Picked up a KS8000. Does anyone have any suggestions for calibration?
On the ks8000 you cant view hdr content in game mode, it automatically switches to movie when it detects hdr content. Games don't really need HDR in my opinion though.Thank you man. That's a relief to hear.
Just need that Xone S now.
And thanks to Kyoufu and Caayn too. This community is really awesome to have because these sets are really expensive and complicated and your knowledge is great to have.
On the ks8000 you cant view hdr content in game mode, it automatically switches to movie when it detects hdr content. Games don't really need HDR in my opinion though.
Yes, I own the tv.Did you test this yourself? Rtings and Digitalfernsehen.de say game mode can be enabled for HDR sources.
I have one single dead pixel in a 6 month old vizio 43" lcd tv. Vizio won't cover one single dead pixel, tech support said I have to have 5 or more before they can warrant a repair. Does this sound accurate? are dead pixels in lcds common?
I'm deciding between the same two models as well.Is the only difference between the Vizio M and P series the number of active LED zones? I'm leaning toward the M because it offers 120Hz in 50 inches.
I have one single dead pixel in a 6 month old vizio 43" lcd tv. Vizio won't cover one single dead pixel, tech support said I have to have 5 or more before they can warrant a repair. Does this sound accurate? are dead pixels in lcds common?
Is the only difference between the Vizio M and P series the number of active LED zones? I'm leaning toward the M because it offers 120Hz in 50 inches.
I'm deciding between the same two models as well.
M series has HDR, P series has HDR plus "wide color gamut."
Not sure what exactly that means and without being able to see the same content on both TVs side by side it's hard to tell how big a difference it makes, but the HDR demo I saw on a P series looked pretty incredible.
I haven't been able to find any reviews of the 2016 M series. How could it support HDR if it's only 8-bit?I read a review saying to be wary of the M series since it's 8-bit instead of 10-bit or 12-bit if I'm not mistaken. Apparently that makes HDR content look better. I'll try to find the link.
Edit: P series is 10-bit by the way.
I haven't been able to find any reviews of the 2016 M series. How could it support HDR if it's only 8-bit?
I was also under the impression that the P series was 12 bit.
I thought this statement was a little funny. RTings has been dropping the ball on some things lately. I'm not quite understanding why.Been reading reviews on the Vizio P-series. Two reviews in particular pointed out that while the tv accepts a 4:4:4 signal @4K the tv only displays 4:2:2. This makes a difference to me at least when used for PC gaming.
I thought this statement was a little funny. RTings has been dropping the ball on some things lately. I'm not quite understanding why.
Leave it up to AVSForum to debunk this.
And SamuraiG0SU, I've just been able to do what you do to get 4K videos. I wish there was a way to filter them out somehow, too.
That's what the guy was complaining about, the fact that it wasn't true HDR. I'm still trying to find that link.
http://www.cnet.com/products/vizio-m-series-2016/
This isn't the link I was referring to, but touches on the issue as well.
Bit the bullet on a LG 65E6P. Got it for $4600 after taxes from Amazon prime through the warehouse deals (normally $6000 plus tax so about $1800 cheaper than normal). Figuring the better speakers and picture is worth it over the KS9000.
Description says "small scratches, less than 1/4" x 1/4" on top and back of item" Nothing on the screen. Probably something I can't even notice. We'll see on the 23rd lol.
Made the delivery a week earlier than the KS9000. If this one is in good condition, I'll cancel the samsung.
Yes, but the software bug van be easily fixed via firmware updates. The P-Series is, what, maybe 3 months old and has seen two firmware updates. Plenty more to go, including the coveted HDR10 update. I just wanted to make sure your incorrect blanket statement doesn't negatively influence anyone from looking into the P-Series.From reading his post he also mentions a software bug. There is more to the story. I hope RTINGS.com revisits this soon.
Yes, but the software bug van be easily fixed via firmware updates. The P-Series is, what, maybe 3 months old and has seen two firmware updates. Plenty more to go, including the coveted HDR10 update. I just wanted to make sure your incorrect blanket statement doesn't negatively influence anyone from looking into the P-Series.
And I wouldn't hedge my bets on RTings revisiting it. The reported that the TV hits ~86% of the DCI-P3 color space, yet Vizio's engineers consistently get 92-93%. When Matt McRae, Vizio's CTO, reached out to them to see learn more about their testing methods and how they got number, he went unanswered. And that was easily two months ago.
I value RTings, but lately I've found them to be sloppy.
Just speaking for the 55E6 (And hoping you won't have any problems with the same unit in 65): This is as good as it gets right now. Enjoy it, I love that TV and after weeks of testing fortunately not a single fault in my unit. I haz a happy^^
Nope, 120hz is motion interpolation, it adds in extra frames for smoother motion but adds input lag, as such is a big no no for gaming or movies. It's main use is for sportsAlso does 120hz have any benefit for gaming? I've heard that playing games with steady 30/60fps frame rates in 120hz mode makes them feel a lot smoother, as if they are running at a higher fps. True or bs?
That's an odd definition of what a personal attack is.Whoa there. I was citing exactly what I read. No need to try to attack there or take it personal.
Vizio P-Series or the lesser M-Series. However, it's important know what size you're aiming for.What are the recommendations for a sub-$1000 or near $1000 4K gaming TV? Bright picture quality is a big plus for me.
Sony 65ZD9 supposedly being announced very soon. Apparently an OLED killer.
