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[Jonneh3003]

With:
Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE
Star Ocean Integrity and Faithlessness
World of Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy 7 Remake
Kingdom Hearts 3
I am Setsuna
Ni No Kuni 2
Persona 5
Dragon Quest 11
Ys 8
..and over a dozen more it’s easy to feel that Final Fantasy 15's hype has been diminished. I've been following this game since it was revealed as Final Fantasy Verses 13. The reveal as FF15 made it one of my most anticipated games...but now I feel like I'm losing interest.

The Uncovered event shed a lot of light on this game but I feel a little underwhelmed with what I've personally experienced when compared to other RPGs like Tokyo Mirage Sessions. For one, I'm still a little uncertain on the combat. In both Episode Duscae and the Platinum demo there's certainly a lack of polish, though that’s to be expected from such early demonstrations. I feel as if other RPGs are overshadowing FFXV, even World of Final Fantasy seems to be a more polished product.

I really do hope Final Fantasy XV defies all expectations when it releases but for now I have way more hope in Ni No Kuni 2 and Persona 5, I almost feel as if it doesn't matter if FFXV isn't great as there are so many alternatives.

 

[super-famicom]

No, the extremely long development time and changes its had since it was Versus XIII harmed FF XV.

 

[Calm Mind]

FFXV is a JRPG?

 

[Enter the Dragon Punch]

No. Two poor publically available demos, 10 years of development delays and awful E3 showings have harmed it.

 

[Garrett Hawke]

I don't know if I'd say overload. I can't really think of any AAA JRPG on PS4.

 

[Lord of Ostia]

Any lack of hype for Final Fantasy XV is entirely due to the game itself and not its competition. Going by fanbase and amount of marketing alone, FFXV should be the most hyped out of all those games, and if in your opinion it isn't, then the problem lies with FFXV. That said, FFXV will sell better than all those games you listed.

 

[Jonneh3003]

No. Two poor publically available demos, 10 years of development delays and awful E3 showings have harmed it.

Oh jeez I forgot about the Microsoft showcase.

 

[Icanplaythat]

FFXV is a JRPG?

Dropping truth bombs!

 

[Dangansona]

Putting aside the majority of the PR for the game has been dissapointing and I believe the game will be good in the end, if anything more JRPGs is good for FFXV because that takes pressure off it to "save the genre."

 

[True Fire]

Most of the high profile JRPGs released in 2015/2016 were terrible, so if anything they will make XV look better in comparison.

 

[Taruranto]

FF will always be a hit with casuals, tons of people don't paly jRPG but play FF.

 

[KingBroly]

Oh jeez I forgot about the Microsoft showcase.

Sony's showcase of it wasn't great either.

 

[Dangansona]

Sony's showcase of it wasn't great either.

I don't really get this because I thought the trailer looked good and I don't see how the VR experience should in any way impact opinions of FFXV. It's clearly just a side thing set in that world that was probably developed my an experimental team within Square.

 

[KuwabaraTheMan]

I feel like it's not so much that there are so many other JRPGs coming out, but that they're more interesting looking towards the main part of the base. Final Fantasy XV is an action game, so it isn't a surprise that more traditional RPGs with more traditional combat systems would overshadow it in discussions.

But I think this would have happened regardless of how many other JRPGs were coming out. The game just isn't as appealing to some people. It's just that the large number of other ones coming out shifts the discussion from "Final Fantasy XV looks bad, are JRPGs dead?" to "Final Fantasy XV looks bad, but thank goodness we have Trails of Cold Steel II, SMT IV Apocalypse and Dragon Quest VII coming out around the same time, with Persona 5 and Nier Automota early next year".

 

[Mcdohl]

No, the extremely long development time and changes its had since it was Versus XIII harmed FF XV.

This, not to mention it has a lot of design choices that have angered/confused/alienated a lot fans (character designs, no female characters, no turn based, etc). Personally, I do not mind that.

At this point it is no longer about the hype. The only way this game can be good is by actually being good. And hype or not, that will ultimately be entirely up to the game.

 

[jett]

FFXV harms itself, doesn't need anyone else to do it.

