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New disappointment discovered : No Man's Sky (CrowbCat)
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Neogaf hypebeastin.
Just imagine you paid $60 for the front row seats to experience everything that is happening outside the game itself.
Now you got your moneys worth :3
ehead
Member
It's Funhaus, a member of Rooster Teeth.
I remember that live podcast well. Spoole, the guy with the red hat, was very doubtful of No Man's Sky. I guess he was kinda right all along.
I think I'm at that point with gaming were I should just buy games over 6 months after release, with the season passes, lies and bugs, it's just not worth paying the release date prices anymore.
But the backlash to NMS is a wonderful thing to follow, I haven't laughed so much in a while.
But the backlash to NMS is a wonderful thing to follow, I haven't laughed so much in a while.
Glass Shark
Banned
I'm guilty of defending this game leading up to release, but now that I've played it I really wonder why so many people are apologizing for clear faults. I'm not saying the game is garbage, but it's much more limited in scope than what was shown off and there were a handful of outright lies about it.
On the most recent podcast, NMS related again at 31:59
https://youtu.be/NEXnv_qEhW8
Around 12 hours or so. I can easily see myself playing this into the 3 figures, just play a couple of hours after work to unwind or when Overwatch/Rocket League start pissing me off.
StereoVsn
Member
What the hell does this have to do with lying about game features? They should have presented the game and the functionality it had vs feeding people bullshit to gain hose extra sales. I mean yeah, BS worked but then don't bring up the "small team" defense.
Again, this is a fully priced retail/digital game for $60 and not Steam EA for $20.
MaximusPayne
Member
Haha...perfect.
Yeah, sorry to single you out.
I meant it more towards other users I saw when the PC version released.
Salvatron
Member
Yeah, I bet you're right. His dodges were a bit... dodgy.
Still having a blast 25 hours (or so) in and havent done any of the "story" stuff...
But I'm wrong. No, Ill admit it, Im happy Im able to enjoy this game but Im kind of wrong for doing so. I dont think its a bad game, just did not live up to promises and expectations, and in many ways the devs mislead the audience to believe that features were there that aren't, and Sean hasn't responded to the public apologizing or clarifying, which is what perturbs me the most.
I wont apologize for liking the game, but I have to say people are right to be pissed. Its pretty clear they did lie (deceive). Even if everything they had promised had been in the game, it still would have been lacking.
Its such a shame because Sean was I guy I wanted to cheer for, and Hello Games I wanted to succeed. But, not like this. This is success at the expense of true artistic pursuit. I dont know whether or not this is wholly political, or a cash grab, or they were just burnt out developing the game, but its pretty clear that it needed more time and absolutely needed to implement everything they talked about.
As it stands, Im probably going to put a few more hours in, get to the center, and get a badass ship and call it quits. I think thats pretty good for a game so im pretty satisfied.
But I'm wrong. No, Ill admit it, Im happy Im able to enjoy this game but Im kind of wrong for doing so. I dont think its a bad game, just did not live up to promises and expectations, and in many ways the devs mislead the audience to believe that features were there that aren't, and Sean hasn't responded to the public apologizing or clarifying, which is what perturbs me the most.
I wont apologize for liking the game, but I have to say people are right to be pissed. Its pretty clear they did lie (deceive). Even if everything they had promised had been in the game, it still would have been lacking.
Its such a shame because Sean was I guy I wanted to cheer for, and Hello Games I wanted to succeed. But, not like this. This is success at the expense of true artistic pursuit. I dont know whether or not this is wholly political, or a cash grab, or they were just burnt out developing the game, but its pretty clear that it needed more time and absolutely needed to implement everything they talked about.
As it stands, Im probably going to put a few more hours in, get to the center, and get a badass ship and call it quits. I think thats pretty good for a game so im pretty satisfied.
DryvBy
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lol no they're not.
If you want to use a word like "usually" you go to where indie cames are primarily and that's the PC. And on PC, they're usually 8-bit roguelikes.
People were pissed off at me for pointing that out. Although they were right that devs should be able to price games at whatever they feel like.
But there's precedence and history behind the pricepoints. There is a reason devs price things the way they should.
Undertale was worth $60 to me (and many others, probably), but Toby Fox didn't sell it for that much because it's an indie and looks like one.
Haha lmao.
Shai-Tan
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yep. I'd like to think Molyneux couldn't get away with his level of hucksterism today but people like me were pointing out that the marketing for this game was a lot like Black & White and Spore which both turned out to be sold on mostly smoke and mirrors; yet for months threads were full of people getting defensive when someone asked "what do you do in this game?" i.e. they're selling it on a tech demo and leading statements about possibilities.
To be fair to Molyneux Fable and Fable II were both decent games but I've never forgot buying Black & White day 1 and being utterly disappointed when the supervised learning AI performed horribly. Then Spore which had the only truly fun part of the game (procedurally animated creature creation) released for free, then it turning out to be a bunch of second rate minigames. Reviewers at least are getting better at responding to hype as reflected in the review scores. Black & White and Spore were both significantly over rated by critics.
