Ps4 is not a 360 clone...PS4 has World wide appeal, it really is just sony getting back to not what playstation always has been.
True. A better way of thing to call it would be a PS2 clone, with some inspiration from the 360.
Ps4 is not a 360 clone...PS4 has World wide appeal, it really is just sony getting back to not what playstation always has been.
OS upgrades have never played a huge role in OS market share on PCs. The new OS is usually sold with a new PC.
Regardless, a graphically intensive video game is not targeted at all PC users --- it's made for gamers. The adoption of Windows 10 among gamers is far beyond what the global adoption rate might suggest. It has recently passed Windows 7 on Steam: http://venturebeat.com/2016/06/01/windows-10-adoption-passes-windows-7-on-steam/. ~40% of Steam users is nothing to scoff at.
It's not like they're going to stop selling the more budget-friendly Xbox One Slim. They can target the low end and the high end market at the same time, and the upper limit of what the high end will spend is blurry. It's what Apple has been doing for years with great success.I honestly don't think that the Scorpio will do much better than the XBO, specially if it launches at a higher cost than the PS4K and with those rumored specs its looking pretty likely that it will end up being the most expensive "new" box out of the two.
First-party studios isnt doing so well. Halo 5 is a big miss, versus projections. Minecraft is a big miss, versus projections. Compared to either one of those, Lionhead is practically a rounding error. But I think if your division is under-performing, you have to go to your boss with something on the altar.
It's exactly that. People are missing the context and jumping straight on Minecraft underperforming overall when it's about underperforming on a single platform.
Minecraft is doing crazy numbers, just not on the Windows store.
That wasn't the context of the minecraft quote
this is
I would say that is an overall projection since it refers to axing studios and mentions Halo 5 which isn't even on the store.
It's not like they're going to stop selling the more budget-friendly Xbox One Slim. They can target the low end and the high end market at the same time, and the upper limit of what the high end will spend is blurry. It's what Apple has been doing for years with great success.
If this continues, how long until Phil loses his job?
If this continues, how long until Phil loses his job?
If this continues, how long until Phil loses his job?
Im surprised hearing this about Minecraft, isnt this selling like bonkers?
Not surprised about Halo 5...
There's no way MS will release Scorpio at more than PS4k.
I'm just talking about price, which for the low end market is really all that matters. By the time Scorpio launches, I fully expect the Xbox One Slim to be $249, which makes it more safe for them to make the Scorpio more expensive.The Slim will be going head-to-head with the existing PS4 which has already proven the less desirable of the two.
That comes after the first mention of Minecraft which is the quote I picked out where the interviewee is summing up the points he's already made, so the Windows 10 store context is still inferred.
If this continues, how long until Phil loses his job?
Your totally right. I think it's pretty ironic that that they let go of bungie cause they wanted to make destiny which is a game as a service game.Honestly, given what's selling today, I don't think he was really wrong.
The main miss he made is that on consoles, you sell a $60 game, and then you flood people with endless DLC and/or microtransactions along with new content for years.
There's no way MS will release Scorpio at more than PS4k.
I'm just talking about price, which for the low end market is really all that matters. By the time Scorpio launches, I fully expect the Xbox One Slim to be $249, which makes it more safe for them to make the Scorpio more expensive.
Winning over the fans is not enough. That's Spencer's shortcoming. He's trying to cater to the hardcore Xbox fans and not the general audience. He doesn't really have much of a vision other than to turn the Xbox One into a PS4 clone which was in turn a 360 clone.
Then there's no way it will be as powerful as the rumors say.
What caused Halo 5 to be a big miss? MCC? Halo 4?
MAU is better though. All hail the MAU
$299/$449-499 is my wild guess. Base PS4 has historically been $50 more expensive than base XB1. Since the PS4k will be the only new console on the market for a time, they can charge a little more.And what do you think ps4/ps4k will be then?
This generation is a repeat of the PS2/GameCube/Xbox generation. Sony far and away the dominant force whilst Microsoft and Nintendo are merely an acquired taste.
If this continues, how long until Phil loses his job?
PS1/N64/Saturn is more accurate.
Then there's no way it will be as powerful as the rumors say.
Where's the rumor here? More like SHOCKING NEWS, we know for a fact that all of them (except for Minecraft) hugely underperformed.
I even remember that sometimes before W10 launch MS publicly said they wanted it to be installed on 1 billion devices within two years: there's a reason why they're sticking W10 down everyone's throat without users' consent for months now, lol.
this just sounds like poor projecting...
less & less people are operating in a desktop PC environment [or laptop PC environment], tablets & iphones have created a whole generation of computer-less people [take my wife, and many of my friends as examples].
you really need to take this shit into consideration when making these projections MS...
edit: i realize my example is anecdotal, obviously, but aren't we always hearing about / reading about the decline of computer sales etc.?
No, the sales split was way bigger back then.
If this continues, how long until Phil loses his job?
I can't imagine the mental gymnastics required to look at Minecraft and say it underperformed. They recently announced they've sold over one hundred million copies.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-06-02-minecraft-sales-pass-the-astonishing-100m-milestone
Yes there is. By the sounds of things both boxes contain a very similar gpu. The difference could be sony's is under clocked to keep the heat down. If Microsoft continue with an external brick and a bigger box than sony they can very easily be competitively priced.Then there's no way it will be as powerful as the rumors say.
Slow down there... Phil Spencer is reason why PS4 only leads 2:1 and not 10:1
He has really done a great job. He came aboard a sinking ship and managed to make it seaworthy again.
Halo 5 was a combination of Halo 4, MCC, and Halo 5 being the weakest game in the series. Halo is my all time favorite franchise and I'm currently weeping for its future. If we are talking about executives that need to be placed on the chopping block let's start looking at whoever is making the creative/art/story/gameplay decisions over at 343.
Lol at people thinking Scorpio will turn things around...
Lets not get carried away, all he did was the only option they had, reverse course and re-focus on games, you know what every game console platform holder has ever done....
Lol at people thinking Scorpio will turn things around...
Most likely. I doubt Mine raft is underperforming unless they were being crazy with their projections.So, is it the Wins10 version of Minecraft?
I mean it could make things better for them. they have too many things against them a technically sound console is a good bonus to the turn around phil has been pulling.
If this course of action was so obviuous why didn't Mattrick do it. I don't think anyone knew exactly what phil was going to do. He's done a good job on being creative an innovate with is ideas beyond the status quo that your saying he's following and he should be commended if we're being fair.
You've luckily avoid the NEO/Scorpio thread then! Plenty of crazy talk (from both camps) in there.Being the best performing console for multiplatforms is certainly a start. I haven't seen anyone saying it'd be a game changer, but it certainly will help.