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Rumor: Xbox Streamer ($99), Xbox TV ($150-$175), Xbox Mini, & Xbox 2017 coming, more
- Thread starter dancrane212
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Ricky Ricardo
Member
It is highly unlikely that MSFT are going to announce the Xbox 2 this year. IMO.
Man... I'm going to be disappointed if the two rumoured devices for E3 really ends up being Xbox TV and Xbox TV 1.5. I was hoping for Xbox One slim.
That "TV box" could very well be the redesigned Xbox One
TharpDaddy
Member
X2 is being announced next year. That could mean a release date in 2018.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Yup the more I think about it..it just makes no sense
I don't know why people are so shocked at the 10tflop number. The next step for console gaming is going to be 4K. Running next gen games consistently in 4K30-60fps will absolutely require something in the neighborhood of 10tlfops. Possibly even more.
A new console by the end of 2017 with a 10tflop gpu going for about 400-500$ sounds about right.
A new console by the end of 2017 with a 10tflop gpu going for about 400-500$ sounds about right.
Tntnico
Member
It would be the case if the Xbox ecosystem stays the way it is today, but we know that UWA are coming this summer on Xbox, so Xbox devices will have way more apps to run, even in Europe.
Yeah
If they are doing anything, it will be xbox one slim out this fall, and xbox two out in fall 2017.
justsomeguy
Member
I think so. Cord cutters are a growing demographic. Got my parents a Kindle Fire Stick the other day and loved it. Now give me one of those which runs all my Windows 10 apps *and* lets me stream my XBox and PC - including the upcoming DVR functionality - and I'm very interested.
2 boxes within 1 year seems like overkill for sure
From holiday to spring is not a year. 6 or 7 months most likely.
Chobel
Member
UWP is not the answer to BC. Most XB1 games are not UWP games.
They are splitting their focus so that a wider range of consumers can be satisfied. I don't see that as the same mistake as they made with phones.
Zombie James
Banned
PS4K in October and Xbone 1.5 in spring could be really interesting. The extra months could allow MS do something extra with the hardware and take the lead. Or Sony could delay? Ooh, I love E3.
Doug Heffernan
Member
Waiting til next year to reveal Xbox 1.5 makes sense. It benefits them to wait for Sony to reveal their hand first so they don't have another launch disaster.
Frustrated_me
Member
What took so long for Microsoft to get XBOX into every PC? Why allow Steam to eat your lunch?
I still *think* he is wrong. Here is my interpretation on everything that was rumored and found (FCC and Anatel stuff):
- the Nano stick thing is probably true
- the Lunchbox sized device IS in fact the Xbox One Slim with full gaming capability
- He confused the Xbox 1.5 with this Xbox One Slim
So 2 new devices this year and the big upgrade next year.
- the Nano stick thing is probably true
- the Lunchbox sized device IS in fact the Xbox One Slim with full gaming capability
- He confused the Xbox 1.5 with this Xbox One Slim
So 2 new devices this year and the big upgrade next year.
Chobel
Member
In the Spring you'll have reveal, not launch.
justsomeguy
Member
I keep hearing this, but MS were the first to talk about upgrading/updating this gen of consoles.
Correct, a UWP 360/Bone OS/runtime emulator would be though.
I'm aware but they have a win32>UWP converter though, maybe they can convert XB1 games to UWP aswell? Dunno just speculating here, they will have something to deal with BC eitherway.
Here is the article :
https://translate.google.com/transl...iochi-insider-conferma-esistenza-di-xbox-next
Original source is Xrays blog. Same bullshit as MisterXmedia
What drugs are you on? Because I want some.
No need to worry about that, because it isn't happening.
Ah right, Windows 10 apps, because everyone is just foaming at the mouth for those on the big screen.
Sounds like solving a problem that doesn't really exist.
This makes more sense.
dancrane212
Member
OK listening to the archive with headphones. Will update as I go.
1. "Xbox Mini is Real"
2. Chromecast "Super-Streamer" Xbox. (~$99)
3. Second Xbox streaming device: a bit bigger "not an Xbox One crammed into a tiny box". This is more of a replacement for those who would buy 360 as a media box in 2015. He thinks this device will leverage the Windows Store to play "lightweight" games (~$150 -> ~$175)
4. Details get fuzzy at this point for Brad. Does not think MS will go for 4K gaming yet. Thinks the next system will be more of an iterative step.
5. Xbox becoming a platform. MS playing around with bringing the Xbox interface to PC (Redstone 2 related). Think Media Center for games. Speculation: "think further down the road - what if Xbox becomes software?"
6. Microsoft focused on "extensible" systems. It's the "magic" word in Microsoft right now.
7. Brad thinks MS will do something "Big" for the next Xbox in 2017. Thinks the Eurogamer article is "onto something" but thinks they have their wires crossed in some respects. MS doing "crazy" stuff. VR may play a part.
8. MS knows gaming is the "bread-and-butter" for Xbox and will show that at E3 but still want to "attack the living-room" and appeal to cord-cutters. Xbox One is currently too expensive/big for that audience.
