii U could do, but nintendo never outright said the specs of the system. And it hard to believe they would limit the resolution, unless it allows console games to work on handheld and vice versa. We have to wait until any official word comes out.
GlamFM
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Absolutely, if this is indeed what that means.
kitchenmotors
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People thinking it will only do 900p on the console are the most gullible posters on GAF. And the freak outs, haha, get a grip.
These threads never surprise me though with those responses.
These threads never surprise me though with those responses.
Smiles and Cries
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good ol Nintendo
just drop the deets you silly squids!
just drop the deets you silly squids!
rokkerkory
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Maybe its really 720p120 guys we dont really know this is a rumor
PuppetMaster
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1080 is 20% more, a 5th more, or 1.2x more than 900p. Not nothing by any sane standard.
If someone was faking it they would have put 1080p. Putting it as 900p is so out of left field that it feels realistic.
Do you still have the box? Because I can't find anything that says that Sony ever excluded an HDMI cable from the PS4 box.
I think the NX will be backward compatible, and may even sell the gamepad separately.
The Wii U sold half what the gcn did, and that means there were a lot of great games that didn't get the chance to sell well. Similar to why Sony is porting so many ps3 games to ps4, there will be a new market of NX owners who never bought a wiiu.
Alternately, they could reprogram some of the games to remove the gamepad modes. Would be easy for games like smash, dkc, etc
All fine, you atleast bothered to read the replies.
The posts in this thread blow my mind. Its a fukcing Twillight Zone episode, where everyone is only capable of reading what they want to read.
What the fuck is this shit? Sony has been including HDMI cables since the first PS3 Slim model and the PS4 absultely comes with one and always has. I can speak for America, at least.
"They" being GfK who most likely knows nothing about the NX and nothing about tech but googled some console stuff and found that 900p is something people talk about.
900p is not a thing. It's an arbitrary design choice/compromise developers sometimes make, not a technical spec for a console. Even if it turns out that Nintendos current first gen NX titles all run at 900p it would be a silly thing to put as bullet point for the console.
The 900p is presumably just a number on a survey and maybe others got different numbers in their surveys to help them understand expectations?
But if it is 900p, does that tell us anything about the handheld? Would we be looking at a WiiU resolution screen?
Sensor bar is interesting - Wii pointer again? And they talk about video chat on tv so maybe the sensor bar will have a camera built in
But if it is 900p, does that tell us anything about the handheld? Would we be looking at a WiiU resolution screen?
Sensor bar is interesting - Wii pointer again? And they talk about video chat on tv so maybe the sensor bar will have a camera built in
feint_ruled
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He's probably thinking of the PS3, which came with an AV cable (I don't think it was HDMI like you say?)
FantasticMrSnake
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My metal gear one in the UK did bring one.
ElectricBlanketFire
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I agree. Metroid Prime 4 being a launch title is very exciting!
The Elite
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900p can be fake as well.
It's good to throw a little bit of controversy in your fake news.
I have no idea about the legitimacy of this though.
gundamkyoukai
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4k video not really a big deal .
It's the 900p that is the problem unless devs can go 1080p even if it mean 30fps.
Still this is coming out 3 years after PS4 it should match it but this is nintendo we talking about .
It's the 900p that is the problem unless devs can go 1080p even if it mean 30fps.
Still this is coming out 3 years after PS4 it should match it but this is nintendo we talking about .
gamerMan
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Most Nintendo games run at 60FPS so I don't think it's a big deal. Even on the Gamecube a lot of Nintendo games were running at 60 FPS.
Even most PS4 games would run at 60FPS if they drop the resolution to 900p. The reason that they don't is saying a game is 1080P is a bigger deal to the average gamer than saying a game is 60FPS. It's more marketable for whatever reason even if your game runs like a slideshow.
dodgykebaab
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If you read the source you'd know it wont do that. it auto adjusts to 4k content, you can't force it.
C.Olimar788
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Incorrect. The PS3 Slim that I got just a year ago did not come with an HDMI cable, to my annoyance. I don't even believe it came with AV cables.
GlamFM
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Not really though.
This has to be one of the most eyebrow raising "leaks" we have had so far.
For starters, no reason for a sensor bar. Even the Wii U regular edition didn't have one because it was already added to the gamepad.
The 900p resolution is also silly, MAYBE it makes sense if its the Handheld output, but for the main console it would be a step back compared to what Wii U can do (Who runs 1080p when needs to).
But at the end of the day it doesn't matter. If they nail a $250 price point with 3 powerful launch titles (3D Mario, Zelda and one niche nintendo franchise) the console is going to sell at least decently.
For starters, no reason for a sensor bar. Even the Wii U regular edition didn't have one because it was already added to the gamepad.
The 900p resolution is also silly, MAYBE it makes sense if its the Handheld output, but for the main console it would be a step back compared to what Wii U can do (Who runs 1080p when needs to).
But at the end of the day it doesn't matter. If they nail a $250 price point with 3 powerful launch titles (3D Mario, Zelda and one niche nintendo franchise) the console is going to sell at least decently.
I'm pretty sure my PS4 included a HDMI cable. I'm from EU for reference.
Nostremitus
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900p for the handheld would be pretty amazing.
900p for the home console would be pretty meh.
Without context regarding which system they were talking about it really doesn't mean anything.
Edit: Just realized it is talking about the console. If true, that's probably the recommended resolution for cross system compatibility.
900p for the home console would be pretty meh.
Without context regarding which system they were talking about it really doesn't mean anything.
Edit: Just realized it is talking about the console. If true, that's probably the recommended resolution for cross system compatibility.
I guess. It's really anyone's bet as to whether this is actually real or not.
My guess is that 900p must have been chosen due to the relationship of the console to the handheld. Lower resolution means less processing power, less battery power. It makes it much easier to hit that 60 fps target, which, if you recall, PS4 struggles with at 1080p and Xb1 usually can't hit even at 900p.
900 p is no big deal really. Still confused by all the Donkey Kong hate. I get that people want a new Metroid from Retro but it's hypocritical to say anyone can make Donkey Kong Country. If they could, Paon or Kozumi would have. Obviously they couldn't. Neither franchise should suffer because of one another.
protomouse
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GfK pls
AFAIK not until the Slim revision. I think mine, bought in 2012, came with one (I'm not very sure).
Bjoern the Smexy
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I actually do have the box and should've looked at it before writing stuff I don't know because it actually did come with an HDMI cable.
Strange, maybe I misremembered something.
I'm not trying to shit on Sony btw.
Did PS3s come with an HDMI cable? I don't know. D:
STILL, my point still stands that Nintendo put an HDMI cable in the Wii U box when they easily could've used their leftover Wii RGB or S-Video cables, but they didn't.
Yay, first post:
Do you guys really think all NX games will be 900p/60fps?
With other words the very first plattform in existence where every game has the exact same resolution and framerate?
You have to be joking.
Samus only unlockable trough Adam Amiibo.
Do you guys really think all NX games will be 900p/60fps?
With other words the very first plattform in existence where every game has the exact same resolution and framerate?
You have to be joking.
Samus only unlockable trough Adam Amiibo.
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