 

[Sumio Mondo]

No, the extremely long development time and changes its had since it was Versus XIII harmed FF XV.

No. Two poor publically available demos, 10 years of development delays and awful E3 showings have harmed it.

I'd also add the awful demos have also harmed it (with bad combat).

Yuuuup. That pretty much covers it. Now, to depart before the defence force arrives.

 

[QuantumBro]

I think it's more that its been in development for 10ish years and everyone's moved on.

For me personally: I haven't enjoyed combat in either demo and (from what I've seen) it looks very basic. My expectations are pretty low just cause I have a feeling it'll be a pretty average game. If it turns out great, that's awesome. If it turns out bad, oh well there are other games.

I don't know if I'd say overload. I can't really think of any AAA JRPG on PS4.

Disgaea 5 has AAA sprites.

 

[BocoDragon]

There's an overload?

Maybe.... compared to the drought of last generation. Because otherwise this is back to the business as usual of the late 90s/early 2000s.

I'm gonna say nope, jRPG overload hasn't harmed it. FF occupies a larger mindshare in the gaming industry than just being a jRPG for jRPG fans.

 

[Zenlightened]

The bad taste left by XIII is doing severe harm. The fact it's been so long and the last thing people remember them making is the lowest point in the series is going to stick in some craws.

The large amount of JRPGs coming can potentially hurt FFXV, but I think it may reinvigorate mainstream interest in the genre (a definite boon).

The biggest harm to FFXV is the weight of expectations riding on it. SE needs it to be successful, we need it to be good. If the game is disappointing in any way it may crush the franchise.

That's all doom and gloom though, it'll probably be fine.

 

[Ray Down]

I don't know if I'd say overload. I can't really think of any AAA JRPG on PS4.

This, XV is the first AAA JRPG to come out. None of those games are actively affecting it.

 

[Mesoian]

With:
Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE
Star Ocean Integrity and Faithlessness
World of Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy 7 Remake
Kingdom Hearts 3
I am Setsuna
Ni No Kuni 2
Persona 5
Dragon Quest 11
Ys 8
..and over a dozen more it’s easy to feel that Final Fantasy 15's hype has been diminished. I've been following this game since it was revealed as Final Fantasy Verses 13. The reveal as FF15 made it one of my most anticipated games...but now I feel like I'm losing interest.

The Uncovered event shed a lot of light on this game but I feel a little underwhelmed with what I've personally experienced when compared to other RPGs like Tokyo Mirage Sessions. For one, I'm still a little uncertain on the combat. In both Episode Duscae and the Platinum demo there's certainly a lack of polish, though that’s to be expected from such early demonstrations. I feel as if other RPGs are overshadowing FFXV, even World of Final Fantasy seems to be a more polished product.

I really do hope Final Fantasy XV defies all expectations when it releases but for now I have way more hope in Ni No Kuni 2 and Persona 5, I almost feel as if it doesn't matter if FFXV isn't great as there are so many alternatives.

No, because most people haven't/won't play those other games.

FF15 will sell well due to name alone, just like the 13 series did. The question is, will it be good enough to get FF7 like sales?

This, XV is the first AAA JRPG to come out. None of those games are actively affecting it.

Eh.

Star Ocean is out.

::Snerk::

 

[Skilletor]

There were more JRPGs coming out when FF was in its heyday than there are now.

 

[Jonneh3003]

The bad taste left by XIII is doing the most harm. The fact it's been so long and the last thing people remember them making is the lowest point in the series is going to stick in some craws.

The large amount of JRPGs coming can potentially hurt FFXV, but I think it may reinvigorate mainstream interest in the genre (a definite boon).

The biggest harm to FFXV is the weight of expectations riding on it. SE needs it to be successful, we need it to be good. If the game is disappointing in any way it may crush the franchise.

That's all doom and gloom though, it'll probably be fine.

I don't think it reached a mainstream audience but FF14 is one of the better games in the series.

 

[Anno]

From the perspective of someone who's not really into JRPGs, I would say that I've only heard of most of that list in passing. Meanwhile I've seen plenty of FFXV, and think it looks pretty bad on its own merit.