I remember watching Jones' rant at last year's E3 and after seeing this one too, I really should see more of angry Jones.
Icyflamez96
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Not quite the case. I don't think the game quite lived up to the vision he has previously expressed for it. The video in the OP shows some examples of what I'm talking about. Though I do feel bad for HG because I don't think they intended to lie, but more they couldn't fully accomplish what they were trying to achieve.
Personally, I'm mainly salty that the colors seem to look more washed out and less vibrant than what was shown in many of the earlier trailers. That fact alone is what's making me wait on this game. I havent seen any planet as visually appealing to me as a lot of the planets shown off pre release. Those would have been nice to explore.
The thing that's still most annoying about this NMS discussion is people who continue to question why people were ever hyped in the first place. A lot of people down and up on the game were hearing the same things, it's just simply that the concept appeals greatly to some, and sounds boring to others. Different things appeal to different people, and going by some posts in this thread, some still don't seem to understand that. And I don't know if many realize this, but a lot of people who had sky high hype for the game based on the reasonable expectation for it are playing and thoroughly enjoying it for what it is, because the concept proved to appeal to them that greatly.
The game at its core does play a lot like how Sean said it would, just at a lower quality level of execution that many would have liked. So it's not too far off base from how I thought the game would play, but there are elements that they clearly failed at achieving/implementing.
Sumio Mondo
Member
GameTrailers/Easy Allies with those truth bombs.
The quote about gathering resources referred to mining, which you can avoid by getting all the stuff you need through trading. You can get additional stuff to trade through combat or salvaging crashed ships. Even just flying around discovering stuff should provide enough income to buy all the fuel you need.
If someone is truly allergic to ever keeping "resources" in their inventory, every point of interest in the game contains boxes with batteries and shielding components which you can use to recharge your life support systems.
Zvonimir Boban
Banned
haha the guy typing in "I paid $60 for this" after the game crashed was great.
Mihos
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Honestly, I like the game. But for me the hook is upgrading myself and my ship. Once I have maxed that out, which will probably be sooner than later, I will be done with it.
Of course I didn't follow any of the build up, so I had no expectation outside of flying around doing space stuff. If I had to choose one thing I dislike, is I expected the first aliens I encountered to give me quests, not just a 1 in 3 chance of picking the right answer. I wanted more of a loot game. I honestly don't care about getting an 'ending' any more than I care about an ending in an MMO... some good story arcs would have been cool and something they could have built off of. I am allied with one faction I think, but I am not really sure how or why that happened. I don't' care about multiplayer either, but if I happened into some dark souls type stuff, that would have been cool also.
I am playing on PC, and really the only technical issue I have is that after about an hour, the game suddenly slows to a crawl and I have to save and relaunch it. I haven't checked to see if it is a memory leak or something like that, it runs fine again after a restart for another hour or so.
screw procedural generated shit, give me purposely designed planets.
That was just a bullet point and marketing stint.
I died at this part:
https://youtu.be/A8P2CZg3sJQ?t=667
When the green player model shows up, I lost it.
https://youtu.be/A8P2CZg3sJQ?t=667
When the green player model shows up, I lost it.
What a very reasonable and agreeable post.
Hitokiri03
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Amazing job from CrowbCat, superb editing.
Mass_Pincup
Banned
I thought it was pretty obvious sarcasm.
Can't be a victim when you're fueling it.
crazyturtle
Member
I'm surprised there wasn't a clip on the monotony of the Atlas interfaces and the fulfilling conclusion
url]https://youtu.be/jQPbcffbQTk?t=30m28s[/url]
StereoVsn
Member
Eh, no, it wasn't obvious considering that many similar posts were posted in all seriousness many times in other threads.
I don't even think it is to be honest. Their content generation systems are quite impressive, if only for the scale that they were shooting for, but I really don't think Hello Games has a good eye for game design.
No way, no freaking way! This can't be real hahahahahaha
TheCanisDirus
Member
Pretty much sums up my feelings 100% save for the last paragraph. I only just ever wanted to explore... and everything just more of the same repeating over and over after 20-40 warps/star systems.
I wish I had the drive.GankzyMcfly
Member
Napalm_Frank
Member
I remember him doing a rant on Her Story back in GT and some minirants on EA E3 this year.
Was he somehow not aware of the game's development? There's no multiplayer at all. He said shit like having to redesign the periodic table to account for how light would refract in the atmosphere. From what I've seen, there's nothing in the game even close to that. He was just throwing shit out there because it sounded good. So much of the stuff is either a fundamental disconnect from the game's development, unlikely for a team of 15, or some convenient fudging, not unlike our friend, Molyneux. Having big dreams /= permission to lie to hundreds of thousands of people to bilk them out of $60.
Holy shit, I thought the GTX 970 and The Order were perfect. This beats them both.
Damn, I love seeing these.
Glass Shark
Banned
If the game was more like what they showed in the trailers, those people would have been right.
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
90% are garbage let's be honest.
WadiumArcadium
Member
I think the game's alright but that was hilarious.
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