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Digital Foundry hands-on Quantum Break (XB1)
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digoutyoursoul
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I'm pointing out the bullshit that's what I'm doing. People portray resolution more than what it is when it suits them. That's bullshit What compelled you to say the Order is king anyway? It's a terrible game in my opinion. King of what?
This game looks to be doing some crazy stuff. It may not be the GPU that is throttling the frame rate.
On the subject of relevance and consistency:
Explain this post on the first page?
Enter the Dragon Punch
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Console graphics in released games. Easily.
Zombie James
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720p/30fps... with dips and tearing. Unbelievable. I guess that explains why it looks like it's punching above it's weight.
plagiarize
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All I'm saying is that we couldn't come to a consensus on what to call such games. If you buy a 1080p 21:9 monitor, it's horizontal resolution is 2560. The P stands for progressive and the number is the number of lines. So technically the P doesn't define the horizontal resolution *at all*.
Again, technically. I think most people accept that when we say 1080p we're talking about a 16:9 resolution.
I think the real solution is just to write out the actual resolution. Especially now that we have people using 1080p and 4K back and forth, when one defines the vertical resolution and one the horizontal. Again, a 21:9 4K monitor will have less pixels than a 16:9 4K monitor, but a 21:9 1080p monitor has MORE pixels than a 16:9 1080p monitor.
It's a mess.
digoutyoursoul
Member
Really? Im more impressed with Ryse and Uncharted 4 single player
I still dont understand how they are doing all those geometry manipulations. Its sick!
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I dont how anyone can compare graphics in The Order to this game when technology in both differ so much.
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I dont how anyone can compare graphics in The Order to this game when technology in both differ so much.
Forza and driveclub too.
Console graphics. I thought previously, assuming the game would run at 1080p as Remedy had stated, the Quantum Break had surpassed it. But at 720p it isn't a fair comparison.
I'm not saying Quantum Break doesn't look nice.
Yeah but come on. The Order doesn't have all the crazy shit that QB is doing.
900p = 1600x900
The Order runs at 1920x800
Nearly the same number of pixels, but The Order isn't 900p.
It might not have crazy time altering effects, but it's still one of the best looking games on console. I haven't seen anything from QB that eclipses The Order. That said, QB will almost assuredly be a much better game.
Backfoggen
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The only way to describe how The Order is rendered is "it's rendered at 1920x800". Yelling "1080p!" or "not 1080p!" are both inadequate descriptions.
SW looks incredible on PS4, better IQ than some 1080P games.
WD was pretty average, even if it was 1080P it wouldn't make it an impressive looking game, GTA5 on next gen looks better.
I believe QB will easily be the best looking game on XB1, so who cares?
All the people here that say they won't buy it now, would you rather them downgrade the visuals so it can be 1080P or 900P? If the game is still the prettiest on your system than who cares about the numbers?
digoutyoursoul
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Drive Club weather effects in particular, really good imho. Evolution did a great job with that.
I agree, some however would say image clarity is also important, theres degrees of subjectivity which are understandable.
I could see Quantum Break becoming the quintessential answer to the importance of resolution.
LostDonkey
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I don't agree with The Order being 1080p despite all the spin to say it is.
Game renders at 1920x800, black bars are not being rendered as black bars, they just aren't rendering anything to save GPU cycles. it would be insane to render black bars ON PURPOSE. Nobody would do that.
The comparison with movies also doesn't stick with me. A GPU is rendering the image frame by frame using resources, a Blu Ray player is just streaming data. It doesn't need to conserve cycles for effects etc.
Game renders at 1920x800, black bars are not being rendered as black bars, they just aren't rendering anything to save GPU cycles. it would be insane to render black bars ON PURPOSE. Nobody would do that.
The comparison with movies also doesn't stick with me. A GPU is rendering the image frame by frame using resources, a Blu Ray player is just streaming data. It doesn't need to conserve cycles for effects etc.
xabbott
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When people say they don't want a 720p picture isn't it actually about not wanting a jaggie/muddy picture?
According to the second DF video the anti aliasing used seems to deal with most of the negative aspects of a lower resolution. People seem to be ignoring that becuase resolution is easier to understand.
According to the second DF video the anti aliasing used seems to deal with most of the negative aspects of a lower resolution. People seem to be ignoring that becuase resolution is easier to understand.
ViewtifulJC
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Can't wait for Xbone 1.5 upgrade
digoutyoursoul
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But here's the thing, you have had people on this forum, especially at the start of this gen, constantly going on about 1080p or no buy or the whole assassins creed no parity farce we had. My point is, why make such a big deal out of it when come launch they bought the game anyway? That's what I find bullshit. I blame some of these so called "insiders" for stirring this shit for their own attention seeking needs too.
azertydu91
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Just like QB doesn't handle a lot of thing The Order does simply because they're different games.
I still think that The Order has a better IQ bgut it's a totally different era so we don't really have any comparison point.I just love the light in The Order and it's subsurface scattering.
The comparison is even more stupid when QB isn't even out it may be a bit more interesting once the game is out.
I thought they looked really soft, but I didn't know if that was just the video compression or some other factor. The more disappointing thing is the frame rate and screen tearing present in open areas with a 720p res. That's unacceptable in 2016.
RealityCheque
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It is. And dont call me Shirley.
Aliasing is one of the issues, but the game does look blurry and it always has. Now we know why. Will it prevent me from enjoying the game? Hell no.
ViewtifulJC
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This also explains why the PC specs are so high. Shit only runs at 720p on Xbone fam
DOWN
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Except that leaves room for interpretation and can sound like it is being upscaled. It's 1920x800 at native scaling 21:9 ratio. So its as sharp as it would be at 1080, but is intentionally a different ratio.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Do you at least agree it has exactly the same pixel density as any 1080p game ?
Because that's what is important pixel density.
You can either like/hate or absolutely do not care about the black bars but the pixel density is that of a 1080p game.
plagiarize
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Yeah. Exactly. I think everyone can agree if people just write out the whole resolution.
OdysseusVA
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720p with dips? That is something.
Too hard. We need to be able to fit it into a 900p or 1080p box, depending on which side of the trenches you're in.
plagiarize
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Only focusing on the negatives? That is something.
I'd forgotten what DF threads are like when there's an exclusive being talked about.
Everyone who has fully read the article is still unclear about that. Hopefully Remedy will respond. But whatever the answer to that, even if only specific effects are at 720p they're destroying the detail of the final image to the point where pixel counting adds up to 720p.
LostDonkey
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No I don't. It's 1920x800. That is what is being rendered by the GPU. Not Filmed and then converted into an aspect ratio. The aspect ratio in the order comes because the render is 1920x800.
It isn't being rendered in 1920x1080 and then converted into 1920x800, that would just be stupid.
1080p is a 16:9 aspect ratio. 1920x1080.
maquiladora
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720p in 2016? Yikes.... Thank God it's coming to PC.
Yup, can't wait to see the PC version, going to look mind blowing (not on my PC though
)This, it could be Remedy's fault and a bloated engine, but it could just in general be a very taxing game.
It's letterboxed 1080p. Resident Evil 4 did this 2 gens ago. It's not that complicated. Hell, there were a huge amount of 720p games last gen that rendered at 720p with black borders of various sizes around the whole screen. We didn't have a debate that they weren't 720p then. If a game isn't being scaled then it is 1080p/720p/480p native whether they fill the entire frame buffer or not.
The power of DX-12 ladies and gentlemen