I mean they are already doing this with Minecraft.
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Microsoft announces Xbox Live cross-network (PSN and other networks) play
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I mean they are already doing this with Minecraft.
The days of choosing something because of friends and family are coming to an end, aren't they?
Forerunner
Member
Unification day!
TimeEffect
Member
This is my thought as well.
Sony can easily boast about the bigger online community. Friends can get the PS4 because of other friends. I think sales/community is a good motivation for consumers to buy one console over the other.
It seems like it would benefit MS more, but I really hope this can happen and take off. I really hope cross platform play for the biggest games becomes a reality.
But who is hurting more for this? It's not Sony. It's MS, where some of their markets really need the MP boost.
uncledonnie
Banned
Yeah DQ10 is really the first significant one but even that is niche. When we see a game like CoD, that will really be something.
krizalidzero
Member
Basically begging to get SFV in their console.
Great move, though. Long overdue.
Great move, though. Long overdue.
No i read it
I mean since actually partying up with other platforms requires a huge lift from the dev doing the work themselves...the only game i can see doing this is battlefield since they already did the battlelog work
It says that in the OP.
gundamkyoukai
Member
Good , this is great news for gamers .
Having one big user base is awesome .
Having one big user base is awesome .
Obliterator
Member
Holy shit what?
So that means ps4 players and xbox players will see twisted metal and halo cars vice versa?
rakkadakka
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Aaronrules380
Member
Dragon quest is massive in Japan. It's only niche In the west
Microsoft is the one who will win on this matter while Sony will lose a vital reason for people to buy its consoles if they agree on this.
I'm not saying that I'm against it. Of course it will be wonderful news for everyone but let's not forget that in this generation Sony is the one selling way more consoles than Microsoft, therefore, the majority of future customers will probably choose the PS4 over the Xbox One because their friends will already have PS4s so they will probably want to play with them and that will increase the rate by which Sony dominates this generation of consoles.
If Sony agrees to Xbox-PSN cross network services, they will lose that and to be realistic, from a business standpoint, there is no reason whatsoever for them to allow that to happen. They may still do it to make people happy and build up even more goodwill but their financials will definitely take a hit from it if they decide to go for it.
TL;DR: I'm not sure if Sony will open the doors of PSN, at least not in the short term.
I'm not saying that I'm against it. Of course it will be wonderful news for everyone but let's not forget that in this generation Sony is the one selling way more consoles than Microsoft, therefore, the majority of future customers will probably choose the PS4 over the Xbox One because their friends will already have PS4s so they will probably want to play with them and that will increase the rate by which Sony dominates this generation of consoles.
If Sony agrees to Xbox-PSN cross network services, they will lose that and to be realistic, from a business standpoint, there is no reason whatsoever for them to allow that to happen. They may still do it to make people happy and build up even more goodwill but their financials will definitely take a hit from it if they decide to go for it.
TL;DR: I'm not sure if Sony will open the doors of PSN, at least not in the short term.
Bitch Pudding
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Again, read the actual text. MS is allowing it and CALLING FOR SONY TO AGREE to playing with Live. That's what the Sony posts are about, because right now, it's only going to be PC/ Xbox and PC/ Sony until Sony agree to it.
They are allowing the option, but Sony has to agree first.
Exactly, forgot those titles too.
I guess people are just hungry for Sony PR right now to say "yeah you can play against XB1 guys".
They probably don't mind if the technical implementation isn't crazy hard.
Yup. Will be interesting to see how things develop this year.
Omnistalgic
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Good stuff
Maintenance
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How can they ask for W10 if Rocket League is not an exclusive W10S game?
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Honestly not how i expected the the thread to go. The quick move the console warrior mindset some have really sucks. Its well known that before today Microsoft have been the only ones to actively block this and now they dont and it freaking awesome. You guys can now perhaps get the awesome ffxiv and play with everyone not just xbox players,we can blow each otherup in rocket league. The quick ur move sony,Nintendo posts suck they already allow it(hell maybe xbox can get its first Dq title now in the form of dq10 who knows). Point is this is awesome news for everyone, only big bottleneck now are the developer
That line made me laugh harder than it should have.
Serious question though, can any developers chime in as to how different save files are across platforms? I kind of wonder if the next step could be something along the lines of cross-platform saves.
What? I don't understand what you mean. No?
I'm saying, theoretically, Microsoft has more to gain by allowing cross-console play, and Sony has more to lose (primarily the advantage of people choosing a PS4 and PS4 versions of a game because they have more friends on that system).
Sony and Microsoft gain equally (cross-console play), which means that the relative gain of both is nil, but Sony forfeits more of its platform advantage.
Netherscourge
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I think this is a huge plus for PC gamers, because people who like CoD, Titanfall, BF, etc... on PC don't have as big of a population as the console peeps.
I applaud this. I hope developers jump on board.
But I do wonder how KB/M vs. controller is going to work out... unless they force you to use a controller on the PC? Hope not.
Maybe just different lobbies based on input method?
I applaud this. I hope developers jump on board.
But I do wonder how KB/M vs. controller is going to work out... unless they force you to use a controller on the PC? Hope not.
Maybe just different lobbies based on input method?
CrimsonEclipse
Member
It's certainly is awesome news, not gonna downplay that. However, I just don't get all the Sony mentions, don't want to turn this into a console war thread.
FriedConsole
Banned
Cross play is useless unless you can find a friend on another network. I guess it will populate more games? Mostly useless then.
El_Fenomeno
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Bring on FFXIV!!!
serenewarfare
Banned
Imagine if this could allow cross-console play with Destiny. I know it won't, but IMAGINE.
ethomaz
Banned
Sony already allow cross-play lol
We are playing against PC users in a lot of games since day 1.
Rocket League was closed only on Xbone... now they will join the party with PS4/PC users.
Khrysler Jerikho
Member
This is like the Colossal Titan breaking the wall.
Straight out of apples playbook. It wasn't invented until they did it.
Collateral22
Member
Simple, force cross play to be W10 only meaning you would need a W10 version.
Yeah, what's in it for Sony? I don't see them agreeing to this.
Revolutionary
How?
"and Xbox Live players will always have the option of choosing to play only with other Xbox Live players. "
Holy fuck. I know that. I'm talking about PS4/Xbox cross play, which they don't yet, hence the text of the blog post in the OP which explicitly ends with MS asking Sony to agree to it.
This is what people are asking for when they are asking for Sony to agree.
Huh? Sony won't lose anything. They are already leading the race and nothing at this point will change that. People will buy a PS4 if they want a ps4. This is good news for everyone. MS, Sony nor PC players lose out on anything, but this might help insure mp games last longer and the playerbase will be much bigger and not segmented.
Everyone wins really.
TimeEffect
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That's the only option. Use a controller, or use a KBM and play with other PC players.
I'm curious if that's enforceable though. I imagine it would be easy to get around that, right? In which case I'd very much avoid playing against PC players.
AFAIK, FF14 didn't come to XB1 because of other issues besides cross-platform play, namely Microsoft wanting a cut from monthly MMO fees