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[OCD Guy]

The irony of a grammatical error while calling out other people's reading skills aside

I noticed that too.

Oh no grammatical errors from a non english person on his phone the horror. Imma bail outta this thread.

Once again have fun with your wich hunt

You shouldn't be so defensive. You're coming across like a defense force for No Man's Sky and Sean Murray.

You're absolutely right that people will always find something to complain about, and it was obvious that this game was going to be a prime target for many people. The next game to be under the crossfire will be The Last Guardian. I predict many "I waited all this time for this shit" "the game looks like a shit PS3 game" "This game should have stayed buried" posts.

Here let me spell it out for you again then so you can play otger games you actually enjoy instead of trying to turn a game into something that its not and getting angry over it.

NO MAN SKY IS NOT A MULTIPLAYER GAME. IT WILL NEVER BE ONE.

Holy shit some of yall are seriously crazy. Wtf is wrong with some of you? Yall dont even have the game and all you do is bitch bitch bitch, you havent even experienced how amazing this game is.

Go play a damn game or something instead of making up shit about "THEY LIED TO US" Yall sound like some babies.

Also without causing offence you mention people getting angry, but ironically your posts read as though you're the one actually getting really angry, and having a tantrum like a baby.

I honestly wouldn't let other people's opinions on a game get to you so much.

I apologise in advance if I've misread your posts, I'm just stating how they come across.

 

[shandy706]

When someone asks you "Will you be able to play with your friends?" and you say "Yes", that's kind of the idea people are going to get.

I can play every game that has ever released with my friends

X-D

They've also said explicitly on multiple occasions that this is a multiplayer game.

Hey, multiple people are playing it.



Ok....I'll stop now, lol.

 

[Korezo]

Lol damn Gog.com throwing some subtle shade here:

How do gog online games work? Can you upload discoveries and see other peoples discoveries with gog version?

 

[CoolOff]

Right, which doesnt actually mean that its possible for that to happen though.

Do you work for the Trump campaign?

It being a hypothetical "sure if we put the feature in our game" doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

 

[KoopaTheCasual]

He lied? Maybe the feature was there and didnt make it. You know like a million other games have shit that doesnt make it.

Remember when Bioshock Infinite showed gameplay trailers that looked like very cool encounters but in the full game all you got were waves of enemies? Mechanics that were just gone?

Where was the outrage for that? Oh right there wasnt. I didnt see people calling for Ken Levines head on a pike then.

So your whole point is: stop being mean to this video game that I like!

And are you serious? Bioshock Infinite is still ripped to pieces to this day for its stripped content and underwhelming value.

You've derailed the purpose of this thread for absolutely no reason, simply because you're upset that people have legitimate grievances.

 

[GinoFelino]

I remember when people weren't just repeating the same shit over and over, even though back then it was already silly.

Must have been around page 15..?

 

[molnizzle]

Depends on the context of the game. It was never billed as a big part of NMS.

But it's a part that everyone was wondering about and Hello Games was asked about point blank literally every single time they were interviewed.

 

[Tagyhag]

Right, which doesnt actually mean that its possible for that to happen though.

yall made a good little forced narrative here and a fun little wich hunt. good luck

I don't think you understand why people want an answer...

 

[cackhyena]

Oh no grammatical errors from a non english person on his phone the horror. Imma bail outta this thread.

Once again have fun with your wich hunt

 

[Makai]

A minor feature was dropped during the lengthy development of a game. Internet explodes.

I wish I was surprised.

My friend and I were planning to travel towards each other until we met up

 

[AndrewDean84xX]

So did Sean knowingly lie when he said we can play with friends, or did he actually believe we would be able to, when he said it?

 

[ClosingADoor]

How do gog online games work? Can you upload discoveries and see other peoples discoveries with gog version?

Yes, of course. That data goes through the servers of the game. GOG is just a download platform.

So did Sean knowingly lie when he said we can play with friends, or did he actually believe we would be able to, when he said it?

We simply don't know.

 

[Smooth Operator]

Oh no grammatical errors from a non english person on his phone the horror. Imma bail outta this thread.

Once again have fun with your wich hunt

bye

 

[Kssio_Aug]

Oh no grammatical errors from a non english person on his phone the horror. Imma bail outta this thread.

Once again have fun with your wich hunt

Lol, what the...

It seems you're the one in a crusade here.

 

[nynt9]

So did Sean knowingly lie when he said we can play with friends, or did he actually believe we would be able to, when he said it?

