entremet
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This will still work with PS4 games.
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Kotaku: Sony is working on a PS4.5; briefing devs on plans for a more powerful PS4
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This will still work with PS4 games.
Movalpolos
Banned
Selective reading on your part and a some persecution complex too apparently.
And this "console upgrades will happen" news isn't new. Before the PS3/360 came out I remember reading on IGN about those systems potentially being able to have add-ons and such to upgrade without getting a brand new console. It was around E3 I think the year the PS3's pricing was announced if I remember right. I remember someone in Sony specifically saying the PS3 will do that in it's years but it just never happened.
The only difference is that instead of it happening last gen it appears it's happening this yet. I just wonder if we'll have to get brand new consoles or just "add-ons". I wouldn't mind an add-on.
The only difference is that instead of it happening last gen it appears it's happening this yet. I just wonder if we'll have to get brand new consoles or just "add-ons". I wouldn't mind an add-on.
Maintenance
Member
I ain't getting yearly PS4s just for Sony games. They are crazy to think many people would do the same, like MS is being crazy too.
This isn't a phone.
Or even look at Scoops history of reporting. He was the one that broke the Xbox One fiasco after all.
Sidewinder
Member
These will all be gone by then.
"Nintendo: Make consoles great again" will be the subtitle to the NX, mmw!!1
I have no problem with faster iterations of consoles, zero problem.
That said, I need a guarantee that the OS Sony uses will be the same in the future, IOS style. Backwards compatibility needs to be the focus.
In this camp I trust Microsoft more with their Windows 10 platform than I do Sony's.
Also, I hope devs take in mind more than the latest console when designing their games.
That said, I need a guarantee that the OS Sony uses will be the same in the future, IOS style. Backwards compatibility needs to be the focus.
In this camp I trust Microsoft more with their Windows 10 platform than I do Sony's.
Also, I hope devs take in mind more than the latest console when designing their games.
Which they probably doing after seeing MS propose it, but Sony called the devs' bluff, said no, stole all the momentum, and things played out as they have.
Doesn't mean that it didn't happen.
FinalStageBoss
Banned
Imagine the price on a console that's going to run games at 4k. What's it gonna be 1000 bucks? lol Kotaku
I'd be okay if the console future was like:
-A new $400 console comes out every 3 years
-Trade in the last console to get the new one 50% off
Is that reasonable? Maybe 25% off? There has to be some kind of incentive here, video game consoles are not cell phones. You can't just crank out a new one every three years and expect people to drop $400 on it.
-A new $400 console comes out every 3 years
-Trade in the last console to get the new one 50% off
Is that reasonable? Maybe 25% off? There has to be some kind of incentive here, video game consoles are not cell phones. You can't just crank out a new one every three years and expect people to drop $400 on it.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
The difference between PS4.5 and PS5 is that you wouldn't be able to play the PS5 games on PS4. Here's you'll be able to play the same exact game on both only it will look/perform better on 4.5. Devs know what they're talking about.
Croatoan
They/Them A-10 Warthog
Microsoft is about to do this too, and Nintendo already does it. So what? Are you done with gaming, or are you running to PC (which is massively hypocritical)?
Incremental walled garden will still be better than full on PC for those technology phobic peoples (evils drivers are tricksies I tell you, TRICKSIES!).
Given it would likely be on x86 the difference in PS4.5 and PS5 is .5 PSs.
David Ricardo
Member
This makes no sense. Why would they do this?
I understand Microsoft and Nintendo have to try some risky moves to get back on track, but Sony is winning.
The market is with Sony. All they had to do is keep doing what they are doing, wait for Nintendo and Microsoft to release their hardware succesors, and in 2018 or 2019 release a backwards compatible PS5 that blows their competitors offerings out of the water.
It looks so easy from outside...
I understand Microsoft and Nintendo have to try some risky moves to get back on track, but Sony is winning.
The market is with Sony. All they had to do is keep doing what they are doing, wait for Nintendo and Microsoft to release their hardware succesors, and in 2018 or 2019 release a backwards compatible PS5 that blows their competitors offerings out of the water.
It looks so easy from outside...
Pixels does not equal resolution. It's twice the resolution, but 4x the pixels.
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Deleted member 47027
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What does this mean for people with a Sony console without internet though?
ethomaz
Banned
Makes sense to be the PS5.