9. Updated controller that will look mostly the same. Minor revision.
10. PC gaming big for Microsoft and E3 will reflect that. Look to see MS continue to try and bring Xbox and PC together.
11. Thinks we could see a revision/upgrade (minor) to the current Xbox One but is fuzzy on that.
1. "Xbox Mini is Real"
2. Chromecast "Super-Streamer" Xbox. (~$99)
3. Second Xbox streaming device: a bit bigger "not an Xbox One crammed into a tiny box". This is more of a replacement for those who would buy 360 as a media box in 2015. He thinks this device will leverage the Windows Store to play "lightweight" games (~$150 -> ~$175)
4. Details get fuzzy at this point for Brad. Does not think MS will go for 4K gaming yet. Thinks the next system will be more of an iterative step.
5. Xbox becoming a platform. MS playing around with bringing the Xbox interface to PC (Redstone 2 related). Think Media Center for games. Speculation: "think further down the road - what if Xbox becomes software?"
6. Microsoft focused on "extensible" systems. It's the "magic" word in Microsoft right now.
7. Brad thinks MS will do something "Big" for the next Xbox in 2017. Thinks the Eurogamer article is "onto something" but thinks they have their wires crossed in some respects. MS doing "crazy" stuff. VR may play a part.
8. MS knows gaming is the "bread-and-butter" for Xbox and will show that at E3 but still want to "attack the living-room" and appeal to cord-cutters. Xbox One is currently too expensive/big for that audience.
9. Updated controller that will look mostly the same. Minor revision.
10. PC gaming big for Microsoft and E3 will reflect that. Look to see MS continue to try and bring Xbox and PC together.
11. Thinks we could see a revision/upgrade (minor) to the current Xbox One but is fuzzy on that.
This honestly makes more sense. It's a bit too soon for an actual Xbox 2.
In Service
Member
Can I stream my XBO to my TV upstairs with this theoretical XB Stick? If so, I will buy it as it has an USP.
If not, why would I replace my Sky (Cable) / Apple TV combo in the bedroom?
LukasTaves
Member
They are not with their pants down, earlier this year it has leaked that the Redstone update 2 for win10 (which apparently would be big on cross devices features) got delayed to next year and that all Ms devices would be delayed as well to launch together.
Thought it seems they are still releasing some sort of upgraded hardware this year, even if it's not a big jump.
The Italian MisterXMedia. This is the Google translated source:
http://xrays-insider.blogspot.de/2016/05/insider-report-il-fallimento.html
It's bollocks, we've had a number of threads which rightfully got closed. As I said in the other thread, that he even mentioned it in the stream speaks for itself, at least when it comes to Xbox plans beyond this E3.
Brad's explanation of the device didn't make it sound like it is going to be a redesigned XBO, though. It sounded more app centric to me.
I hope you are right.
Ricky Ricardo
Member
This sounds more plausible TBH
SEGAvangelist
Member
But could the 360 emulator be a UWP?
YuriLowell
Member
I really hope Microsoft has some big games for this E3.
If they don't no one is going to care about these other boxes.
If they don't no one is going to care about these other boxes.
Yup. This is way more likely.
"Microsoft own PC Gaming"
"Microsoft with bring the two communities [Xbox + PC] together"
I always find this weird when people say it. PC gaming and its communities work because of the open nature of it, the competition from multiple stores / hardware / communities etc, so the only way to really bring all of them together would be to actually have them all accessible together.
I really doubt Microsoft would suddenly open up the Xbox to such communities / platforms unless they stood to gain financially rather than lose out to all that competition over their own store.
"Microsoft with bring the two communities [Xbox + PC] together"
I always find this weird when people say it. PC gaming and its communities work because of the open nature of it, the competition from multiple stores / hardware / communities etc, so the only way to really bring all of them together would be to actually have them all accessible together.
I really doubt Microsoft would suddenly open up the Xbox to such communities / platforms unless they stood to gain financially rather than lose out to all that competition over their own store.
justsomeguy
Member
Well since it is rumoured to run Win 10 apps (what else would it run, I guess), and XBox App is a Win 10 app, and Xbox App lets you stream your XBO... then yeah why wouldn't it? (which implies it has the controller connectivity chips built in I guess - edit: or a usb port for a dongle, like PCs use).
I always find it strange when consumers don't like/can't fathom being offered more choices from a company.
How is it overkill there are so many people who want different things from their devices?
If true...in pretty interested where Microsoft goes for vr. Their own (which I doubt since they're doing ar) or team with oculus.
Either way...I love shiny new hardware. Don't need 6 years to feel like I got the most out of my console. Wow me every few years and I'm happy.
How is it overkill there are so many people who want different things from their devices?
If true...in pretty interested where Microsoft goes for vr. Their own (which I doubt since they're doing ar) or team with oculus.
Either way...I love shiny new hardware. Don't need 6 years to feel like I got the most out of my console. Wow me every few years and I'm happy.
Agreed.
Why is it - it was working fine for PS4 this generation...
Anyway on subject - can't wait for E3 to see if these rumours are true - but personally not a fan of these iteration updates... but we shall see what they say.