If you want to extend goodwill to them despite them being mum on it currently while people are demanding answers, you can choose to assume that when they said those things at that time they intended to implement multiplayer, but somehow they weren't able to, and conveniently they never bothered to clarify when they didn't.

 

[DOWN]

So did Sean knowingly lie when he said we can play with friends, or did he actually believe we would be able to, when he said it?

He won't say, sadly. If it was cut, he should have said it

 

[Tagyhag]

So did Sean knowingly lie when he said we can play with friends, or did he actually believe we would be able to, when he said it?

We have no idea. That's the beauty of this thread lol.

My money is on it actually being a feature that they were working on, but either servers or technical issues got in the way.

We probably won't know until the game sells a bit more though.

 

[CraigerGamer]

Sean is part of the pantheon now

How in the world can you even put Sean in that category? This whole "controversy" has gone on way too long and gone way too far.

 

[Bytes]

Also your quote (if that's what actually said) doesn't really help because unless he gave specifics, which I'm gonna guess he didn't xD, means his statement on what constitutes essential cooperation is open to interoperation.

Why would you leave a feature of your game open to interpretation?

And yes, there is a lot of spinning going on. Such as:

"It says single player on the box!" (never mind that the online sticker is covered up)

"He clarified that it was a single player game!" (he only did that mere hours before release)

"I can't believe you guys thought you could play with your friends!" (yeah, because he said so)

"He was being vague, you guys!" (well.......why?)

"He always downplayed the multiplayer aspect!" (increasingly as time went on, yes........so again, why?)

 

[KoopaTheCasual]

Right, which doesnt actually mean that its possible for that to happen though.

yall made a good little forced narrative here and a fun little wich hunt. good luck

Holy shit I think this takes the cake for mental gymnastics in this 100+ page thread.

This is better than the "feel of meeting" guy.

 

[Zomba13]

So did Sean knowingly lie when he said we can play with friends, or did he actually believe we would be able to, when he said it?

Obviously he was speaking hypothetically as in "oh yeah, sure you can do that... if we actually coded it into the game. You could also fly on an elephant while making love to Trump but it's a very rare occurrence and might never happen. Becaue that won't make it in either"

 

[Polk]

A minor feature was dropped during the lengthy development of a game. Internet explodes.

I wish I was surprised.

I don't think interacting with other people qualifies as minor feature.

 

[BraXzy]

People are still defending the point that Sean never confirmed it? Can that video at the top of this page go into the OP...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVrDaudzn64

 

[Ninja Scooter]

They've also said explicitly on multiple occasions that this is a multiplayer game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE0nuW-mQ8A

In that multiple people can play it. Check mate.

 

[Psoelberg]

Sean is part of the pantheon now

Jesus Christ, have some fucking respect. It has been a few days and there's one element to the game that we are not sure about and you guys are already starting this and making these kind of comparisons.

It's moments like these that I long for a new version of Neogaf - a place where we can discuss games in a calm and rational manner, under a united banner.

And even though we may disagree we can still discuss without hyperboles, memes and hysterical screams.

I wish....

 

[Protome]

I don't think interacting with other people qualifies as minor feature.

They always talked about it as though it was. Why does context not exist for so many people in this thread?

 

[Baloonatic]

Right, which doesnt actually mean that its possible for that to happen though.

yall made a good little forced narrative here and a fun little wich hunt. good luck

So, he was asked straight after that if "you could run into other people, other players". He said "Yes, but the chances of that are incredibly rare."

Like, how you can take that more than one way? Where is the forced narrative?

 

[Zyae]

Haha great fucking argument. Stay mad and salty as fuck over NOTHING then.

Sean and Hello Games explicitly said on many occasions : THIS IS NOT A MULTIPLAYER GAME.

Are you willfully ignorant to what has been posted in this thread or is it an accident?

 

[Zomba13]

People are still defending the point that Sean never confirmed it? Can that video at the top of this page go into the OP...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVrDaudzn64

No matter how many times that (or any of the other million billion clips of him talking about players meeting) people will spin it to mean "well yeah, they met on PSN or Reddit after going to the same planet!".

So, he was asked straight after that if "you could run into other people, other players". He said "Yes, but the chances of that are incredibly rare."

Like, how you can take that more than one way? Where is the forced narrative?

Again, he obviously meant that you, personally, can literally run into another player of the game, because it's a feature of real life (collision). You just need to track each other down and the game is the starting point! Obviously! I don't know how you can read it any other way to be fair.