It is already time to start to work in the new generation machine.
And I guess now every game for PS4 will run natively on PS5 if they keep the same arch x86.
What? There are a ton of us in this thread that don't like the idea of this.
Ignorance on the part of whoever was speculating.
Cow Goes Moo
Member
well yeah when you live in a world where phone upgrades are almost yearly which are in these days more of a necessity than a commodity in the "connected world"
it would kind of make sense for other technologies to "adapt" similar models
it just makes a lot of sense in hindsight, technological advances just keep pushing on
Koutsoubas
Member
I can see that being true. They probably changed their minds after the Microsoft fiasco
Psychological Intellect
Banned
IN
TheRealTalker
Banned
please don't
well as long as it doesn't bar some games from the older userbase
I got my PC for high end gaming if I need it
well as long as it doesn't bar some games from the older userbase
I got my PC for high end gaming if I need it
Bl@de
Member
When I say cut the gen short, I mean that relative to last gen which was 7-8 years long.
Going by this news, their next console will be probably launch around late 2017 or 2018, which is a return to the old console upgrade cycle.
Now, if they released PS4.5 this year or next, then that's some stunning bullshit.
PsihoPerihelion
Member
The GPU on the PS4 is just fine. The CPU is the one that needs a seriously dramatic upgrade.
no... instead of doing PS3 to PS4 type of new console where you lose EVERYTHING you had with PS3 in order to move to new platform with limited number of launch titles, Sony (and MS?) are planning to make essentially a PS5 that will be 100% compatible with PS4.
This is great for everyone involved - for people sticking to PS4, they can keep playing all latest games, and for people buying PS5 they can keep their library of older titles as well. This is particularly awesome for developers.
I dont see any downside to this at all.
Neither am I. I'll be sticking with Xbox One and PS4 for a few years and still get all the games anyway until I am ready to upgrade. See how that works?
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
This generation continues to baffle me.
Enter the Dragon Punch
Banned
As long as you're only expecting minimal power upgrades at $400, sure.
And the only discount you'll get is trading it in at a GameStop. Sony wouldn't be interested in losing money for the purpose of trading up.
Mihos
Gold Member
If they are adding stuff like 4k Blueray, better WiFi, HDMI passthrough, and built in VR support (instead of the breakout box) and not really messing with the game engine stuff, I don't see much of a problem.
Add a Vita slot and make a premium version that plays PS3 disks, and I will give you a wheelbarrow full of money.
Add a Vita slot and make a premium version that plays PS3 disks, and I will give you a wheelbarrow full of money.
Yeah, it is in Sony's best interest to keep this generation going. And if Microsoft is trying to soft reboot the generation then releasing something like a PS4.5 would be a good counter.
Pretty much my thinking. I really don't know how anyone would want some things of PC gaming without all of the good parts.
I'm a little late to the thread... but I'm seeing plenty of complaints.
Personally I'm all for it. This gen's hardware is pathetic, and I don't want to be stuck with it as long as last gen.
SolidSnakex
Member
After the smoke started clearing out everything started pointing toward the DRM being an initiative that MS were pushing on their own rather than something third party publishers were interested in.
amstradcpc
Member
They want (if true) to call it PS4.5 because both will run the same games.
jfoul
Member
Mainly because Sony was transitioning for the first time to a PC architecture X86/64. Sony (&MS) will now be on the same architecture going forward, upgrading the hardware components over time. All software works on all hardware revisions, and the user-base will no longer reset with new a console. Console generations will be over and consumers will be given more choice.
TylerDurden4321
Member
If the rumors about nVidia's new pascal architecture and it's ridiculous processing advantage over current 9xx cards are true, I could see a 4K box on par in graphic settings with 1080p PS4 games - just running at a higher resolution - being true and not costing more than 450-500 bucks, but to be of the same architecture as the PS4 and not making development much more complicated, they would have to stick to an APU-design (not CPU+GPU in two chips) coming from AMD and we haven't heard of new AMD architectures.
" PS 4.5 " doesn't surprise me at all after Phil Spencer on Xbox upgrading, but 4K? There is something off here. Patrick Klepek has good sources though... and so does Totillo. We'll see.
" PS 4.5 " doesn't surprise me at all after Phil Spencer on Xbox upgrading, but 4K? There is something off here. Patrick Klepek has good sources though... and so does Totillo. We'll see.