 

[Strangelove77]

No. There used to be more high profile jrpgs during previous generations but FF always stood above them.
Main FF games releasing used to be an event and every other jrpg could fuck off.
Now FF just kind of blends with everything else. It's their own fault.

That demo sure as hell didn't help either.

 

[wmlk]

No, don't see that at all. FFXV is a huge AAA release that's gonna get more attention approaching release, and it isn't conventional like other JRPGs for it to be overshadowed by them.

 

[NinjaCoachZ]

There's a lingering sense of "let's just get it over with" but there's virtually no question that FFXV will outsell all of those games except MAYBE the FFVII remake, and it's pretty likely going to get a good reception. The vast majority of the gaming public is unaware of these other games, but very likely aware of and looking forward to FFXV. Plus there's still the core FF audience which has stayed pretty strong. Let me put it this way, away from NeoGAF, this wouldn't be a question. Even the Persona 5 vs FFXV rivalry which comes up a lot in hardcore communities is totally one-sided anywhere else.

I will say though that World and the FFVII remake excite me a lot more than XV does. So whether us enthusiasts personally enjoy XV as much as these other games, that's where the debate comes in, and it's good for us as players to have plenty of options. But otherwise, to the general public those other games are barely a dent.

If anyone finds other games more appealing than XV, then it's probably just that they weren't that interested in XV.

 

[Zenlightened]

I don't think it reached a mainstream audience but FF14 is one of the better games in the series.

You're 100% absolute right. FFXIV is brilliant. I do, however, see it more of a greatest hits MMO. For the sake of conversation I didn't include it. If I were to include it I would definitely say it will help FFXV. On the same side of that coin, a lot of people playing FFXIV will probably play XV regardless of if it's good or not.

 

[DemiMatt]

I've spent a 3rd of my life waiting for this game, I think that is what harmed it.

 

[casey_contra]

Misread as "overlord" and was wondering who this mystical JRPG gatekeeper was.

I don't think it'll hurt it from a sales perspective, but maybe from a review perspective - a lot more to be compared to.

 

[UpDownLeftRight]

Aren't most of those games unreleased? To further that aren't they also going to still be unreleased when FFXV lands? I'm still waiting on a JRPG this year and unless I've got my dates wrong FFXV is the first one out from that list, any of the recently released ones sucked and I haven't enjoyed one since Ni No Kuni which was massively flawed too. I expect XV to be pretty damn great in general compared to the recent offerings personally, so it's far from damaged the hype for me. I'm expecting a good few on that list to be pretty awful too anyway, SO being a major candidate.

Edit: I forgot SO is out soon so that ones definitely first to release off that list, but I doubt it will harm FFXV.

 

[pablito]

It feels like any hype deflating of FFXV is done by FFXV's own hands. E3 showing, Platinum demo, uncertainty of the performance and if the gameplay is going to be good are all worrying things to people.

I'm personally hyped as fuck for it. Always have been.

 

[Ray Down]

Hell the biggest JRPGs release on the PS4 are FF14, FFX and FF7 port.

 

[KyanMehwulfe]

I can't stand the art style of basically all of those except for the other FF so for me it's a no.

FF has a different appeal to a lot of gamers than most of the cartoon JRPGs that release.

 

[Mega]

I'd firmly say no because a lot of people who don't play JRPGs are onboard solely for a new FF.

 

[DeSolos]

It's unrelated.

FFXV just plain has not been marketed well at all. Ideally this is because they're prioritizing the development of the game over making sure there are polished things to show to the public throughout the dev cycle.

It wouldn't be so bad if they had at least one coherent explanation, through trailers, etc. of what the game is. The Uncovered trailer kinda went there a little, but at E3 it was back to jump cuts and teasing.

(not even going to get into their desperate push for mainstream appeal: ie; Afrojack, the star studded movie,etc.)