 

[maabus1999]

Honestly surprised yet no one is challenging the 18 Quintillion number since there have been multiple instances of two or even in one case I read three players reaching the same planet (the two streamers trying to meet up found a planet named by a third player). It would be something easy to exaggerate from an algorithm standpoint but logistically not so much.

 

[Barkley's Justice]

"Controversy"

 

[The Jackdog]

The way some people are jumping over themselves to somehow get to the conclusion that sean murray has NEVER even hinted at multiplayer is trump supporter esque.

It sounds the exact same as them spinning something he said to mean something completely different and innocent, just to protect their baby who has zero alligence to them.

 

[LyleLanley]

Perhaps the real multiplayer was within us the whole time.

 

[ClosingADoor]

They always talked about it as though it was. Why does context not exist for so many people in this thread?

They talked about it like it would be a very rare occurrence, but that it could happen. So if you made the effort then you could meet up with a friend after a long journey and careful planning. I have seen multiple people talk about this before release.

The fact that you could run into someone, even though the chances are very small, would be a very nice thing for the community and an amazing experience if it happened to someone.

The lack of it doesn't break the game or make it a bad game. But one of the features that would make it feel more alive and that actual other people are also out there in that same universe would have been great.

 

[megasus]

This whole situation reminds me of when Blizzard announced Karabor would not function as a capital city in Warlords of Draenor. People lost their minds over it, talking about broken promises, cut content etc. Now all this was months before the expansion even launched.

With NMS i'm not surprised that we're seeing similar reactions, especially since they didn't communicate this change pre launch.

 

[Darkwater]

He lied? Maybe the feature was there and didnt make it. You know like a million other games have shit that doesnt make it.

Do me a favor. Read the Kotaku article again. Take a look at the quote and tell me again that he didn't lie.

Remember when Bioshock Infinite showed gameplay trailers that looked like very cool encounters but in the full game all you got were waves of enemies? Mechanics that were just gone?

Where was the outrage for that? Oh right there wasnt. I didnt see people calling for Ken Levines head on a pike then.

"Ken Levine got away with misrepresenting his game, so Sean Murray should as well!"

Hey I'm not gonna reply anymore. Replying in the first place was a mistake. It's clear that a lot of people here are believing what they want to believe and they will not be dissuaded, no matter how compelling the evidence. While I feel that makes you guys a bunch of gullible, overenthusiastic, unrealistic money-dispensors, I think I would be just as big a fool to debate you guys. Facts, logic and reason are treated as irrelevant here and that makes the debate futile and infinite. This thread is an M.C. Escher painting.

But, like Escher's works, they're very nice to look at.

 

[LostMyNarbles]

People are still defending the point that Sean never confirmed it? Can that video at the top of this page go into the OP...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVrDaudzn64

Haha this was hilarious.

 

[SoulUnison]

Haha great fucking argument. Stay mad and salty as fuck over NOTHING then.

Sean and Hello Games explicitly said on many occasions : THIS IS NOT A MULTIPLAYER GAME.

Yeah, and on just as many occasions they stated there were multiplayer features. Sean constantly talked about what a "wow" moment it would be the first time two players "met" and could see each other's character models.

When directly asked "Can we play with our friends?" he directly answered "Yes."

Why are you even in this topic if all you're going to do is ignore actual statements and interviews and call people names for believing what they were told?

 

[Zomba13]

Honestly surprised yet no one is challenging the 18 Quintillion number since there have been multiple instances of two or even in one case I read three players reaching the same planet (the two streamers trying to meet up found a planet named by a third player). It would be something easy to exaggerate from an algorithm standpoint but logistically not so much.

I think some of that comes from starting players either at a certain "side" or along the outer rim. So you go from 18 quintillion to a far lower number because no one will start a system away from the galactic centre, I think you all start like 17 million light years away? Or something? I dunno, again, PC here, need to wait 26 more hours.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Honestly surprised yet no one is challenging the 18 Quintillion number since there have been multiple instances of two or even in one case I read three players reaching the same planet (the two streamers trying to meet up found a planet named by a third player). It would be something easy to exaggerate from an algorithm standpoint but logistically not so much.

The probability will be higher since everyone starts in the same galaxy out of a shit-ton of galaxies out on the rim. I am sure there will be a hiccup here and there on spawning. It is maths in a 64 integer.

I have not seen 'multiple instances', only seen it reported once on here.