Supposedly stacked dual LCD panels, with 2nd panel as backlight only. ~1000 zones, up to 4000 nits at max capacity (4x samsung KS9800). No Blooming, OLED level blacks with LED brightness. According to some posts on AVS at least.
Was going to buy a Samsung KS9800 for gaming, but might hold off now and see what happens with thi
Sony 65ZD9 supposedly being announced very soon. Apparently an OLED killer.
Supposedly stacked dual LCD panels, with 2nd panel as backlight only. ~1000 zones, up to 4000 nits at max capacity (4x samsung KS9800). No Blooming, OLED level blacks with LED brightness. According to some posts on AVS at least.
Was going to buy a Samsung KS9800 for gaming, but might hold off now and see what happens with thi
Supposedly price tag should be around current OLEDs like the E6 or maybe even C6. Not too bad if it really is an Oled killer. A few Euro sites already have listings for 3500-4000 eurothe price tag on that thing, if it's real, and with those specs, will be insane
Sony 65ZD9 supposedly being announced very soon. Apparently an OLED killer.
Supposedly stacked dual LCD panels, with 2nd panel as backlight only. ~1000 zones, up to 4000 nits at max capacity (4x samsung KS9800). No Blooming, OLED level blacks with LED brightness. According to some posts on AVS at least.
Was going to buy a Samsung KS9800 for gaming, but might hold off now and see what happens with thi
Sony 65ZD9 supposedly being announced very soon. Apparently an OLED killer.
Supposedly stacked dual LCD panels, with 2nd panel as backlight only. ~1000 zones, up to 4000 nits at max capacity (4x samsung KS9800). No Blooming, OLED level blacks with LED brightness. According to some posts on AVS at least.
Sony doing something crazy things as always lolSony 65ZD9 supposedly being announced very soon. Apparently an OLED killer.
Supposedly stacked dual LCD panels, with 2nd panel as backlight only. ~1000 zones, up to 4000 nits at max capacity (4x samsung KS9800). No Blooming, OLED level blacks with LED brightness. According to some posts on AVS at least.
Was going to buy a Samsung KS9800 for gaming, but might hold off now and see what happens with thi
Yeah, 65X930D is like 50ms. GrossI hope Sony is smart enough to improve input lag on whatever that OLED killer is compared to their current TVs. Major deal breaker.
Does anybody else have the Sony X850D SUHD TV? I've got a deal on either the 55 or 65 inch. $1,115 for the 55" or $1,600 for the 65". Would you guys recommend this TV? It seems really solid and this seems like a great deal.
Yeah, 65X930D is like 50ms. Gross
Eh, doesn't look legit.
There are plenty of reviews that say otherwise.That's not true at all. The X930D is 36ms in game mode.
source: http://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.php?subaction=showfull&id=1461823563#4
Yes, but both of those articles pre-date the one I linked, so either input lag could have improved in that time via a firmware update, or more likely those sites had trouble taking the measurement. The article I linked explained it's measurement, citing that other reviewers had trouble. And after reading the hdtv test, it seems they definitely did, does this sound like they got an accurate measurement?There are plenty of reviews that say otherwise.
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/kd65xd9305-201604034267.htm
http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x930d
Just do a google search for "X930D input lag" and you'll find more.
Placing our Leo Bodnar input lag tester on the middle flashing white box on the screen of the KD-65XD9305, we encountered a weird phenomenon we haven’t seen before. In [Game] and [Graphic] modes, the returned figure would slowly increase from 51ms to 70ms, then quickly drop back to 51ms before repeating the cycle. The same behaviour was observed in all other presets: for example, in [Cinema pro] mode the lag times would yo-yo between 78ms and 94ms.
We know that others have had issues with input lag on XD93, even failed to measure it with a meter, but our Leo Bodnar gave us no trouble. We measured a decent 36 ms input lag in the game mode, which means that XD93 is a good choice for game console use.
Read more at http://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.php?subaction=showfull&id=1461823563#4#jwR359fxmEPmcR5W.99
It's been heavily rumoured for a long time, and a prototype was shown at CES, there's an image floating around with their current lineup, with a spot for the ZD9 at the top of their range which seems pretty legit, and a lot of people in the know seem very excited about it, so it seems pretty legit...
One way to clear this up would be to message Rtings and ask if they could redo the test while mentioning this other result. They corrected stuff in the past.Yes, but both of those articles pre-date the one I linked, so either input lag could have improved in that time via a firmware update, or more likely those sites had trouble taking the measurement. The article I linked explained it's measurement, citing that other reviewers had trouble. And after reading the hdtv test, it seems they definitely did, does this sound like they got an accurate measurement?
Compared to the article I linked
Yeah people on AVS should relax a bit. There's no such a thing as a OLED killer, as much as they seem to like this word, because the tech is pretty new and it will always improve with new gens. I don't think this Sony will be even as good as the E6, let alone future OLEDs, because even with all those things there are some flaws in the LED tech that will still be there, no matter what you do. And no, it won't have black levels on par with a tech that TURNS OFF pixels to display a black image, not even with 1000 local dimming zones.Sony 65ZD9 supposedly being announced very soon. Apparently an OLED killer.
Supposedly stacked dual LCD panels, with 2nd panel as backlight only. ~1000 zones, up to 4000 nits at max capacity (4x samsung KS9800). No Blooming, OLED level blacks with LED brightness. According to some posts on AVS at least.
Was going to buy a Samsung KS9800 for gaming, but might hold off now and see what happens with thi
Vizio P-Series or the lesser M-Series. However, it's important know what size you're aiming for.