 

[Jonneh3003]

Aren't most of those games unreleased? To further that aren't they also going to still be unreleased when FFXV lands? I'm still waiting on a JRPG this year and unless I've got my dates wrong FFXV is the first one out from that list, any of the recently released ones sucked and I haven't enjoyed one since Ni No Kuni which was massively flawed too. I expect XV to be pretty damn great in general compared to the recent offerings personally, so it's far from damaged the hype for me. I'm expecting a good few on that list to be pretty awful too anyway, SO being a major candidate.

Tokyo Mirage Sessions literally came out a few days ago and its one of the best JRPG's I've played in a long time, Star Ocean also came out but it hasn't been received all that well.

 

[Lactose_Intolerant]

Seeing FFXV in action has dampened the hype. Has nothing to do with other games

 

[kewlmyc]

No because the mass audience is only really going to care about FFXV (maybe), FFVII remake, and KHIII.

Persona 5 will most likely be great and do good numbers, but it's still niche. It's most recent mainline installment was on the Vita ffs.

Ni no Kuni 2 might do well, but not enough to harm SE's big 3 JRPGs.

The rest are so niche, I shouldn't have to explain why they won't affect FFXV.

As for FFVII remake and KHIII, neither have dates, so they shouldn't affect a game coming out this year.

 

[artsi]

Final Fantasy is Final Fantasy, it will sell.

 

[Chase17]

There can never be enough JRPGs.

Although after playing the platinum demo and what else I've seen of the game I can't say I'm terribly excited about FFXV. Ace Attorney (not a JRPG of course) and Dragon Quest 7 will certainly take a higher priority in September for me. That said if the game gets good reviews/user feedback I may be tempted to play it by the holidays.

 

[xaosslug]

did the game release and I missed something? What's harmed what? LOL Even if you've 'lost interest' I'm sure you'll still keep your pre-order/buy it. And once the marketing/hype machine starts... peeps will get back on board.

 

[UpDownLeftRight]

Tokyo Mirage Sessions literally came out a few days ago and its one of the best JRPG's I've played in a long time, Star Ocean also came out but it hasn't been received all that well.

Then I definitely need to check that game out, I'd not even heard of it until now. Also just realized SO will be releasing soon, and has already released in the US but yeah, my expectations were tempered. I'll probably pick it up regardless since I'm a sucker for JRPG's and they need to be pretty damned awful to turn me away completely.

 

[Dangansona]

No because the mass audience is only really going to care about FFXV (maybe), FFVII remake, and KHIII.

Persona 5 will most likely be great and do good numbers, but it's still niche. It's most recent mainline installment was on the Vita ffs.

Ni no Kuni 2 might do well, but not enough to harm SE's big 3 JRPGs.

The rest are so niche, I shouldn't have to explain why they won't affect FFXV.

As for FFVII remake and KHIII, neither have dates, so they shouldn't affect a game coming out this year.

I think you are underestimating how well Persona 5 could do.

 

[Neoleo2143]

What's that line in Star Wars Episode 3 Where Anakin Accuses Obi-wan? Cause it works perfectly here lol.

 

[Jonneh3003]

did the game release and I missed something? What's harmed what? LOL Even if you've 'lost interest' I'm sure you'll still keep your pre-order/buy it. And once the marketing/hype machine starts... peeps will get back on board.

Of course I'll buy it, I just have higher expecations from other JRPGs, even Pokemon looks more appealing than ever.

 

[Jobbs]

I'm sure I've been beaten one hundred times but what's harming the game is that it's Terrible and the demos were tragically bad

 

[ethomaz]

FFXV did that to itself with long development, unstable team, bad presentation and terrible combat system.

 

[Hades Hotgun]

There's an overload?

Maybe.... compared to the drought of last generation. Because otherwise this is back to the business as usual of the late 90s/early 2000s.

I'm gonna say nope, jRPG overload hasn't harmed it. FF occupies a larger mindshare in the gaming industry than just being a jRPG for jRPG fans.

My thoughts exactly. I was disappointed at the lack of console JRPGs last gen, whereas this seems like something of a return to form. Hopefully it will prove a sustained return rather than a momentary burst.

Honestly, Final Fantasy is not going to be impacted by what negative things folks post on NeoGAF. If it fails, then it will be on its own merit.