This thread going to spawn a witch-hunt for every little detail now? People are trying that in the review thread, 'I have not seen the brontosaurus or giant snake, therefore it does not exist.'

 

[MaDKaT]

Honestly surprised yet no one is challenging the 18 Quintillion number since there have been multiple instances of two or even in one case I read three players reaching the same planet (the two streamers trying to meet up found a planet named by a third player). It would be something easy to exaggerate from an algorithm standpoint but logistically not so much.

Honestly, that really doesnt mean anything. Kind of like 1 person can win a lottery or 10 people can. We just dont know how the algorithm is setup to distribute people and their starting planet. Could just as likely be that they tweaked the code to group people closer together to give you more of a sense that there are others.

 

[Kinyou]

Right, which doesnt actually mean that its possible for that to happen though.

yall made a good little forced narrative here and a fun little wich hunt. good luck

So why even talk about it at Colbert? You're trying way too hard

 

[Pop]

No matter how many times that (or any of the other million billion clips of him talking about players meeting) people will spin it to mean "well yeah, they met on PSN or Reddit after going to the same planet!".

https://youtu.be/1ORFgfhj_hM

2:40 and 4:00 Whatcha say dawg?

This is the multiplayer. Video from March, not a year old+

You might get lucky and see someone for a second. Servers still toast though

 

[Savantcore]

Perhaps the real multiplayer was within us the whole time.

Ellie, we really are No Man's Sky

 

[Makai]

They always talked about it as though it was. Why does context not exist for so many people in this thread?

It wasn't minor for me

 

[Animation-Imp]

This is a much better YouTube video to reference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVrDaudzn64

Not only does it showcase many, many more times where Sean said definitively that there is multiplayer, but around 10 seconds in he even refers to cooperation with other players as necessary - an unequivocal statement that means multiplayer was initially touted as being far more integral to the game.

And then the video contrasts with Sean's statement on the day before release "clarifying" that this is a single player game in what is clearly a severe backtrack from his previous statements.

There is no way to spin this as not lying, try as hard as you might.

Check how many times he said "conceptually"...
The game was in very early stages at those moments.
He has been clear, even two days before release.
I really feel this is getting out of hand.

We have a small team here who have created a very unique experience.
It's not perfect, but the flaws are easily outshined by the strong points.

Comparing him to Molyneux is just wrong.
Almost everything he said it would be is in the game.
The size, the exploration, the factions, the spaceships, etc...

The cooperation he's talking about is community based.
He referred to that in several interviews. Communities working together to get a grasp on the games systems and that is in fact happening since before release.

I feel a bit ashamed by these reactions.
Here we have a small devteam, who have worked their asses of the last couple of years to create a digital universe you can play around in. And some of you would nail him to the cross for a couple of media interviews given in early stages of development.

Some of you should really stop and think a moment. This is a person, a passionate person. Who has logged inhuman workhours for the last couple of weeks to get this thing ready for launch. Who just released his baby into the wild. Does he really deserve all this crap?

Again I'm a bit disgusted and ashamed.

 

[Protome]

They talked about it like it would be a very rare occurrence, but that it could happen. So if you made the effort then you could meet up with a friend after a long journey and careful planning. I have seen multiple people talk about this before release.

The fact that you could run into someone, even though the chances are very small, would be a very nice thing for the community and an amazing experience if it happened to someone.

The lack of it doesn't break the game or make it a bad game. But one of the features that would make it feel more alive and that actual other people are also out there in that same universe would have been great.

I get that, apologies but that wasn't what my post was about.

It was a minor feature because they talked about it being incredibly rare and/or near impossible. Something barely anyone would encounter and that wasn't a priority for them in development.

 

[Little Mons†er]

Sean is part of the pantheon now

I am deceased

 

[Costia]

Honestly surprised yet no one is challenging the 18 Quintillion number since there have been multiple instances of two or even in one case I read three players reaching the same planet (the two streamers trying to meet up found a planet named by a third player). It would be something easy to exaggerate from an algorithm standpoint but logistically not so much.

It's a pointless number so there is no reason to challenge it.
It's a proceduraly generated game world, for all practical purposes you can assume the number of possible combinations is infinite.
But this information is pointless. You can have 2 billion different planets just by changing their 24bit RGB color. Having a lot of different combinations doesn't need the difference between the combinations is meaningfull.
So challenging the 18 Quintilion number will be pointless since it doesn't mean much anyway.

 

[LeleSocho]

Sean is part of the pantheon now

i love this picture ahahahahah
so well done